Friday, August 3, 2012

Defendants ask 4 Delay 2 Reply 2 Memo

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129 comments:

Anonymous said...

Makes sense to file jointly (saves Greenshift from responding to each individual defendant / saves $$$$) and seeing how this case will take years to wind through the courts before a verdict is reached, I suspect that a couple of extra weeks will not make of difference in the long run.

Anonymous said...

Maybe the defendants are all joining together to finally settle, as they have no chance in hell of winning this.

nobody12378 said...

Delay, delay, followed by more delay. Who does that serve? Not the common shareholders for sure. But this is to be expected and why I have for more than a year stated that despite all the apparent short term victories the battle of financial exhaustion was the one that needed to be won; and that would take a long time and a lot more of our money through the sale of shares and and loss of our equity through the necessary dilution to accomplish this end. Another example of this apparent victory mirage is the Amaizing "settlement". This was a courtesy given to a current client that included GERS eating the cost of the litigation so far (our money as well) with no guarantee that another license will develop from this plant. Show me the guarantee of an additional license -- you cannot! Therefore, as it stands on the facts to date, this is a financial loss for us and another victory mirage.

Anonymous said...

Nobody, why do you try so hard?

nobody12378 said...

No effort at all -- just a little acumen required. Instead of assassinating my motives why not factually address the issues (positive and negative) that I raise? That would be far more constructive and interesting.

Anonymous said...

Thats the only common sense for settlement. If they don't license with gers there would be no reason for settlement. It's quiet clear, no guarantee needed. By the way, not only gers is loosing lots of money with litgation, the defendants are also suffering. Every single month of litigation, every single check signed out for the lawyers is getting them to the edge. They have also shareholders and/or stakeholders wanting to know where the money is gone. Pressure for settlement is getting higher as the yield on corn oil is dropping! There is a point when infringers must recognize that going along with gers is more profitable (even with royalities to be payed) then wasting money for litigation and a bad working equipment...

m2a

Anonymous said...

neilbody 719

nobody12378 said...

m2a,

I think you are laboring under one false assumption -- sanity. DVG appears to be out of touch with reality and is absolutely convinced he will win. If the lower court finds against him he will surely believe it in error and that the appellate court will right that wrong. That's the problem here; rational thoughts about cost are not driving the opposition. If they won't surrender then the only choice is to kill them, but this takes time, money, blood, and energy that could be expended developing new business; much like the marines learned on Okinawa.

GOLDDIGGER said...

What's happening here I struck GOLD

Anonymous said...

Nobody, you're also basing future expectations on a complete assumption. DVG "appears" to be out of it (mentally) and willing to fight to the bitter end. But do you have his medical health records to indicate that he is in fact "out of touch with reality".

Maybe he knows very well what he's doing. Maybe he THOUGHT he had a good chance, having so many different lawyers grouped together on his one single side. Maybe he thought, under the advice of his legal counsel, that their arguments were valid and bulletproof.

And maybe, just maybe, when all his arguments are failing, and the inedible is obvious, he will realize he's fighting a losing battle. He should know by now, the longer he holds off, the more money he is responsible for to pay in damages. And the smart thing would be to end it, settle, and cut his losses as they currently stand. Of course, this opinion would be argued by his lawyers, as it means an end to their income.

But that’s ok, let’s take “facts”, misconstrue them to an exaggerative point to make them appear in agreement with your opinions and theories, and then take an assumption of an individual’s UNknown mental health status, and present assumptions based on that assumption as fact.

I suppose that’s one effective way to convince the majority who don’t have the time to do DD or current mistrust to actually believe your nonsense.

nobody12378 said...

Unfortunately, my impressions are not mine, but those of GERS' principals.

Anonymous said...

2's coming

nobody12378 said...

Also, the issue is not whether DVG can eat the facts as "inedible" as you describe them, but whether he will accept them.

GOLDDIGGER said...

Finally, a settlement TIME TO BUY MORE GERS GOLD

Anonymous said...

They delay because they know they can't win. Let them delay. Treble damages are adding up everyday to the tune of forty mill a year.

nobody12378 said...

Ever hear of Chapter 11? I wonder how difficult it would be for GERS and us to get our money back under a bankruptcy filing? It makes no sense for GERS to go after treble damages because that is the likely outcome.

Anonymous said...

