Tuesday, February 19, 2013

Independent Litigation Coverage

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Thanks to anon 5:49 AM for the link.
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80 comments:

techguess said...

I always request this...Could someone well versed on the legal wear please transilate the article above....glta

Anonymous said...

wheres the summary judgment motion against adkins that was due today?

nobody12378 said...

We have a greater likelihood of winning in the end but if all avenues of legal maneuvering are employed we could still be two years away from money changing hands and unless revenue picks up significantly we will then incur many months of dilution before the the value of your position can be determined.

Anonymous said...

are you repeating yourself?

Anonymous said...

nob0dy cant trade what a tool

nobody12378 said...

I am not interested in pennies. Play your games, I accumulate wealth.

Anonymous said...

no really you reapeat yourself 15 times in a week

Anonymous said...

More like 15 times a day. Same crap over an over.

nobody12378 said...

If we have not had a Form 8-K filing by April 5, there has been no new financing found within the time period required in the amended Forbearance Agreement. Implications? Could be quite significant if they cannot find a sugar-daddy within the specified time period. Forty-four days and counting.

Anonymous said...

See I didn't bother reading that you keep reposting the same thing. You have anything new to say?

Anonymous said...

he's like a drunk parrot quack whos your sugar daddy quack quack whos your sugar daddy quack quack whos your sugar daddy quack

nobody12378 said...

Reality and truth like life can be really boring but not paying attention is akin to allowing your health to deteriorate and die -- just like your gambit with GERS.

Anonymous said...

no really why do you copy an paste the same thing on 3 or 4 forums over and over daily?

Anonymous said...

Are you old? My grandfather repeats himself because he forgets he tells me the same thing an hour ago.

Anonymous said...

where he went?

nobody12378 said...

I am flattered that you read my missives in so many forums. I do tailor the insights to some degree in each. Thank you for your kind words that stimulate me to be even more effusive as I now know that people are recognizing the importance of the bright lights I place on the horizon to guide their paths.

Anonymous said...

He probably fell asleep while talking. My grandfather does that to.

Anonymous said...

or he died

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Anonymous said...

Which idiot concocted this idea? -> -> That 10,000,000 pounds represents about $900,000 in revenue from this small license -- where is all this revenue going? <- <-

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Dr. Oz said...

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Dr. Oz said...

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Dr. Oz said...


Prevalence:

The prevalence of Narcissistic Personality Disorder is less than 1% of the general population. It is seen in 2% to 16% of psychiatric outpatients. This disorder is more frequent in males (50% to 75%) than females.

Dr. Oz said...

Course:

Narcissistic traits are very common in adolescents, but most adolescents grow out of this behavior. Unfortunately, for some, this narcissistic behavior persists and intensifies into adulthood; thus they become diagnosed with this disorder.

Anonymous said...

thanks Dr oz that's him alright !

nobody12378 said...

10,000,000 pounds equals 1,303,781 gallons of CO (7.67 pounds per gallon). 1,303,781 x $3.06 per gallon (see GPRE latest filing) is $3,989,570 revenue. Best guesses from industry is that the price per gallon of CO will increase to $3.75. That yields an estimate of $4,889,179 revenue. Royalty of 0.20 creates a range of $797,914 to $977,836 for GERS' revenue -- thus the estimate of "about" $900,000. That's what idiot.

nobody12378 said...

it's not bragging if its true, it's only a complex if others are jealous.

Anonymous said...

Why are you importing future price increases into last years price? Last years lowest price was .3 a pound. Your estimate is flawed.

nobody12378 said...

The only thing flawed is your understanding of the process of estimation. Estimates are by their nature variable, that variability needs to be reflected in a range of possible outcomes. As for your 0.3 figure, GPRE our biggest client would disagree completely -- read their filing before creating imaginary misinformation. Your veiled attempt as an apologist to cover for the poor results in the upcoming GERS' 10K have failed miserably.

Slashnuts said...

United Ethanol: Q412 COES .80 Pounds Per Bushel

United Ethanol Q412 Production...

10,226,486 gallons of ethanol

3,652,318 bushels of corn

2,900,238 pounds of oil

As you may recall, United Ethanol extracted at a rate of .68 pounds in Q312. In November, they stated they were extracting an astonishing .95 pounds per bushel at one point. This high level of extraction pushed their average for the quarter from .68 to about .80 pounds. That's an improvement of 18% in just three months.

http://www.unitedethanol.com/images/E0135601/UEFebruary2013NewsletterforWeb.pdf

"Through Dec. 31, United Ethanol produced 42,864,711 gallons of undenatured ethanol, 119,390 tons of dry distiller’s grain, 9,497 tons of wet distiller’s grain, 66,274 tons of liquefied carbon dioxide, and extracted 10,073,661 pounds of corn oil."

