Wednesday, October 24, 2012

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nobody12378 said...

The Skunk has posted more legal maneuvering that is part of the delay, delay, followed by more delay tactics of the defendants. In the past I have noted that this could have two effects; the one that the defendants are trying to achieve and the one that technology invariably provides. Today the NY Times was all over butanol as a better fuel than ethanol.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/24/business/energy-environment/weighing-butanol-as-an-alternative-to-ethanol.html?_r=0

Recently GERS has written that this challenge is real:

"It is possible that other ether products could enter the market and prove to be environmentally or economically superior to ethanol. It is also possible that alternative biofuel alcohols such as methanol and butanol could evolve into ethanol replacement products. Research is currently underway to develop other products that could directly compete with ethanol and may have more potential advantages than ethanol. Advantages of such competitive products may include, but are not limited to: lower vapor pressure, making it easier to add gasoline; energy content closer to or exceeding that of gasoline, such that any decrease in fuel economy caused by the blending with gasoline is reduced; an ability to blend at a higher concentration level for use in standard vehicles; reduced susceptibility to separation when water is present; and suitability for transportation in gas pipelines. Such products could have a competitive advantage over ethanol, making it more difficult to market ethanol, which could reduce the ability of our licensees to generate revenue and profits, and adversely affect our financial condition."


This was my concern; that the proceedings could be so dragged out that innovation would close the window to cashing in on our technology.

Any intelligent input about how GERS is now positioned to respond to the butanol challenge?

PS Does posting from the NY Times also mean that I reside in NY as well?

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Anonymous said...

GERS does not produce ethanol, dumb ass. GERS extracts corn oil.

nobody12378 said...

Can't you read and understand what GERS has said about butanol and its risk to their business which does not exist if ethanol is not produced? The reading comprehension level here is abysmal. Do you not realize that you have effectively called your savior, KK, a dumb ass for writing the words; "Such products could have a competitive advantage over ethanol, making it more difficult to market ethanol, which could reduce the ability of our licensees to generate revenue and profits, and adversely affect our financial condition."?

by techguess said...

i know,

so that corn oil is still a by product of butanol...that is butanol process requires corn grain same as ethanol?

Anonymous said...

comprehension level here is abysmal.

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comprehension level here is abysmal.

Anonymous said...

he difference from ethanol production is primarily in the fermentation of the feedstock and minor changes in distillation. The feedstocks are the same as for ethanol: energy crops such as sugar beets, sugar cane, corn grain, wheat and cassava, prospective non-food energy crops such as switchgrass and even guayule in North America, as well as agricultural byproducts such as straw and corn stalks.[6] According to DuPont, existing bioethanol plants can cost-effectively be retrofitted to biobutanol production.[7]

by techguess said...

thank you annony1:01

question, then why did nobody pull a quote from KK that the butanol angle could be negative for gers?

that is my confusion...

it sounds like a positive to me...a better fuel plus the gers oil by product

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Anonymous said...

i assume there's no difference, without assuming otherwise, of course, and that transition might be expensive.

Anonymous said...

OMG Techguess, would you please get your head out of your ass!!

Butanol can use switch grass or other nonfood raw materials rather than corn. How the hell are you going to extract corn oil from grass?

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Anonymous said...

are these GERS blender pumps?

A Lexington service station has become the first in the state to sell an E-15 ethanol blend.

Neal Hoff of Uncle Neal’s Phillips 66 called it “the fuel of the future for automobiles” and a logical choice for his customers.

“We put in blender pumps,” Hoff said Tuesday, “and they were active by Friday night. And by Saturday night, yes, we had sales.”

Anonymous said...

it didnt work


Gevo began making butanol at a 22 million gallon a year ethanol plant in Luverne, Minn., in May, although it has now stopped production.

“We’re currently in the process of switching back to ethanol while we give engineering team to make some improvements,” said Chris Ryan, Gevo’s president.

Anonymous said...

Based on the corn oil percentage levels in the distillers grains in the Illuminate database, the company estimated the growth in corn oil extraction in the past year. The data showed that 20 percent of ethanol plants were extracting corn oil as of March 2011 and—as of March 2012—that percentage had grown to 40 percent. Musser estimated that 70 to 80 percent of ethanol plants will be extracting corn oil by the end of 2012. Still, he clarified that the Illuminate numbers were somewhat “fuzzy” due to the fact that various facilities extract different percentages of corn oil and some facilities may only be ramping up corn oil extraction levels.

nobody12378 said...

These are good discussions of the challenges and opportunities for GERS. Finally, some folks that want to delve into this future rationally -- what a breath of fresh air. I like this new group of cadets very much -- no grooming needed.