Nobody, if a company files for Chapter 11 or Chapter 7 after losing or settling, they still owe that debt. I does not, contrary to popular belief, relieve one from their legally established debt. If that were the case, everyone and company that got sued with a huge lawsuit would simply file for bankruptcy.

In a bankruptcy case, all the companies assets become liquid, and a court order has priority over those assets.

Of course a company can request a stay, which delays the recovery of assets for a certain time period, but the plaintiffs of the case can also file to have that stay removed.

Either way, the defendants will have to pay. Bankruptcy or not.

Stop trying to make GERS sound hopeless when we are clearly winning this case.

Anonymous said...

Nobody go back to your circle jerk with Neil and bill.

nobody12378 said...

At last look we have no debtors prisons in this country. Is GERS going into the ethanol producing business? Will GERS sell off ICM assets at a fraction of their value? Stop trying to sugar coat the fact that "winning" here is not what everyone thinks, and putting a company out of business is not good business for GERS, and why if everyone was realistic we would have no problems if we survive the delaying tactics. But everyone is not and will not be realistic. This road is long and arduous.

Anonymous said...

If its sooo long and arduous than go hibernate somewhere and shut up for that long and arduous time.

Why must you continue to be pessimistic every single friggin day? Over and over and over again.

If someone wants high hopes, let them think that way. No point into trying to beat your twisted view into the readers every day.

Your consististency completely devalues any credit you could have as being "intelligent" or "knowledgable".

You sound like a desperate car salesman trying to sell the only lemon car left on the lot.

Skunk could post ANY possitively positive news, and you'll be right there to comment how GERS is going to go sub penny, have to reverse split, and how it'll still take years for anything to happen.

GreenShift themselves could post a press release stating that they settled and received all the money owed to them, and you'd still say "It'll be years before it's reflected in the stock price. Sub pennys on the horizon".

Seriously, if you truly believe the outcome of this litigation is going to be sooo long and arduous, go away and hibernate.

nobody12378 said...

"If someone wants high hopes, let them think that way". Where does fantasy have any role in investing? Your statements are factually incorrect. I have BOTH positive and negative issues relative to GERS, and I have stated both.

Anonymous said...

nobody you donkey buy more shares and get out of ur mommas basement

Anonymous said...

Nobody, you ask where does fantasy play a role in investing? Well simply, people don't invest in a stock unless they think its going to make them money. Duh. If they don't think they'll money, they either dont invest, or get out. I guess you can call that fantasy.

Where does consistently pessimistic opinions based on your own twisted theories play a role in investing? Oh, thats right, PANIC POSTING.

Which one is worse for the investor?

nobody12378 said...

Look at the record bozo, my twisted theories as you describe them has called every turn of this stock in the last two years; the R/S, the 1000:1, the BID collapsing, the revenues not being any where what people were expecting, the PPS falling below two cents a share, all long before they occurred, and on and on. The old timers here will reluctantly confirm these for you if you are unwilling to do the work and follow the trail. The only thing twisted here is reality.

Anonymous said...

GERS didn't put anybody out of business Icm infringed an put themself out of business. If Icm files for Bk that will NOT stop Gers from collecting. The courts WILL award the moneys. Courts get PRIORITY over debt collectors so no, your wrong, Icm filing will NOT stop treble damage awards.

nobody12378 said...

The award and treble damages may well more than ICM is worth, certainly more than they can develop in cash. I ask again, is it in GERS' interest to put ICM and the others out of business? Does GERS intend to get into the ethanol producing business? Do they want to collect a fraction of the value of all that equipment in a fire sale? Some estimates places damages at near $300 million, with treble that is over a billion dollars. Do you really think that would be forth coming? On the other hand, an award any where near that level would be about 10,000 times GERS current market cap. That would make interesting trading.

Anonymous said...

Looks like were not going sub penny this week fuk face

nobody12378 said...

We will, unless something radically unexpected occurs.

Anonymous said...

Not this week circle jerk boy

jimmowrey said...

Nobody, I would very much be in support of ICM and others going out of business. They are not only in the business of building ethanol plants, but their newest business is competing with GERS for corn oil extraction equipment, and processes. Some legal, and some illegal. We may not get all of the cash coming to us, but ridding those guys from the business can be nothing but positive.

nobody12378 said...

Agreed, and further, vanquishing DVG would have some value for many of us. My points have been two: 1) it is going to take time and DVG is not voluntarily coming to the alter, 2) If and when the award is made that does not translate into endless riches; there are significant limits on what could be in the cookie jar.

