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Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer, 37
So who will benefit from this relationship? Stay tuned to find out!
Project Manager, 2006-08 Greenshift Ethanol Conf Attendee, Alparetta, GA - About 28 years old
Rachael is a 1994 Graduate of Lakeside, a private Prep school in Seattle, WA. Rachael is a graduate of The University of the South, with a cum laude bachelor's degree in biological psychology and minors in fine arts and philosophy. One time IBM site designer, worked on Macy's e-commerce site and the redesign of the NYSE site. Founder of Kissykat and Candent Corp. As of March 31, 2008, the Company (GERS) owed Candent Corporation $757,853 (the "Candent Note"). The former president of Candent is the wife of the Company's chairman. All of the issued and outstanding capital stock held by Candent is in trust for the benefit of its former president. The note payable to Candent shall bear interest at a rate of 10% per year and matures November 8, 2010. (P. 21 1st Quarter)
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Time Line for Patents
- 17 Aug 2004 Clean Tech filed first COES Provisional Patent Application “050”
- 2004 Inventors Disclosed Technology to ICM. ICM executed Confidentiality Agreement. ICM purchases two authorized COES.p3
- June 2005: Westfalia is still "developing" COES technology while ICM is finally installing the two COES bought from the Inventors the year before
- 2005 The Inventors invited Ethanol manufacturers to symposium to hear about COES – 30% attended.(SkunK's idea on which one)
- 5 May 2005 Clean Tech filed first COES Non-Provisional Patent Application “859”
- 23 Feb 2006 '858 patent publication date.
- 23 Feb 2006 '729 publication date
- 6 May 2009 GERS receives Notice of Allowance for first Patents
- U.S. Patent 7,601,858 issued 13 Oct 2009
- U.S. Patent 7,608,729 issued 27 Oct 2009
- 16 Feb 2010 Notice Of Allowance Issued For Third GreenShift Corn Oil Extraction Patent
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CHAIRMAN of the GERS BOARD
Mr Kevin Kreisler maintains his GERS stock through his holding company: Viridis Capital, LLC. Mr. Kreisler is a graduate of Rutgers University College of Engineering (B.S., Civil and Environmental Engineering, 1994), Rutgers University Graduate School of Management (M.B.A., 1995), and Rutgers University School of Law (J.D., 1997). Served as the Company’s vice president from 1998 to 2000, president from 2000 to 2002, chief executive officer from 2002 to 2005 and has served as the Company’s chairman from 2005 to the present. Admitted to practice law in New Jersey and the United States District Court for the District of New Jersey. Kevin Kreisler is the sole owner of Viridis Capital LLC; GreenSpace Capital, LLC; Incandent Capital, L.L.C. Mr. Kevin Kreisler is about 37 years old.
"Roots" of Greenshift
- Greenshift Corp - until present
- GS Clean Tech Corp - until 2-2008 - 1-50 Reverse Split 12Dec2007
- VERIDIUM CORP until 7-2006
- KBF Pollution Management Inc from 3-1996 until 10-2003 - 1-20 Reverse Split 21Oct03
- KBF Pollution Control Inc 1984-1996
- Kreisler Bags - then - Kreisler Bags and Filtration 1979-1984 (hence "KBF" above)
Technicians and Magicians Behind the Curtain
David Fred Cantrell - Graduate of the University of Georgia where he received a Masters Degree in Poultry Science and Statistics. Co-inventor of COE technology with Dave Winsness. Started: Cantrell Winsness Technologies LLC. Next: CEO of Mean Green Biodiesel. Works out of One Penn Plaza, NY?
Dan Lester - Project Manager, GS CleanTech. Past: Warnecke Design Engineer 2004-2007; Imagetech Inc. Engineer 2001-2004. Education: Devry University EET, Electronics Engineering, 1998 — 2001
Patrick Bush - GreenShift’s Vice President of Biodiesel Technology
Dan Page - Attended 2008 Ethanol Conference for Greenshift Corp from Alpharetta, GA.
Dan Saltzman - Controller Greenshift Corporation
Past: 2001 — 2004 Assistant Controller, New York Mortgage;
1989 — 2000 Assistant Vice President Financial Reporting, Scudder; 1984 — 1997 Bucknell University
Jacqueline Flynn - Controller of GreenShift Corporation since 2006. She is the Chief Financial Officer (CFO) and Chief Accounting Officer for ESYM/ADRN. She is also the CFO for CICS. She has twenty years experience in financial accounting for both public and private companies.