Anonymous said...

ethanol/butanol is only worth so much but when its made from corn, fermenters also get DDGS and Corn Oil. thats 3 times the value of ethanol/butanol alone.

corn gives farmers a measure of diversification. when there is an immediate and long term over-supply of switch grass, which would seem likely, the farmers bottom line would drop.

i dont think they are switching to grass.

but thats just: in my own feeble opinion.





Anonymous said...

no fresh air, nbobody is blowing butanol out of his bunhole after sandusky is done with him

Slashnuts said...

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http://investor.gpreinc.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=714556

Green Plains to Discuss Third Quarter 2012 Financial Results

-- Green Plains Renewable Energy, Inc. (Nasdaq:GPRE) will hold a conference call to discuss its third quarter 2012 financial results on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 at 11:00 a.m. ET. Green Plains' participants will include Todd Becker, President and Chief Executive Officer, Jerry Peters, Chief Financial Officer, and Jeff Briggs, Chief Operating Officer. Following their presentation, participants will be available for a brief question and answer session.

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About Green Plains Renewable Energy, Inc.

Green Plains Renewable Energy, Inc. (Nasdaq:GPRE) is North America's fourth largest ethanol producer. The Company markets and distributes approximately one billion gallons of renewable motor fuel on an annual basis. Green Plains owns and operates grain handling and storage assets and provides complementary agronomy services to local grain producers through its agribusiness segment. Green Plains owns BlendStar LLC, a biofuels terminal operator with locations in the southern U.S. Green Plains is a joint venture partner in BioProcess Algae LLC, which was formed to commercialize advanced photo-bioreactor technologies for the growing and harvesting of algal biomass."

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Anonymous said...

why is BP abandoning cellulosic ethanol?

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- BP PLC BP -0.19% has canceled plans to build an ethanol plant in Central Florida's Highlands county, the UK-based oil company said Thursday. The company will redeploy "considerable capital" required to build the plant into "more attractive" projects, it said in a press release. BP announced plans to build the Florida plant in 2008, aiming at 36 million gallons per year of cellulosic ethanol and construction of a facility costing between $250 million and $350 million. The company said it continues to invest and operate in a research facility in San Diego, and a demonstration plant in Louisiana. BP shares declined 0.2% in the New York Stock Exchange.

Anonymous said...

because cellulosic switchgrass butanol dont work are to expensive an not worth it

Anonymous said...

Exactly!

Nobuddy, STFU.

Anonymous said...

next best thing to corm is hemp: food and oil from seeds. building materials, paper and clothes from fibers. medicine for pain and depression. need to figure out how to ferment it to make beer for ethanol/butanol, and other uses.




Anonymous said...

Biofuels, such as biodiesel and alcohol fuel, can be made from the oils in hemp seeds and stalks, and the fermentation of the plant as a whole, respectively. Biodiesel produced from hemp is sometimes known as "hempoline".[54]

Filtered hemp oil can be used directly to power diesel engines. In 1892, Rudolf Diesel invented the diesel engine, which he intended to fuel "by a variety of fuels, especially vegetable and seed oils, which earlier were used for oil lamps, i.e. the Argand lamp."[55][56][57]

Anonymous said...

Ethanol production during the third week in October increased 126,000 gallons per day from the week previous due in part to stabilizing corn markets.

On a weekly chart, prices through the month of October have been limited to a 12-cent range, which has helped to draw plant capacity higher.

Total production is listed at 33.6 million gallons per day, which is still 11.9% above year-ago levels. Overall inventory decreased 1.2% from week-ago levels as overall increased demand for ethanol blending outweighed the increase in production levels

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

no fresh air, nbobody is blowing butanol out of his bunhole after sandusky is done with him

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nobody12378 said...

Wow, five shares still will not buy a newspaper.

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Anonymous said...

Romney looks like a president. He can do the job leading this great country forward. Obama looks like hes going back to Kenya.

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Guided by ultrasound, the abortionist grabs the baby's leg with forceps.








The baby's leg is pulled out into the birth canal.








The abortionist delivers the baby's entire body, except for the head.








The abortionist jams scissors into the baby's skull. The scissors are then opened to enlarge the hole...








The scissors are removed and a suction catheter is inserted. The child's brains are sucked out, causing the skull to collapse. The dead baby is then removed.





Obama described partial birth abortion procedures as "legitimate" medicine.

Anonymous said...

The woman in question was raped by her father and to young to safely give birth to a child.

Some would rather force the woman if she survives pregnancy and birth to raise her brother from own womb.

In name of humanity we'll let others suffer.

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Incest and safety of the the mother are rare exceptions. 95% of abortions do not apply to that.







The woman in question was actually my wife. She screwed around and had abortion way before we met.







Curettage scarring a damaged cervix and a dead child were the result of the abortion.








She wants a baby more then anything in the world. Our chances are slim thanks to the damage the abortion did.









It's true women regret it. Her daughter would be 16.

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Otherwise you would have never married her.

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