“As usual, our main focus at United Ethanol is
steady operations and maximizing yield,” noted
Mike Opdahl, manager of ethanol operations.
“We’re in the process of performing trials with a
product that may allow us to increase our cornoil
production.”

http://greenshift-gers.blogspot.com/2013/02/a-customers-newsletter.html

Here's the highlights from Q312...

"Now, United Ethanol is recovering corn oil at a rate
of .95 pounds per bushel, up from .68 in previous months. “With
tight margins, we continue to work with vendors to assist in price
reductions, and we’re always reviewing opportunities to produce
ethanol in a way that will improve yield,” added Shickles.
“During our fall maintenance shutdown, we completed some
preventative maintenance and inspected equipment that is
always in operation,” commented John Minard, maintenance and
grain handling manager.

Through Sept. 30, United Ethanol produced
32,638,222 gallons of undenatured ethanol. We
also produced 92,350 tons of dry distiller’s grain,
4,562 tons of wet distiller’s grain, 44,461 tons of
liquefi ed carbon dioxide, and extracted 7,173,423
pounds of corn oil."

Good Luck To All!$!$!$!$!$!$

Anonymous said...

What a large conglomerate like gp did late in '12 doesn't translate into what ue did earlier in the year. Gs last filing sais 'The current market price for corn oil is about $2.25 per gallon'. Take your blinders off and read instead of making yourself look foolish.

Anonymous said...

yea dipchit learn how to READ

Anonymous said...

Oh and your 7.6 is refined. Crude is closer to 8. 2.25/8 is .281 a pound. You're .12 off part of the year buddy. It's apparent your imagination is clouded with misinformation.

nobody12378 said...

It seems that I have struck a sensitive nerve with the verifiable data that places the upcoming 10K in a bad light. The number of apologists flocking to surround this disappointment with propaganda is a clear indication of how sensitive the results from the 10K are going to become. This flock is orchestrated and directed, probably by the lead apostle. I will have to dig deeper to shed more light into this necrotic mess.

nobody12378 said...

It seems that I have struck a sensitive nerve on the tip of David vanGriends penis. I apologize for being a moron. I will have to dig deeper into his ass. It will be a mess.

Anonymous said...

As if it isn't bad enough with smallballs12378 making his own bad predictions, now he's back to making predictions and assigning them to others as if the words came from them. I predict smallballs is an A**hole. Oops, not much of a prediction when stating the obvious!

nobody12378 said...

This is no longer a challenge. It is so easy to get these mindless cadets to commit felonious acts that increase the likelihood that they will be jailed. It is like poking a stick at a snake, coil followed by recoil.

Anonymous said...

Actually his estimate went to .49 cents on the high end.

nobody12378 said...

Petal, (Anony 1:28) why are you hiding? G'd this is such great sport.

Anonymous said...

'That yields an estimate of $4,889,179 revenue.' 4.9/10 is .49 Yup good catch. Off by .21. Why are you trying to build up false expectations with fuzzy math?

Anonymous said...

fuzzy math or balls?

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Anonymous said...

Wow, you figured out who wrote that huh? Here I thought you were a simple minded, deranged A**hole. But you're not simple minded at all, are you?

Anonymous said...

Back to my original question. Why are you importing possible future price increases into last years price?

Anonymous said...

Milk will be 5 a gallon this year up from 3 last year. This makes simpleton moronic minds think milk was 5 last year. For what reason the world will never know.

Anonymous said...

is simple logic 5 = 3 .49 = .28duhh

Anonymous said...

I presume you are incapeable of answering my question and are embarrased of your second grader arithmatic level. To estimate last years sales you DO NOT import what you THINK this years price will net into the equation. You have difficulty admitting mistakes my friend. That's a stain on your character.

nobody12378 said...

I'm a bonehead. What do you want from me?

Anonymous said...

huh huh he said bone

Anonymous said...

and head huh huh

Anonymous said...

Nobody are you spreading false information again? Me thinks so.

Leibert

nobody12378 said...

The investigation is reopened. I was caught tampering with evidence by playing with my balls.