Mary J. Carroll - Worked in GreenShift Administration since at least December of 2003. Presently GreenShift Vice President of Administration.
John W. Davis - John "Whit" Davis, has a B.S. in Civil Engineering from the U.S. Coast Guard Academy and an M.B.A from Boston University. GS CleanTech's new Vice President of Operations (as of PR 22 Jan '07), has a broad base of diversified management, engineering, operational and business development experience. Mr. Davis led the deployment of GS CleanTech's existing Corn Oil Extraction System installations at Little Sioux Corn Processors and Glacial Lakes Energy. Most recently in his career, Mr. Davis was the technical director for special projects at Vortex Dehydration Technology, where he led product design, development and implementation for many applications of the technologies underlying GS CleanTech's Tornado Generator[TM]. Mr. Davis holds the rank of Lt. Commander as a reservist with the U.S. Coast Guard. (One of four original COES Inventors.)
Dan Lester - Project Manager, GS CleanTech. Past: Warnecke Design Engineer 2004-2007; Imagetech Inc. Engineer 2001-2004. Education: Devry University EET, Electronics Engineering, 1998 — 2001
Patrick Bush - GreenShift’s Vice President of Biodiesel Technology
Dan Page - Attended 2008 Ethanol Conference for Greenshift Corp from Alpharetta, GA.
Dan Saltzman - Controller Greenshift Corporation
Past: 2001 — 2004 Assistant Controller, New York Mortgage;
1989 — 2000 Assistant Vice President Financial Reporting, Scudder; 1984 — 1997 Bucknell University
Jacqueline Flynn - Controller of GreenShift Corporation since 2006. She is the Chief Financial Officer (CFO) and Chief Accounting Officer for ESYM/ADRN. She is also the CFO for CICS. She has twenty years experience in financial accounting for both public and private companies.
Mary J. Carroll - Worked in GreenShift Administration since at least December of 2003. Presently GreenShift Vice President of Administration.
John W. Davis - John "Whit" Davis, has a B.S. in Civil Engineering from the U.S. Coast Guard Academy and an M.B.A from Boston University. GS CleanTech's new Vice President of Operations (as of PR 22 Jan '07), has a broad base of diversified management, engineering, operational and business development experience. Mr. Davis led the deployment of GS CleanTech's existing Corn Oil Extraction System installations at Little Sioux Corn Processors and Glacial Lakes Energy. Most recently in his career, Mr. Davis was the technical director for special projects at Vortex Dehydration Technology, where he led product design, development and implementation for many applications of the technologies underlying GS CleanTech's Tornado Generator[TM]. Mr. Davis holds the rank of Lt. Commander as a reservist with the U.S. Coast Guard. (One of four original COES Inventors.)
Christopher Kennedy
Project Manager, 2006-08 Greenshift Ethanol Conf Attendee, Alparetta, GA - About 28 years old
Public History of the Keisler Family
The lovely Mrs. Rachael Kreisler
Rachael is a 1994 Graduate of Lakeside, a private Prep school in Seattle, WA. Rachael is a graduate of The University of the South, with a cum laude bachelor's degree in biological psychology and minors in fine arts and philosophy. One time IBM site designer, worked on Macy's e-commerce site and the redesign of the NYSE site. Founder of Kissykat and Candent Corp. As of March 31, 2008, the Company (GERS) owed Candent Corporation $757,853 (the "Candent Note"). The former president of Candent is the wife of the Company's chairman. All of the issued and outstanding capital stock held by Candent is in trust for the benefit of its former president. The note payable to Candent shall bear interest at a rate of 10% per year and matures November 8, 2010. (P. 21 1st Quarter)
Kreisler Family Involved in GERS
Lawrence M. Kreisler - Lawrence is the sole owner of Serenity Capital, LLC. Built Kreisler Bags, then Kreisler Bags and Filters, then KBF Pollution Control Inc., then KBF Pollution Management Inc. After 1-20 R/S Sept2003 company was taken over by Veridium Corp in Oct2003, controlled by son Kevin. Resigned, effective December 31, 2003, as an officer and director of Veridium Corporation. Continued to work at Veridium's Paterson, New Jersey based recycling facility, that was designed on recycling technologies he invented. His employment was terminated in July 2004 due to irreconcilable philosophical differences in how to best operate and grow that facility. Bronze Parachute included: 100 percent of his salary of $150,000 through December 31, 2004 and 50 percent of his salary through December 31, 2006. Medical benefits until the age of 65. Lawrence is about 61 years old.