Slashnuts said...

ANDE: Corn Oil Extraction Surges 495% YOY/60% In 3 Months!

First of all, ANDE stated their plants are running at full capacity, they have not slowed them down.

In the 2nd quarter of 2012, ANDE extracted 14.46 million pounds.

In the 2nd quarter of last year, ANDE extracted just 2.43 million pounds.

That's an increase of 495% over last year!

In Q112, ANDE extracted 9.1 million pounds so oil extraction jumped 60% in just 3 months.

Most of this increase is from the Marathon Petroleum (MPC) plants that ANDE is partners with. The rest of the increase is from the infringer they purchased, so the most recent settlement is already contributing to GERS' revenue stream.

For the first 6 months of 2012, corn oil shipped was 23,556,000 pounds compared to 4,134,000 pounds in the first half of 2011.

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?p=irol-eventDetails&c=96043&eventID=4806311

ANDE said they're looking to expand and that corn oil really helped this quarter. They don't plan on slowing down their plants either.



Good Luck To All!$!$!$!$!$

nobody12378 said...

Should be no reason then for GERS Q2 not to be a big improvement over the last two quarters.

Anonymous said...

Finally we agree. But your still a Fuk face

nobody12378 said...

You must be new. The positive sentiment about revenues has resulted in disappointment the last two quarters.

nobody12378 said...

This sentiment is clearly not held by someone that just dumped 200,000 shares. As I said, you must be new. You have a lot of learning to do.

Anonymous said...

here's something he can learn neilbody is the yohoo basher

Anonymous said...

Yea I'm new but I knew nobody123 aka jjwood123

Anonymous said...

I have Nobody ignored on IHub. Best thing I ever did. Is there any way to do that here? He's already said the same stuff 400 times. I don't need to see it another 400. You may say just don't read his posts, but if it's there I will read it. It's kind of like a smoke shop worker trying to kick the habit.

nobody12378 said...

Biggest dump of the quarter, how can that be with all the GPRE and ANDE revenue in their coffers?

Anonymous said...

Still not sub penny after your precious dump. Your not taking us down basher boy

Anonymous said...

Maybe its people buying and others tired of waiting? God forbid someone has an answer that isn't doom and gloom, right Nobody?

nobody12378 said...

You are missing the bigger picture. How can GERS have ALL this revenue that most are estimating and still not be able to make its interest payments to YAGI? They pledged $1.6 million for the year which is more than the $1.4 million required to cover the YAGI interest on the remaining loan? Between what folks expect from GPRE and ANDE the total amount would be easily covered. The installment only $400,000 and they can't pay that? This is the picture you should be exploring not the inside of your dreams like a space cadet.

Anonymous said...

I just took the biggest dump of my life on nobodys face

nobody12378 said...

The last Anony is also new to the dilution problem -- the trades were consistent with the previous pattern of dilution dumping. Learn before you speculate, it is much healthier.

Anonymous said...

Plug your nose before I dump on your face its less smellier

Anonymous said...

u might have a dilution problem in ur anus nobody

Anonymous said...

Really? Because you've been wrong with "spotting" dilution in the past.

There is no way of knowing for sure, so stop going around calling every big transaction "dilution" when you don't actually KNOW for sure.

You're scare tactics are really getting ridiculous. You're gripping at straws here trying to scare people away, just like ICM is trying to desperately fabricate whatever new argument they can make up to stall time.

Hmmm, there can't possibly be a connection between the incredibly desperate not-to-lose defendants and the historically, consistently pessimistic, panic-posting Nobody, can there?

nobody12378 said...

You better check the record before you make your outlandish statements. I was ridiculed months ago for stating that my algorithm pointed to 30 million shares as the OS share count in the Q1. No one but myself expected that, I had the data. After the OS count came out at 30,000,000 a certain poster accused me of felonious activity; having insider information. No, I just used my power of observation, did a little arithmetic and arrived at the inevitable conclusion. You should try it some time. I have already posted my estimate for the OS share count that we will soon see.

Anonymous said...

He likes the smell reminds him of his good old beastiality days

Anonymous said...

how many shares are going to be diluted in your a** this weekend at the flaming saddle?????

lambertus said...

I'm an old timer, and Nobody did not predict every turn and twist as he proclaims.

What he did do however was name anything possible he could, like taking GERS private and a whole lot more, then bought shares and started yelling to everybody he was the best.

his kids went to lawyer schools, he is a medical expert, a visionair in the stock market and posts 20-30 times 5 -7 days a week, I would be ashamed with a father like that.

nobody12378 said...

