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3:14-4:50 GERS COES
CliK PiK (Long Range Adv Tech)
GERS Patented Tech-MSNBC
Feedstock Conditioning!
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer, 37
So who will benefit from this relationship? Stay tuned to find out!
Project Manager, 2006-08 Greenshift Ethanol Conf Attendee, Alparetta, GA - About 28 years old
Rachael is a 1994 Graduate of Lakeside, a private Prep school in Seattle, WA. Rachael is a graduate of The University of the South, with a cum laude bachelor's degree in biological psychology and minors in fine arts and philosophy. One time IBM site designer, worked on Macy's e-commerce site and the redesign of the NYSE site. Founder of Kissykat and Candent Corp. As of March 31, 2008, the Company (GERS) owed Candent Corporation $757,853 (the "Candent Note"). The former president of Candent is the wife of the Company's chairman. All of the issued and outstanding capital stock held by Candent is in trust for the benefit of its former president. The note payable to Candent shall bear interest at a rate of 10% per year and matures November 8, 2010. (P. 21 1st Quarter)
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3:14-4:50 GERS COES
co2 Bioreactor
CliK PiK (Long Range Adv Tech)
GERS Leadership
Flash Desiccate
GERS Patented Tech-MSNBC
Tornado Generator
Feedstock Conditioning!
Kevin Kreisler
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer, 37
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Time Line for Patents
- 17 Aug 2004 Clean Tech filed first COES Provisional Patent Application “050”
- 2004 Inventors Disclosed Technology to ICM. ICM executed Confidentiality Agreement. ICM purchases two authorized COES.p3
- June 2005: Westfalia is still "developing" COES technology while ICM is finally installing the two COES bought from the Inventors the year before
- 2005 The Inventors invited Ethanol manufacturers to symposium to hear about COES – 30% attended.(SkunK's idea on which one)
- 5 May 2005 Clean Tech filed first COES Non-Provisional Patent Application “859”
- 23 Feb 2006 '858 patent publication date.
- 23 Feb 2006 '729 publication date
- 6 May 2009 GERS receives Notice of Allowance for first Patents
- U.S. Patent 7,601,858 issued 13 Oct 2009
- U.S. Patent 7,608,729 issued 27 Oct 2009
- 16 Feb 2010 Notice Of Allowance Issued For Third GreenShift Corn Oil Extraction Patent
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CHAIRMAN of the GERS BOARD
Mr Kevin Kreisler maintains his GERS stock through his holding company: Viridis Capital, LLC. Mr. Kreisler is a graduate of Rutgers University College of Engineering (B.S., Civil and Environmental Engineering, 1994), Rutgers University Graduate School of Management (M.B.A., 1995), and Rutgers University School of Law (J.D., 1997). Served as the Company’s vice president from 1998 to 2000, president from 2000 to 2002, chief executive officer from 2002 to 2005 and has served as the Company’s chairman from 2005 to the present. Admitted to practice law in New Jersey and the United States District Court for the District of New Jersey. Kevin Kreisler is the sole owner of Viridis Capital LLC; GreenSpace Capital, LLC; Incandent Capital, L.L.C. Mr. Kevin Kreisler is about 37 years old.
"Roots" of Greenshift
- Greenshift Corp - until present
- GS Clean Tech Corp - until 2-2008 - 1-50 Reverse Split 12Dec2007
- VERIDIUM CORP until 7-2006
- KBF Pollution Management Inc from 3-1996 until 10-2003 - 1-20 Reverse Split 21Oct03
- KBF Pollution Control Inc 1984-1996
- Kreisler Bags - then - Kreisler Bags and Filtration 1979-1984 (hence "KBF" above)
Technicians and Magicians Behind the Curtain
David Fred Cantrell - Graduate of the University of Georgia where he received a Masters Degree in Poultry Science and Statistics. Co-inventor of COE technology with Dave Winsness. Started: Cantrell Winsness Technologies LLC. Next: CEO of Mean Green Biodiesel. Works out of One Penn Plaza, NY?