Scott Kreisler - Scott is the sole owner of Cyrus Capital, LLC. Brother of Kevin Kreisler, listed as a Beneficial Owner of Veridium Corporation on 4/2/2002 SEC filings. The 2005 annual report also says: "During 2005, Scott Kreisler, brother of Kevin Kreisler, received salaries of $72,700. Scott Kreisler no longer works for the Company." In February 2006, Cyrus Capital, LLC, purchased from GCS Investments $500,000 in convertible debt issuedby GS Clean Tech. During the period ended March 31, 2006, Cyrus effected conversions totaling $280,000, corresponding to 14,000,000 shares of the Company's common stock. During the second quarter 2006 Cyrus effected additional conversions totaling $120,000 into a total of 6,000,000 shares of the Company's common stock.
Kathi A. Kreisler From a 3/30/2001 filing: Kathi Kreisler is a Co-founder of VERIDIUM CORPORATION and served as its President from 1984 through December 1994. She has been a director since March 1984. In January 1995, Ms. Kreisler became vice president, secretary and treasurer of Veridium Corporation. From 1979 to 1984, Ms. Kreisler was a principal in Kreisler Bags and Filtration, Inc., which name was subsequently changed to KBF Pollution Management, Inc. Ms. Kreisler is the wife of Lawrence Kreisler and is the mother of Kevin and Scott Kreisler. During 2005, Kathi Kreisler received salaries of $33,750. During December of 2005, Kathi Kreisler received 3,806,811 shares of the Company's common stock as a settlement of all severance liabilities.
MIF During the first quarter 2008, Minority Interest Fund (II), LLC ("MIF") acquired the Kerns $1,000,000 Debenture. In February 2008, MIF subsequently fully converted this debenture at the rate of $0.16 per share into 6,875,000 shares of Company common stock. The managing member of MIF is a relative of Kevin Kreisler. (p. 23 1st Qtr Rpt)
Scott Kreisler - Scott is the sole owner of Cyrus Capital, LLC. Brother of Kevin Kreisler, listed as a Beneficial Owner of Veridium Corporation on 4/2/2002 SEC filings. The 2005 annual report also says: "During 2005, Scott Kreisler, brother of Kevin Kreisler, received salaries of $72,700. Scott Kreisler no longer works for the Company." In February 2006, Cyrus Capital, LLC, purchased from GCS Investments $500,000 in convertible debt issuedby GS Clean Tech. During the period ended March 31, 2006, Cyrus effected conversions totaling $280,000, corresponding to 14,000,000 shares of the Company's common stock. During the second quarter 2006 Cyrus effected additional conversions totaling $120,000 into a total of 6,000,000 shares of the Company's common stock.
Kathi A. Kreisler From a 3/30/2001 filing: Kathi Kreisler is a Co-founder of VERIDIUM CORPORATION and served as its President from 1984 through December 1994. She has been a director since March 1984. In January 1995, Ms. Kreisler became vice president, secretary and treasurer of Veridium Corporation. From 1979 to 1984, Ms. Kreisler was a principal in Kreisler Bags and Filtration, Inc., which name was subsequently changed to KBF Pollution Management, Inc. Ms. Kreisler is the wife of Lawrence Kreisler and is the mother of Kevin and Scott Kreisler. During 2005, Kathi Kreisler received salaries of $33,750. During December of 2005, Kathi Kreisler received 3,806,811 shares of the Company's common stock as a settlement of all severance liabilities.
MIF During the first quarter 2008, Minority Interest Fund (II), LLC ("MIF") acquired the Kerns $1,000,000 Debenture. In February 2008, MIF subsequently fully converted this debenture at the rate of $0.16 per share into 6,875,000 shares of Company common stock. The managing member of MIF is a relative of Kevin Kreisler. (p. 23 1st Qtr Rpt)
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Socialism
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Communism
"Where the link to producing goods and services and receiving goods and services is severed. Outdated, shabby or no production follows. Leads in time to a robust Free Enterprise system - starting with a black market."