Anonymous said...

you dont have any balls^^

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I don't know who is more annoying, Mr. Smallballs or the Hahaha guy!

Skribe said...

Ok how many analytics are in the house?
The Players, Tech, Patents, Products, and Services are of the highest quality.
Since the deployment of the new business model of a revenue stream based on royalty's from licensing they have signed a healthy basket full of licensed partners, ethanol producers. These producers have installed systems to extract corn oil which operate within the scope of GreenShift's patents and chose to license with GreenShift.
Thus the new business plan for the most part looks to have been successfully initiated and put on the path of growth, it's innovative unsurpassable in performance tech has been awarded the highest quality of protection in the form of Patents awarded by the USPTO. Thus a consistent revenue stream has been created.
The company has lingering debt, yet they have business and revenue. My question is can the management team operate at a profit? Because only by operating at a profit can there be financial growth for shareholders, whether insider or outsider. When the value of the corporation and the common stock is estimated by the net worth of it's assets divided into it's shares of stock. Fundamental's are the rock solid base that should be secured first and foremost to begin the rise in growth of corporate value, thus the goal to operate the company at consistent quarterly to yearly profit. Thus to make good on the hopeful promises to investors of a gainful return on their investments. Sure the litigation is of utmost importance, but in the meantime and after it is still a business priority to operate at consistent profitability and to allocate those profits to further develop the business for even more profitability and increase in bottom line and growth in shareholder value. Thus returning the favor to shareholders for helping them get started by investing, by showing them gains on their investments. A successful full circle that when a business is operated at consistent profit should snowball. The furthering increase in value, by the snowball means growth in corporate value, shareholder value.




Anonymous said...

Bottom Line

Anonymous said...

share count up, share price down. no transparency for a reason --- no real profit; gers can be acquired cheap, not he patents. the deal from the gate, the real bottom line.

Anonymous said...

Blogger nobody12378 said...

The investigation is reopened. I was caught tampering with evidence by playing with my balls.

Slashnuts said...

Post # of 33208

If You're Not Extracting Corn Oil, Why Not?

"Ethanol producers need to squeeze every penny out of their operations. But one expert in the field of corn oil wonders why some refiners aren’t trying to capture the corn oil produced when they make ethanol."

“It seems to be a fundamental piece of ethanol plant profitability,” Joe Riley, General Manager with FEC Solutions told Joanna during the recent Iowa Renewable Fuels Association (IRFA) Renewable Fuels Summit. He should know. His family has been operating in the fats and oils business for 26 years and lives in the heart of farming and ethanol production, Iowa.

With a potential to extract between 1.5 and 1.7 million gallons of corn oil from a 50 million-gallon-per-year ethanol plant, Joe questions why only about half of the refiners aren’t trying to capture that corn oil. “If you’re not extracting corn oil, you have to be asking yourself, “Why?” He said that worries of losing value in dried distillers grains (DDGs) have pretty much been answered, and with biodiesel operations expected to be using even more available oils, including corn, Joe pointed out that some refiners might be losing out on potential profit.

He does understand that some operators find it tricky to get the right market for their corn oil. That’s where FEC Solutions comes in. “Usually ethanol plants are really good at making and selling ethanol. We’re really good at selling oil… whether that’s in the feed industry, biodiesel industry, export markets, or specialty or oleo chemical markets.”

http://domesticfuel.com/2013/02/14/if-youre-not-extracting-corn-oil-why-not
Be sure to listen to Joanna's interview with Joe Riley at the bottom of the page. You'll hear quotes like...


"Centrifuge oil out of the syrup which is concentrated thin stillage"

"Plants must have corn oil running to stay in the black."

"If you have corn oil then you'll be making money, if you don't you won't."

"A fundemantal piece of ethanol plant profitability."

"If you're not extracting corn oil you've got to be asking yourself why not?"

"Corn oil averaged $.30 to $.40 cents in 2012."

"Corn oil should average $.35 to $.45 cents in 2013."

Good Luck To All!$!$!$!$!$!$

Slashnuts said...

Expert: Ethanol Producers Should Extract Corn Oil

Wednesday 02/20/13

"During the current economic climate that is forcing ethanol producers to squeeze every penny they can, one expert believes that all producers should be capturing corn oil for additional revenue, according to a post on the Domestic Fuel website.

Joe Riley, general manager with FEC Solutions, said he considers extracting corn oil to be a fundamental piece of ethanol plant profitability.