Dan Lester - Project Manager, GS CleanTech. Past: Warnecke Design Engineer 2004-2007; Imagetech Inc. Engineer 2001-2004. Education: Devry University EET, Electronics Engineering, 1998 — 2001
Patrick Bush - GreenShift’s Vice President of Biodiesel Technology
Dan Page - Attended 2008 Ethanol Conference for Greenshift Corp from Alpharetta, GA.
Dan Saltzman - Controller Greenshift Corporation
Past: 2001 — 2004 Assistant Controller, New York Mortgage;
1989 — 2000 Assistant Vice President Financial Reporting, Scudder; 1984 — 1997 Bucknell University
Jacqueline Flynn - Controller of GreenShift Corporation since 2006. She is the Chief Financial Officer (CFO) and Chief Accounting Officer for ESYM/ADRN. She is also the CFO for CICS. She has twenty years experience in financial accounting for both public and private companies.
Mary J. Carroll - Worked in GreenShift Administration since at least December of 2003. Presently GreenShift Vice President of Administration.
John W. Davis - John "Whit" Davis, has a B.S. in Civil Engineering from the U.S. Coast Guard Academy and an M.B.A from Boston University. GS CleanTech's new Vice President of Operations (as of PR 22 Jan '07), has a broad base of diversified management, engineering, operational and business development experience. Mr. Davis led the deployment of GS CleanTech's existing Corn Oil Extraction System installations at Little Sioux Corn Processors and Glacial Lakes Energy. Most recently in his career, Mr. Davis was the technical director for special projects at Vortex Dehydration Technology, where he led product design, development and implementation for many applications of the technologies underlying GS CleanTech's Tornado Generator[TM]. Mr. Davis holds the rank of Lt. Commander as a reservist with the U.S. Coast Guard. (One of four original COES Inventors.)
Dan Lester - Project Manager, GS CleanTech. Past: Warnecke Design Engineer 2004-2007; Imagetech Inc. Engineer 2001-2004. Education: Devry University EET, Electronics Engineering, 1998 — 2001
Patrick Bush - GreenShift’s Vice President of Biodiesel Technology
Dan Page - Attended 2008 Ethanol Conference for Greenshift Corp from Alpharetta, GA.
Dan Saltzman - Controller Greenshift Corporation
Past: 2001 — 2004 Assistant Controller, New York Mortgage;
1989 — 2000 Assistant Vice President Financial Reporting, Scudder; 1984 — 1997 Bucknell University
Jacqueline Flynn - Controller of GreenShift Corporation since 2006. She is the Chief Financial Officer (CFO) and Chief Accounting Officer for ESYM/ADRN. She is also the CFO for CICS. She has twenty years experience in financial accounting for both public and private companies.
Mary J. Carroll - Worked in GreenShift Administration since at least December of 2003. Presently GreenShift Vice President of Administration.
John W. Davis - John "Whit" Davis, has a B.S. in Civil Engineering from the U.S. Coast Guard Academy and an M.B.A from Boston University. GS CleanTech's new Vice President of Operations (as of PR 22 Jan '07), has a broad base of diversified management, engineering, operational and business development experience. Mr. Davis led the deployment of GS CleanTech's existing Corn Oil Extraction System installations at Little Sioux Corn Processors and Glacial Lakes Energy. Most recently in his career, Mr. Davis was the technical director for special projects at Vortex Dehydration Technology, where he led product design, development and implementation for many applications of the technologies underlying GS CleanTech's Tornado Generator[TM]. Mr. Davis holds the rank of Lt. Commander as a reservist with the U.S. Coast Guard. (One of four original COES Inventors.)