I will do this one time. What is stated above is absolute nonsense. Discussing the possibility of taking a company private is not the same as predicting that event. In fact, I have argued that KK will NOT take GERS private because he would lose the market multiplier for his company's worth. After meeting with several of the principals I am convinced that he will NOT. The poster just regurgitates idiotic pablum to embellish his mind set.

If any one wants the real truth here, start with IHub post #22517 and follow the trail in that post. Seven major events were predicted and occurred. Add to that the recent call for an OS count last quarter of 30 million and the PPS falling below 2 cents after the nickel threshold was reached and you have nine major correct calls. But who cares, idiots who want to follow their beliefs do so, I will continue to try and provide some balance to those delusions.

lambertus said...

First you call me to testify then you want the last word?

How about you draw for everybody to see a stock chart for GERS for the coming 2 years, in that way you can share you're gift of prediction with us instead of becoming a "I told you so" whilst posting that we should not demand the most from DvG and heroically defends the innocent share buyer from "delusion" and buys more shares himself.

Anonymous said...

Right on nobodys a phony. He has his agenda no way an investor he want gers to go down bigtime.

nobody12378 said...

All, notice the non responsive innuendo and defensive tone as an alternative to factual reply. This tells everyone the dearth of substance available to those with hurt feelings created by countering their hopes and wishes.

Anonymous said...

Well said Lambertus and thank you.

Anonymous said...

Nobody you're an idiot.

Anonymous said...

I see 2s coming

Anonymous said...

Buys 600,000 lots a buying friday

Anonymous said...

Nobody,

I am shocked most of the posters here do not read your lines with interest and understand the intent of your post. As I see it, you are providing an interesting perspective on upcoming events and this company. Blind eyes have a high sense of smell. Open eyes use both senses, which seems to be what is ocuuring with the cheerleaders. If there were more reality applied to comments and less emotion, there may be positive structure developed from your posts with genuine debate.

I too see irregularities in how this company is being managed. It appears the company is not concerned about the pps and is not hanging the hat on a big settlement. It is alternatively apparent most investors sentiment is to hang their hat on a big infringement settlement with the idea of cashing in. It is a "whatever it takes" mentality to hit the "big money" and we all go home rich after we sell. However, keep in mind how many and who the majority ownership is. Even if there is a settlement, it does not mean the "Board of Directors" will shell out a penny to the shareholders.

So as you suggest, this may be a long slog with more dilution to come. GERS does not seem to be concerned about pps, which is understandable since the major shareholders are executives and own their shares on a non-diluted basis.

Revenue therefore is being spent on the next "party technology", which I believe is biopolymers from syrup. GERS hired a new high level employee during late 2011 that has ties into the agriculture industry. GERS is also pushing to get COES II deployed for greater oil recovery (or leaving less oil in the by-products).

In order for the polymer science to work, syrup needs to have most of the oil removed in support of biopolymers. Then look for a syrup dryer which will allow ethanol producers to not need to add syrup back to the wet DDGS and use it for biopolymers, thus increasing DDGS protien content for higher value.

I suggest GERS is purposely not paying YAGI and allowing the dilution in order to utilize revenue on new process and product development. After all, this is stated in the GERS business plan. GERS does not expect to hang its hat on COES I only. They have a vision to bring all by-products of the ethanol industry to higher value markets.

So interpreting writing on the wall depends upon how it was written, who can see it, who interprets it, but also the smell of the ink.

I am a GERS investor. GLTA

nobody12378 said...

That employee you describe not only worked for the US AG Dept he has, as you call them, ties to Asian markets. There is a caveat to your comments. KK, in writing, in a SEC filing "pledged" $1.6 million to be directed to paying off YAGI interest and principal. That is $200,000 more than required for just the interest. IF they have decided to redirect these funds as you imply, the Q2 filing must notify investors of that change. I will be looking at their commentary on the YAGI loan closely.

RichWilson said...

That last comment is the most intelligent comment I've read in a long time.

I also am a long time investor in Gers and its previous incarnations.

nobody12378 said...

One more point to "GERS investor", if they are focusing their revenue on R & D it still must be documented as revenue which as you know has fallen very short of projections based on revenue from licensees. For example, we have learned that GPRE and ANDE revenue from corn oil would translate into about $5 million in royalties for GERS in Q2 alone. I repeat, ALONE, just from these two,albeit major, licensees. I am pretty sure that we will not see any where that based on the differential for the previous two quarters. So, focusing revenue is one thing, not having it is another.