Riley said that a 50 million-gallon-per-year ethanol plant has the potential to extract between 1.5 and 1.7 million gallons of corn oil. That forced him to wonder why only about half the U.S. refiners are doing so.

The industry has since been reassured of its initial qualms about low-oil dried distillers grains being lower in value, he said. Also, demand for oil for biodiesel operations is predicted to be increasing.

Riley said that refiners not extracting oil could be missing an opportunity for additional profits, though it is important for producers to be sure they have the right market for their corn oil, whether it be the feed industry, biodiesel industry, export markets or specialty or oleo chemical markets."

http://www.dtnprogressivefarmer.com/dtnag/common/link.do?symbolicName=/ag/blogs/template1&blogHandle=ethanol&blogEntryId=8a82c0bc3c43f322013cf986f35c0737

Good Luck To All!$!$!$!$!$

nobody12378 said...

What?!!!

"Corn oil averaged $.30 to $.40 cents in 2012."

"Corn oil should average $.35 to $.45 cents in 2013."


Some here will label you as blasphemous for making such statements that might place GERS in a negative light when the 10K is filed.

Anonymous said...

whers the money?
licensees are doing great.
cwt is doing great.
we arent.

POS!

Anonymous said...

I like your comparison of yourself to a snake! I would have said it myself; but what you view as a complement, the other site would delete before I could hit Enter!
First time I have agreed with you in Months! DHOLE (Google It!) I know that is your path to "intelligence".

nobody12378 said...

How is your promotion of ADRN doing? I suspect that failure has made you a little grouchy. I suspect that you are concerned that you may not see the fruits of your labor with GERS; but that really is not my doing.

nobody12378 said...

It is important to note to any objective readers of this blog. There are many, many posters here that are apologists for GERS that work very hard to hide and disguise any facts that may place GERS in a negative light. Such an exercise has been witnessed in the futile attempts to discredit the calculations of GERS revenue from one small licensee. The data were derived from the average price received from GPRE GERS' largest customer. The upper range from literature in the trade journals. Ranges are extremely important when making estimates. Now, Slash who cannot be considered in any way negative to GERS has provided data documenting that the range I used was correct. (I now that wasn't his intention, but that is what he did -- Oops Slash).

You ask why would they go through all this effort to discredit the unimpeachable? The upcoming 10K will show no where the projected revenue that these calculations impute based on all the licenses. This disconnect between licensee revenue has gone on for a while. An army has been raised to attempt to insure that this discrepancy and its lack of explanation is not known to potential new investors. The relationship should be transparent and it is not raising many important questions as to why.

Anonymous said...

wrong your range was 40 to 49 moron

Anonymous said...

It is also noteworthy to know that there is also one slimebucket (Nobody) who continues to boast about being a large shareholder, yet is relentless in his negative attacks of this company. Go figure the logic in that!

Want to guess who this is again, smallballs?

nobody12378 said...

The relentless assessment of objective as negative is the norm here. Slash provided a range of 0.40 to 0.45 based on different assumptions/sources. So I guess Slash s a moron too? No, you say, because he only provides what you would call positive commentary. The small minds here will be long gone before we cash in on the value of this company -- many years ahead. Good riddance to them.

Anonymous said...

I would comment that someone sounds "moody" but actually, it's just normal.

Anonymous said...

its bad he cant read his own words

Anonymous said...

Yeah, he's lucky that way!

Anonymous said...

good one

nobody12378 said...

One of the defendants in a recent (the last quarter or the one before) that is a publicly traded company included a discussion about the litigation and the possible impact on their future bottom line in their 10Q. The discussion included the obvious statements that this could negatively impact shareholder equity if they were to lose. Mitigating this to some degree was the money put aside by ICM to indemnify the company as part of the agreement to license. The discussion went on to state that it wasn't known if this set aside would be adequate and that the company could be responsible for any difference required in court awarded damages.

Now, use your head, if you were ICM would you enter into such an agreement without having an opt-out provision protecting ICM? Namely, it is logical that the agreement has language stating that in the event the licensee settles in an adverse litigation setting that ICM's indemnification commitment (umbrella) would no longer be in force. I have no insider information and I stated that this morning. It is time for folks to add up 2 + 2 and not end with GERS' going to da moon!

Anonymous said...

First it's a two year old court filing then it's a six month old sec filing. Your senial. Defendants didn't say squat of money put aside didn't say squat about opting out or squat about umbrellas in or out of force. BS

 
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