Christopher Kennedy
Project Manager, 2006-08 Greenshift Ethanol Conf Attendee, Alparetta, GA - About 28 years old
Public History of the Keisler Family
The lovely Mrs. Rachael Kreisler
Rachael is a 1994 Graduate of Lakeside, a private Prep school in Seattle, WA. Rachael is a graduate of The University of the South, with a cum laude bachelor's degree in biological psychology and minors in fine arts and philosophy. One time IBM site designer, worked on Macy's e-commerce site and the redesign of the NYSE site. Founder of Kissykat and Candent Corp. As of March 31, 2008, the Company (GERS) owed Candent Corporation $757,853 (the "Candent Note"). The former president of Candent is the wife of the Company's chairman. All of the issued and outstanding capital stock held by Candent is in trust for the benefit of its former president. The note payable to Candent shall bear interest at a rate of 10% per year and matures November 8, 2010. (P. 21 1st Quarter)
Kreisler Family Involved in GERS
Lawrence M. Kreisler - Lawrence is the sole owner of Serenity Capital, LLC. Built Kreisler Bags, then Kreisler Bags and Filters, then KBF Pollution Control Inc., then KBF Pollution Management Inc. After 1-20 R/S Sept2003 company was taken over by Veridium Corp in Oct2003, controlled by son Kevin. Resigned, effective December 31, 2003, as an officer and director of Veridium Corporation. Continued to work at Veridium's Paterson, New Jersey based recycling facility, that was designed on recycling technologies he invented. His employment was terminated in July 2004 due to irreconcilable philosophical differences in how to best operate and grow that facility. Bronze Parachute included: 100 percent of his salary of $150,000 through December 31, 2004 and 50 percent of his salary through December 31, 2006. Medical benefits until the age of 65. Lawrence is about 61 years old.
Scott Kreisler - Scott is the sole owner of Cyrus Capital, LLC. Brother of Kevin Kreisler, listed as a Beneficial Owner of Veridium Corporation on 4/2/2002 SEC filings. The 2005 annual report also says: "During 2005, Scott Kreisler, brother of Kevin Kreisler, received salaries of $72,700. Scott Kreisler no longer works for the Company." In February 2006, Cyrus Capital, LLC, purchased from GCS Investments $500,000 in convertible debt issuedby GS Clean Tech. During the period ended March 31, 2006, Cyrus effected conversions totaling $280,000, corresponding to 14,000,000 shares of the Company's common stock. During the second quarter 2006 Cyrus effected additional conversions totaling $120,000 into a total of 6,000,000 shares of the Company's common stock.
Kathi A. Kreisler From a 3/30/2001 filing: Kathi Kreisler is a Co-founder of VERIDIUM CORPORATION and served as its President from 1984 through December 1994. She has been a director since March 1984. In January 1995, Ms. Kreisler became vice president, secretary and treasurer of Veridium Corporation. From 1979 to 1984, Ms. Kreisler was a principal in Kreisler Bags and Filtration, Inc., which name was subsequently changed to KBF Pollution Management, Inc. Ms. Kreisler is the wife of Lawrence Kreisler and is the mother of Kevin and Scott Kreisler. During 2005, Kathi Kreisler received salaries of $33,750. During December of 2005, Kathi Kreisler received 3,806,811 shares of the Company's common stock as a settlement of all severance liabilities.
MIF During the first quarter 2008, Minority Interest Fund (II), LLC ("MIF") acquired the Kerns $1,000,000 Debenture. In February 2008, MIF subsequently fully converted this debenture at the rate of $0.16 per share into 6,875,000 shares of Company common stock. The managing member of MIF is a relative of Kevin Kreisler. (p. 23 1st Qtr Rpt)
Scott Kreisler - Scott is the sole owner of Cyrus Capital, LLC. Brother of Kevin Kreisler, listed as a Beneficial Owner of Veridium Corporation on 4/2/2002 SEC filings. The 2005 annual report also says: "During 2005, Scott Kreisler, brother of Kevin Kreisler, received salaries of $72,700. Scott Kreisler no longer works for the Company." In February 2006, Cyrus Capital, LLC, purchased from GCS Investments $500,000 in convertible debt issuedby GS Clean Tech. During the period ended March 31, 2006, Cyrus effected conversions totaling $280,000, corresponding to 14,000,000 shares of the Company's common stock. During the second quarter 2006 Cyrus effected additional conversions totaling $120,000 into a total of 6,000,000 shares of the Company's common stock.