Anonymous said...

Nobody,

There is a misconception thet GERS is recieving 20%+ royalty on their license contracts. Licenses are going for between 8 and 15 percent, depending upon volume. Percentage royalty varies with situations involving a high volume buyer versus a low volume buyer.

In reality, where you and I reside, GPRE, ANDE and Sunoco are only paying around 8 to 15 percent. GERS does not reveal contract terms because just as you say, GERS does not want to publish negotiated terms, which could influence future contracts.

In my opinion, Nobody, you have much more fodder to ponder than the posters who only think you are a "skunk" (sorry SKUNK). You are a realistic poster. It is the Cheerleaders that are clouding the vision.

This is NOT a gold digger quick hopefull, get rich quick investment. All is told by the financing arrangements and majority holdership. This is a long play at best so I suggest most posters check it once a month or two rather than by the day or hour. I am long for at least five years as you (Nobody) suggest, I plan slow accumulation over that time as I suspect you (Nobody) is doing.

This does not mean you cannot play the game and recieve a few profits along the way. Interestingly enough Nobody, you do not need say a word and the worshippers will make that happen on the side-lines with every breath of "news".

My hat is off to you Nobody and maybe our paths will cross on another investment (let me know). For now, on this investment, it would serve everyone better to acknowledge your intellect and thoughts, comment on specific statements and not throw out opinion in defamatory terms.

I am a GERS investor GLTA

Anonymous said...

Then go join his circle jerk on bills site.
I am also a gers investor

Anonymous said...

Nobody am I your daddy? Cause I used to take it to your mommy!!



Hard!!!

Anonymous said...

Nobody,

It appears the GERS worshippers now have two realists to bash. I guess I like circle jerks, getting dumped on and having a "daddy" NOT. However, I suggest you and I tell it like it is, make fact based decisions and continue to make profits on GERS as long investors. It is fine to take a few profits along the way when worshippers go into panic buying or panic selling.

If you read my past postings, I only post facts and suppositions based upon research to the best of knowledge I may derive. I expect the same from other posters, but this has not been the case. I believe you (Nobody) are attempting same, but getting blasted by the worshippers and believers. Many of them may have already extended their funds too far to recoup the benefits thay expected. So those investors are frantically looking for a quick gold digging payout that will not happen.

As I previously mentioned, this company is not about the shareholders. It is about the majority stock owners. Any investment in GERS should be viewed as long and long term because it will take a major event for the controlling interest in this stock to give up majority ownership and total control of finance decisions. If I had total controlling stock ownership, I may want to reward me before you. Only a significant event that requires loss of over 50% control of the business will result in major gains for stakeholders.

A win in litigation that becomes a major money influx may not help the stakeholders at all because management will decide how any funds are spent. Funds could be spent in the fashion of bonuses for the workers who kept the company moving forward and are still there. Keep in mind this company once had over 75 employees and now is down to maybe 15. In that case, stockholders have no voice because of the major ownership payout decisions.

A refinancing event that requires major stockholders to give up over 51% of the company voting stock is the only way common shareholders will make money. As I stated before, the majority stockholders own shares on a non-diluted basis so dilution does not concern them at all.

I will quit for now and take my hits from glory seekers.

I am GERS Investor. GLTA

Anonymous said...

Listen anony 1:27, no one is bashing Nobody for "telling it like it is".

People bash Nobody because he has a habit of constantly putting out posts about how the stock is about to go sub-penny (which to ANY friggin investor would scare them! Oh, and even though he proclaims this almost EVERY day, it has yet to go that far!) And what is this based on? THEORY! HE does not predict the future, he doesn't know if any second the stock with turn around and jump up 10 cents. But he DOES post all of his pessimistic B.S. theories as if they are definitively fact.

I don’t care if you look at the details and come to the conclusion that "Well I THINK this is what we should expect".

Instead, Nobody states his panic-posts as "This IS what's going to happen".

Do you agree that its better to scare the hell out of every investor by telling them you are positively CERTAIN the stock will plummet into sub penny and take YEARS to recover?

Or, as anyone without a negative motive would, do you feel it’s better to state that its your opinion, its what you THINK, nothing that you positively KNOW will happen, just a THEORY?