"This system is not bad, it is just how things have worked in every functional society since time began. Someone provides a good or service in exchange for receiving a good or service. Money just facilitates making change and keeping score."
Socialism
"A system where more goods and services are provided to those who provide less goods and services." Leads to less goods and services.
Communism
"Where the link to producing goods and services and receiving goods and services is severed. Outdated, shabby or no production follows. Leads in time to a robust Free Enterprise system - starting with a black market."
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Note: I am a shareholder - I do not work for, nor do I receive any direct or indirect payment from GERS or anyone associated with them. (But it would be Kapitalist Kool if I did) I will not intentionally mislead - but I can be wrong (ask Mrs. SkunK for specific frequencies) - so do your own due diligence - and take responsibility for your own financial decisions – (and your own life in general) good or bad. I do not give financial advice - I let you look at my dd as I try to make sense of it all and make MY decisions. Make your own! I have been rightfully accused of being a rather cheery, positive individual who laughs at every opportunity. These tendencies may cause me to overlook deficiencies in this stock that are painfully obvious to others. Celebrate today - and some good garage logic luck to ya.
SkunK
(Blogger formerly know as Skunk)
Disclaimer for those who need additional clarification. . .
My beliefs and the financial strategies discussed on this site are not to be used without proper financial analysis of your personal situation. Better yet, you do not have my permission to use them at all. I strongly suggest you seek help of a financial advisor or, even better, a Certified Financial Planner in order to assist you in any financial planning. I am not selling or advising you to buy any financial products. I am not selling or advising you to buy this stock or any other stock! I am just blogging about one of my favourite subjects! This is a hobby for me and should only be entertainment for you. You may analyse my opinions and determine if they suit you or not. I hope that your personal finance path to your goals will be covered with success and profit. Enjoy your reading.
Additional Disclaimer for the real knukleheads . . . .
Look, if your still reading this disclaimer and haven't figured out my name is SkunK and I don't know nothin' then you really need help. If you still want to blindly go out and do whatever some dude on the internet does then I can't help you. If you are not emotionally secure enough to suffer another's opinion - then turn the dang channel. Quickly seek a mental health professional! I am not one of them either!
Still do not understand? This is for the Lawyers (lol)
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-- Gandhi
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It just don't fit anywhere else!
SkunK's Public Library; Magazine Section
- June 2008 Bio-Diesel Mag - New Bio-Diesel method that can use corn oil
- Marion (3rd COE) site and COE/Biodiesel
- Dr. Bayless explains Algae process he sold to Greenshift
- Our Algae slime is 94% starch and 6% oil
- and the super "algae" comes from Yellowstone
- Biodiesel Nov 2006 - The Matchmaker
- Forbes Dan Fisher Article
- Distillers Grain Quarterly - 2007 1st Quarter - "COE Opens New Markets"
34 comments:
some crazy action is happening here
yeah like sinking your money in here is crazy
This Nobody basher on Ihub really sucks at what he does. He just so stupid. Hope no one is paying him to bash on ihub and Yahoo under another name. He's that bad. Pay attention closely and you will see why.
Absolutley pathetic basher!
Here is an example from the "Absolutely pathetic basher" also known as me on I-Hub:
"I think blaming the entire sordid history of this company and its predecessors on the dastardly infringers is short sighted. The problems of infringement for any company that is based almost exclusively on its intellectual property must be expected. You know the time-honored adage, "Don't get in the water unless you know how to swim with sharks". Many of the problems GERS is facing today are self inflicted. That said, crawling out of the muck and mire is possible but will take more than just vanquishing the dastardly bad guys. Should I start the list with: establishing a real corporate governance? We could start a poll of what needs to be done and be bewildered by what ensues, much of it logical and reasonable. My point is that we have to start and any one assuming that we are going to transit from where we are to where we should be in terms of PPS without demolishing the old and laying a solid foundation is not paying attention. I have had two conversations with people of substantial means that I have tried to convince to come forward and invest or better provide alternative financing. After review of publicly available information their responses were very sobering -- it ain't going to happen without major corporate and share structure changes".
If this is bashing, you need to take a gander at Yahoo.
Once again Nobody, you backed up my claim.
When someone steals your technology and offers the service cheaper than the one that created it, more than likely the company will use the cheaper service with the same technology.
So, Greenshift did screw and that did hurt them big time.