Kathi A. Kreisler From a 3/30/2001 filing: Kathi Kreisler is a Co-founder of VERIDIUM CORPORATION and served as its President from 1984 through December 1994. She has been a director since March 1984. In January 1995, Ms. Kreisler became vice president, secretary and treasurer of Veridium Corporation. From 1979 to 1984, Ms. Kreisler was a principal in Kreisler Bags and Filtration, Inc., which name was subsequently changed to KBF Pollution Management, Inc. Ms. Kreisler is the wife of Lawrence Kreisler and is the mother of Kevin and Scott Kreisler. During 2005, Kathi Kreisler received salaries of $33,750. During December of 2005, Kathi Kreisler received 3,806,811 shares of the Company's common stock as a settlement of all severance liabilities.
MIF During the first quarter 2008, Minority Interest Fund (II), LLC ("MIF") acquired the Kerns $1,000,000 Debenture. In February 2008, MIF subsequently fully converted this debenture at the rate of $0.16 per share into 6,875,000 shares of Company common stock. The managing member of MIF is a relative of Kevin Kreisler. (p. 23 1st Qtr Rpt)
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Capitalism
"This system is not bad, it is just how things have worked in every functional society since time began. Someone provides a good or service in exchange for receiving a good or service. Money just facilitates making change and keeping score."
Socialism
"A system where more goods and services are provided to those who provide less goods and services." Leads to less goods and services.
Communism
"Where the link to producing goods and services and receiving goods and services is severed. Outdated, shabby or no production follows. Leads in time to a robust Free Enterprise system - starting with a black market."
"This system is not bad, it is just how things have worked in every functional society since time began. Someone provides a good or service in exchange for receiving a good or service. Money just facilitates making change and keeping score."
Socialism
"A system where more goods and services are provided to those who provide less goods and services." Leads to less goods and services.
Communism
"Where the link to producing goods and services and receiving goods and services is severed. Outdated, shabby or no production follows. Leads in time to a robust Free Enterprise system - starting with a black market."
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Note: I am a shareholder - I do not work for, nor do I receive any direct or indirect payment from GERS or anyone associated with them. (But it would be Kapitalist Kool if I did) I will not intentionally mislead - but I can be wrong (ask Mrs. SkunK for specific frequencies) - so do your own due diligence - and take responsibility for your own financial decisions – (and your own life in general) good or bad. I do not give financial advice - I let you look at my dd as I try to make sense of it all and make MY decisions. Make your own! I have been rightfully accused of being a rather cheery, positive individual who laughs at every opportunity. These tendencies may cause me to overlook deficiencies in this stock that are painfully obvious to others. Celebrate today - and some good garage logic luck to ya.
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(Blogger formerly know as Skunk)
Disclaimer for those who need additional clarification. . .
My beliefs and the financial strategies discussed on this site are not to be used without proper financial analysis of your personal situation. Better yet, you do not have my permission to use them at all. I strongly suggest you seek help of a financial advisor or, even better, a Certified Financial Planner in order to assist you in any financial planning. I am not selling or advising you to buy any financial products. I am not selling or advising you to buy this stock or any other stock! I am just blogging about one of my favourite subjects! This is a hobby for me and should only be entertainment for you. You may analyse my opinions and determine if they suit you or not. I hope that your personal finance path to your goals will be covered with success and profit. Enjoy your reading.
Additional Disclaimer for the real knukleheads . . . .
Look, if your still reading this disclaimer and haven't figured out my name is SkunK and I don't know nothin' then you really need help. If you still want to blindly go out and do whatever some dude on the internet does then I can't help you. If you are not emotionally secure enough to suffer another's opinion - then turn the dang channel. Quickly seek a mental health professional! I am not one of them either!
Still do not understand? This is for the Lawyers (lol)
DISCLAIMER: The author is not a registered stockbroker nor a registered advisor and does not give investment advice. His comments are an expression of opinion only and should not be construed in any manner whatsoever as recommendations to buy or sell a stock, option, future, bond, commodity, index or any other financial instrument at any time. While he believes his statements to be true, they always depend on the reliability of his sources. The author recommends that you consult with a qualified investment advisor, one licensed by appropriate regulatory agencies in your legal jurisdiction, before making any investment decisions, and that you confirm the facts on your own before making important investment commitments.
Note: I am a shareholder - I do not work for, nor do I receive any direct or indirect payment from GERS or anyone associated with them. (But it would be Kapitalist Kool if I did) I will not intentionally mislead - but I can be wrong (ask Mrs. SkunK for specific frequencies) - so do your own due diligence - and take responsibility for your own financial decisions – (and your own life in general) good or bad. I do not give financial advice - I let you look at my dd as I try to make sense of it all and make MY decisions. Make your own! I have been rightfully accused of being a rather cheery, positive individual who laughs at every opportunity. These tendencies may cause me to overlook deficiencies in this stock that are painfully obvious to others. Celebrate today - and some good garage logic luck to ya.
SkunK
(Blogger formerly know as Skunk)
Disclaimer for those who need additional clarification. . .
My beliefs and the financial strategies discussed on this site are not to be used without proper financial analysis of your personal situation. Better yet, you do not have my permission to use them at all. I strongly suggest you seek help of a financial advisor or, even better, a Certified Financial Planner in order to assist you in any financial planning. I am not selling or advising you to buy any financial products. I am not selling or advising you to buy this stock or any other stock! I am just blogging about one of my favourite subjects! This is a hobby for me and should only be entertainment for you. You may analyse my opinions and determine if they suit you or not. I hope that your personal finance path to your goals will be covered with success and profit. Enjoy your reading.
Additional Disclaimer for the real knukleheads . . . .
Look, if your still reading this disclaimer and haven't figured out my name is SkunK and I don't know nothin' then you really need help. If you still want to blindly go out and do whatever some dude on the internet does then I can't help you. If you are not emotionally secure enough to suffer another's opinion - then turn the dang channel. Quickly seek a mental health professional! I am not one of them either!
Still do not understand? This is for the Lawyers (lol)
DISCLAIMER: The author is not a registered stockbroker nor a registered advisor and does not give investment advice. His comments are an expression of opinion only and should not be construed in any manner whatsoever as recommendations to buy or sell a stock, option, future, bond, commodity, index or any other financial instrument at any time. While he believes his statements to be true, they always depend on the reliability of his sources. The author recommends that you consult with a qualified investment advisor, one licensed by appropriate regulatory agencies in your legal jurisdiction, before making any investment decisions, and that you confirm the facts on your own before making important investment commitments.
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SkunK's Public Library; Magazine Section
- June 2008 Bio-Diesel Mag - New Bio-Diesel method that can use corn oil
- Marion (3rd COE) site and COE/Biodiesel
- Dr. Bayless explains Algae process he sold to Greenshift
- Our Algae slime is 94% starch and 6% oil
- and the super "algae" comes from Yellowstone
- Biodiesel Nov 2006 - The Matchmaker
- Forbes Dan Fisher Article
- Distillers Grain Quarterly - 2007 1st Quarter - "COE Opens New Markets"
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Attis Industries Reports Improved Balance Sheet and Continues Focus for Building Shareholder Value with Increased Stockholders Equity
https://www.nasdaq.com/press-release/attis-industries-reports-improved-balance-sheetandcontinues-focus-for-building-shareholder-value-20180821-00500
Expects Increased Revenue for the Remainder of 2018
Key highlights include:
$0.24 EPS for the three months ended June 30, 2018, as compared to ($0.94) for the three months ended June 30, 2017
$0.50 EPS for the six months ended June 30, 2018, as compared to ($1.76) for the six months ended June 30, 2017
As of August 17, 2018, there were 21,625,328 shares outstanding of the registrant's common stock
$44.7 million in total assets
$13.7 million shareholders equity, as compared to negative shareholder equity of ($16.8 million) for the period ended December 31, 2017
Attis Industries expects to hold a shareholder update conference call by mid-September and will provide the exact date and call information within the next two weeks.