Keep going nobody. You're so pathetic. You take that little yellow bus to school?
As usual the anonymous experts embarass themselves. What Nobody is portraying is sound reasons why the share price is not moving despite an increasingly profitable business model. All who invest here should be fully aware that, set against the Intellectual Property advantage, is the share structure that gives Kevin Kreisler almost complete control over what happens to our shares, with little in the way of Corporate Governance or oversight. Choose to ignore this if you want, but quit with the ignorant and childish attempts at a put down, because ultimately, he's right.
Neil,
I am writing GERS today in an attmept to determine why they have not placed a link to that very positive video on their web site. I have received replies to about 20% of my emails in the past. I am curious if I get a response and what that might be.
The cognomen "Neil" is no less anonymous than "anonymous". You are still hiding behind one or the other. I am.
We appreciate your input but please kill the condescending tone.
Neil is my name.
There are a lot of Neil's in this country!
Why don't you tell your last name, address, number and so forth with proof, then you can clam not to be anonymous.
Appreciate all you do.
With Neil (and myself, and others) you can follow him/us from board to board and evaluate consistency and cogency of their position. That ability provides a measure of accountability. Also, I respond negatively to the Anonys for two other reasons: 1) it is difficult to direct a reply, and 2) most of the Anonys do not contribute any thing, pro or con, that can be intelligently discussed, therefore causing all Anonys to be lumped in the category of reflexive responders. By the way, to what epithet are you referencing?
Neil,
don't YOU think it's obvious that with share price 0000.000001 there WILL be different pps along the way with different company structures?
At this moment we all know that investors believing in the technology have stood up to bring GERS to this point, suppose WE are not of the same character as some nobody's hidden agenda.
Lambertus,
I don't believe Nobody has a hidden agenda. He's mainly repeating his long held (I remember his posts on Raging Bull 6/7 years ago) and valid (IMO) concerns about corporate structure and governance. We should absolutely all be aware of this, though we may not all rationalise it the same way. It seems as though too many people that graze stock message boards are binary - they either want 100% support or 100% criticsm. Real life is much more nuanced. GERS is valued this low for a reason. We all hope that its valuation will begin to reflect the steps taken to enforce IP and develop customers. I believe it will - probably faster than Nobody thinks it will - but that doesn't mean he's wrong to highlight the issue. It helps me to reevaluate and I like to read the well thought out negative posts as much as positive.
I'm here to make money after all.
Thank you for your response Neil,
stock market is about the only market were people complain when it gets cheaper.
You liked it when it was 10 cents why dislike it at 1 cent, thats a hidden agenda to me or sheer stupidity.
What your simplistic analysis discounts is that circumstances may be the same or different between when it was 1 cent and when it was 10 cents. This is another throw away line that has less to it than meets the eye. As investors we should all reevaluate constantly as the corporate world is dynamic - this does not necessarily prove a hidden agenda or stupidity, but common sense.
To be clear, I am still investing at the prevarbial 1 cent, and have been so at various (higher) prices for over 6 years now. The fact that, on balance, I think the company will be successful does not mean I can can't see the risks.
The previous BUY recommendation was issued on 01.04.2012 (5) days ago, when the stock price was 0.0650. Since then GERS has gained 38.46% .
For some obtuse reason someone has chosen to confuse things by leaving the last message in my name. It was obviously a different Neil.
Why do people do this stuff?
Neil,
A simple conclusion does not portray a simplistic analysis.
I agree the analyse though a continuous process should have been done before first purchase and constant, but.. the corporate governance has NOT changed but PPS has and then we go harping on these moot points.
Why should I not see the risks or be blind to critics is beyond me. I just don't get it when someone buys shares and then complains for years on end.
The fact that corporate governance has not changed is a development in itself and affects ones judgement on the stock. It is not moot it is germane to the story. I would hope as the company matures and becomes a proper business rather than a start-up, that governance would develop. I'm still hoping for this for in order for this company to really succeed to the extent of its potential this is vital IMO.
" I would hope as the company matures and becomes a proper business rather than a start-up, that governance would develop"
Tell me doesn't want that?
But I for one do not have the compelling need to spell that out every day.
There are a lot, more important, things I want and I still do not pollute message boards.
But hey you like It, so be his guest.