Jeff Cosman, Chief Executive Officer of Attis Industries, commented, "The company has proven its strategy to restructure its balance and build a more strategic business plan in as quickly as three months from selling its capital intensive and over-levered solid waste unit. We have a few steps to go - our Innovations Division will shock the plastics and fuels market in 2019 as the Healthcare unit builds on the momentum of new labs being completed and coming on line in the third quarter of this year. The company expects increased revenue and positive earnings from this point on in 2018. The excitement is building within the company as to how big the company can be and how influential the company can be as a company focused on strategic components of the GDP (energy, healthcare, infrastructure/utilities). The last steps of the restructure are eliminating the remaining legacy debt and completing exciting opportunities that demonstrate my vision for Attis Industries while maximizing shareholder value in 2018 and beyond."
Good Luck To All!$!$
Slash - post something that translates into shareholder value for GERS...
And if you think this does, please explain as such..
Thank you!
Not to speak for slash but GERS owns a lot of ATIS. What's good for ATIS good for GERS
(8) GreenShift Corporation (“GreenShift”) beneficially owns 1,000,000 shares of common stock and is the holder of 130,000 shares of Series G Convertible Preferred Stock. All investment decisions for GreenShift are made by GreenShift’s Chief Executive Officer, Kevin Kreisler. Viridis Capital LLC is the owner of 80% of the capital stock of GreenShift, and Mr. Kreisler is the sole member and manager of Viridis Capital LLC.
Your comment may define the ownership but to date nothing has had any positive impact on the share price of GERS.
Next?
To date from what? According to nobody it was traded below 1 cent.now many times more!
Put down the Kool-aid and do your homework... Do you know how many reverse splits this has had you fool? We even had 10,000 - 1 reverse splits. It's has a split adjust share price of probably close to $40.00 per share...
I believe if you add up all the reverse splits, one share pre pre pre pre pre pre split was something like one trillion dollars. but that's in the past, currently trading in the pennies and I'd take the 'dollar's range.
Yo sucka I didn't buy 10000 splits ago like you. who's the fool? look in the mirror the answers staring back at you.
My guess is that lying makes life a little easier for you. My guess is that everyone on this board bought, including your defensive dweeb ass, bought "10000 splits ago" (what ever that means).
Close your mom's basement door when you leave the house, I heard you left it open yesterday...
Jealousy is the fear of comparison. It's the tribute mediocrity pays to genius.
You can be the moon and still be jealous of the stars.
The jealous are possessed by a mad devil and a dull spirit at the same time.
Jealousy is a mental cancer.
Okay Kevie...
Stop overthinking>>>
You're only creating problems that aren't there.
It's amazing where the paranoid mind can take you.
After the court verdict .What do think the share price will be?
A lot of speculation regarding the price of GERS stock once the legal course of action winds down.
A lot can be taken into consideration regarding the courts. 1. They could enforce the original rulings. 2. They could overturn the original rulings. 3. They could accept a mediated agreement between all parties.
In short, the courts could do a lot of things. All of which will impact the stock price.
There has been talk of mergers, Atis; lots of activity on the speculation level and none concrete until Greenshift posts a new SEC filing.
In my opinion, I think that currently it bodes well for Greenshift. One of the main reasons I feel are that the U.S. Patent office upheld the patents in favor of the company. And someone has to own the patents and if owning the patents then those infringing have to pay something.
As a guess I'm going with $1.50 a share. That would give Greenshift a market cap of of 40mil or in that range.
IF, i-f, if Greenshift does get good news though, I would not be surprised to see an over reaction for investing in GERS as Greed is a powerful thing and in the penny market world of stocks, it would not surprise me to see a daily spike in price for a week or so and that's where most of the savvy investors are going to make a killing... IF IF IF IF IF IF IF... the news is financially positive to the company.
Robin - I know you are like most who post here and want nothing but a positive outcome in the courts, myself included, but you fail to mention what you think will happen if the courts rule against us...
My guess, we go to a sub-penny and Atis buys the scraps for next to nothing.
No one knows where this will go if it is positive. If they are awarded treble damages, $1.50 is way undervalued but then again, until GERS updates their filings, I am not so sure the common shareholder will partake in a run higher like the preferred shareholders will. I have lost trust as a multi-year shareholder and suffered the consequences of all the toxic financing, which I may add actually kept us going in some bizarre way.
Settlement?
We tried that before and got burnt. No, this time it is all or nothing with the odds strongly favoring a version of "all". It was a waste of almost a year's time and a lot of money falling into the defendant's "settlement negotiation" trap. All that did was promote their primary strategy -- delay, delay, delay until GERS' goes under. I was never in favor of the settlement and I am glad that it is in the rear view mirror. If you have been following the authoritative blogs on this issue you will know the reasons supporting my belief. Thank goodness we are finally full steam ahead with the resolution that will have the greatest impact.
We'll, anonymous, while it does look dire for the company if the court rules against Greenshift in entirety, the stock price will plummet... though, this is a penny stock, a publicly traded company where strange things occur. For example: Years after enron went under, people still traded the stock.
I remember a lot of companies I've owned over the years and have seen what COULD happen to Greenshift.
The courts rule in all matters against the company. Stock plummets. SEC filing/news from the company comes out with something like "We suffered a setback to be sure but we still have this and that and look at our earnings from this and that, and oh, by the way..."
Stock price bounces around and those trading, make money. Now, saying all that, I'd rather think positive but we'll see.
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I agree, Nobody, but think this past year that dealt with mediation.
Mediation might have had an impact for the future (now)
1. Mediation involved talks and information exchanged.
2. The courts can see the parties involved were willing to engage in mediation, thus open to settlement.
3. There might have been some sort of settlement bandied about by both parties but rejected. A new Pacer filing with news of some doubt for the infringing companies and suddenly the 'settlement of offer' can be made better.
In short, I'm a firm believer in mediation first and then when that venue is over, then, like what we are all in now, go for the appeal, or as you say, "Full steam ahead."
I don't know man. That ruling caught them off guard. Totally unexpected. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JXkI-83ybhaTfqfCgYydKPv71_P0e20K/view
The 40 day deadline has come and gone. What about that? The only thing we heard was another company basically said; hey we already reached a settlement, leave us alone.
I am fairly certain that the principals felt bamboozled by the duplicitous nature of the "mediation/settlement" talks.
Fancy words you got there but you didn't answer my question.
40 days from July 5th was August 11th... Add 60 to 90 days after 8/11 for a ruling, we are day 17...
There has been no filing of any kind either in response to the court order or a request for an extension. PACER does not deceive. Therefore, it is not reasonable to have any expectation when the Court will respond.
40 days from the 5th was the 14th bro. Then you got reply briefs, oral arguments, closing, bla bla bla. Lot's of stuff before a final ruling my man. My point? Where's the opening brief? Nada. Just a company that said; hey we already settled, buzz off.
Attis Def 14c
We were promised this filing no later than August 31. Here it is.
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/949721/000121390018011827/def14c0818_attisindustries.htm
Here's a reminder of what Kevin communicated to shareholders about this deal.
"Your patience and support has never been forgotten. Each of us has bled to build value for the industry. It's high time that our shareholders had a chance to participate in that value. All of our shareholders."
"We're about to pay off the last remnants of our debt from before the crash. We're about to file our appeal. And, by virtue of this deal, regardless of what happens with the litigation, we're about to start growing again."
"We agreed to bring all filings current by year end in our deal with Attis. Those filings will include updates on revenue, debt, and share structure. Everyone’s patience and support continues to be appreciated."
"Everyone's questions will be addressed in GreenShift's filings as the company gets current.
Thanks,
Kevin"
Good Luck To All!$!$
Never says Kevin who...
All the gesticulations about August 31 are off target. According to a federal court web site:
"Date to be Calculated from: July 5, 2018
Enter Number of Days to Deadline: 40
Date of Deadline: August 14, 2018"
Something is amiss here. Hard to believe that they (C&C et al.) would not meet court-ordered deadline. One would think that, at a minimum, they would request more time if the deadline was not possible to meet.
BUT nothing new on PACER as of 4:30 PM EDT.
One word. Settlement.
Harry on the hub is the biggest moron ever. What an idiot!
I would think that any reason not to comply with the court order would require a filing with the court, otherwise there would be the risk of "contempt of court" finding.
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