Nothing like stating the obvious over an over an over an over an over an over again an again an again an again. His favorite music, elevator his favorite record, broken.
yours truely, Deadhorse
a lot of you people just cant accept the truth. NO PR's, NO website updates, dilution..reguardless of the tech. it is Kevin who hurts this company
and you keep given him money.90% of people talking about this company are investors the others were wipeed out by R/S. no one wants to lose money but thats what is happening here. so lets delay the hearing keep investors in the dark.. Well because they can. We wont get back to a dime again which is dam shame
Where is GERS? This news black out is not in our interest:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/10/business/energy-environment/companies-face-fines-for-not-using-unavailable-biofuel.html
There he goes playing with himself again.
Why don't you stop polluting the Skunk's fine blog and take this over to I-Hub where folks can respond more fully to your off-topic prattle?
Its to fun watching you play with yourself. Dont ask me to help you self stimulate
repost Ihub
Gripzool I salute you in your post and you took the words out of my mouth.
Why does there have to be a label called the "hallakuah chorus or pom pom people".
Who are you to say that just because every second you get you can copy and paste a stupid article written that doesn not even
address what our company is doing??
Wow....that article Nobody posted might as well been sponsered and funded by the oil companies. I mean do you really think they want to ajust and change to the demands of the EPA and the world. The answer is no and they are always going to bitch and moan about getting off the oil teat.
Im sorry, but im not waving pom poms here...but do you remeber the article where the EPA exclusavly mentioned our company and the change that our company was making and helping to make all this possible. Not with corn husks.....not with cow poo..we are into corn kernels..You know what the website says on Greenshift right there at the very top..." One kernel: two fuels"
Maybe you should go re-read what it is the company does.
I agree with everyone that yes it is agravating about the lack of news and sitting having to wait. But kindley take also into consideration that they do have a ongoing settlement negotiation, other litigations or god knows what that they maybe cannot speak or comment right now on.
If your losing patience with the company and just want to bash it all day like you dont have a day job or something...then why dont you just cash out and go find a dependable stock that with pamper you with news all day. Get out of the penny stocks and go buy shares in Connoco Phillips or something. Oil companies are always dependable right??
To new ones hear that read this....the first ompression before they do their due dillegence is the sky is falling and this company is a POS.
I noticed that alot of our people that support this stock have not posted alot latley and its only been the continued supoport of our pessamistic posters.
Possibly its the good raising that says" if you cant say something nice dont say nothing at all"
Instead of the mentality by saying "if you dont have news just say anything at all and think and say about the worst"
OK....increased contracts, business signing on, profits on the rise, a positive Marksman hearing, settlement negotaitions with some infrigers, 2 infringers aleady backing down and signing on, Major Sunoco signing on, big installations for 2012, exceelent patients issued up the wazoo..... Yeah....I dont know...something sounds allfull fishy here and this company really is sounding like a stinker.
Really.... take a look again. If you have to have your hand held and spoon fed news everyday, then this isnt the stock for you nor is any penny stock.
I keep an open mind and there is nothing wrong about saying things that are not always positive about the company. But if thats all you do is for over a year bash the company that your money is in like some people here. It seriously makes one wonder about your intentions and what your day job is.
Sorry for the long post here....but some things are just getting old. After this I will problably go again on my 2 month silence period....but at least I have the patience to do so and bite my tounge.
Great Post Kim!
According to that Century News alert, it now says Greenshift has over 30% of the Ethanol Business.
Oh Nobody, where are you pathetic moron!
@Anonymous 2:21PM
You might want to reread that. It says 30 percent of the ethanol industry is using Greenshift technology. We have to wait until after the courts decision before your statement is true.
BillV,
Read the Century21 e-mail Alert and it was stated in that bio intro.
You may want to check that before you try to correct me!
BillV,
Here it is from 21st Century Business e-mail wire.
Over 30% of the industry is currently using GreenShift’s patented and patent-pending extraction technologies.
Any questions or comments now?
Yea over 30 are using it but half are licensed and half infringing.
Anonymous 4:36PM has it right. Just because their using GS Tech, doesn't mean that GS is getting paid. Unless GS somehow signed over 10% of the industry already this year.
BillV,
No, I read that over 30% using it are licensed. We do not know how many are using it that are not licensed as it's never been presented.
How Do do you agree that half are infringing? Can you back that?
They would only state what they know and that is over 30% licensed.
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