Because that is not what Nobody does. Read his posts on Skunk, read his post on iHub.

Every post that can be considered a "panic-post" by the so-called GERS "worshippers" is presented by Nobody as a straight up, matter-of-fact, absolutely-going-to-happen situation.

And that, under no damn circumstance, is right. If you agree with Nobody and his matter-of-fact way of posting pessimistic, negative theories on a day-to-friggin-day basis, than you are no better.

You might even have the same negative motive as him to scare every investor with THEORIES, stated as absolute fact, and masked under the term "objective questioning".

Its already been proven by seeing him post the exact same negative panic-posts, word for word on other forums, at near the same time, under different names like "JJwood123" and Tadaa (Why would someone post their same, matter-of-fact "going-down" posts to multiple places if not for a bad motive?)

Maybe you're just another one of his personalities, showing a slightly different character, but still in absolute agreement with his style of presenting negative views and theories as absolute, going-to-happen facts.

And if not, and if you truly are an investor of GERS as you proclaim, than take a moment to go back and read all of his posts on this website, and on iHub, and his other character jjwood on Yahoo, and you'll see, as any investor would, regardless of what outcome you truly feel for GERS, you would not think Nobody is an honest investor doing the fellow readers good.

And if you think posting panic-posts, negative theories, constantly pessimistic views of any news or situation, EVERY SINGLE DAY, CONSTANTLY, and presenting them as absolute going-to-happen, get-out-while-you-still can, don't invest here now or for years, definitively true-because-I-sound-smart, facts, than there is absolutely something wrong with you.

And although that very last statement is posted as a fact, as Nobody does, at least that statement can be proven by anyone with a moral conscience and no hidden motives.

nobody12378 said...

My posts could appear that way to a moron with a reading comprehension level of a ten year-old. I cannot save you from your self. Any half-way intelligent person, that wasn't reading what I have stated over the years through a delusional lens, would come to the same conclusion. My posts are there, I provided a thread staring at IHub post #22517 that annihilates your dribble. My record is unblemished in its accuracy; it is not like your posts of paranoia that you produce diuretic venom. So go back and get some education, read like an educated person and many of your childish fears will vaporize; many of your suspected demons will be vanquished and the specter of GERS may become a reality. Bloated, inane, dribbling, commentary, with construction so foreign that it appears as if English is your second language will not provide you sanctuary.

Anonymous said...

if two accounts allow someone to whack their own bid and drive the price down on low volume then claims of guru status derived therefrom would be the mumblings of an idiot or a liar.

iMOFO

Anonymous said...

just saw nobodys mom hooking @ walmart

Anonymous said...

So your saying nobody is taking down the stck sub penny between two accounts. Interesting theory.

nobody12378 said...

Defamation—also called calumny, vilification, traducement, slander (for transitory statements), and libel (for written, broadcast, or otherwise published words)—is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government, religion, or nation a negative or inferior image. This can be also any disparaging statement made by one person about another, which is communicated or published, whether true or false, depending on legal state. In Common Law it is usually a requirement that this claim be false and that the publication is communicated to someone other than the person defamed (the claimant).

These are felonies and your identity can be ascertained through either a subpoena or law enforcement. Think hard -- something most of you are not capable of, else legal exposure is real.

Anonymous said...

Nobody, you go by an anonymous name. No one knows, nor uses, your real name. No one knows who you truly are.

Hence, no legal action can be taken for saying anything about Nobody12378.

However, as many have been the example of in the past (you can google search for stories), people have been tracked down after "anonymous" posting of stock-related panic posts directly attributed to a stock price going down. In all those cases, the subject posted online, assuming they were safe, and were subject to both jail time, and fines from the SEC.

When you cause a company and its shareholders to lose a lot of money from panic posting, action can be taken, especially when it's an American company.

So copying and pasting some legal info about public defamation is useless, as no one is "defaming" the person behind the anonymous title. No one knows who you personally are, and so no one can personally defamate you. Legal actions can NOT be taken for posting something about an anonymous online 'character'.

However, legal actions can CERTAINLY be taken against those who submit panic-posts, and other negative public views for the clear purpose to both scare investors away and drive down the share price. And at that point, when the SEC and Federal government track you down (because they can and would if convicted), would no longer make you anonymous.

And then we can finally "defame" the individual behind the moniker for illegal activity of manipulating the share price, and attributing to our financial losses.

=)

Anonymous said...

it does not matter (to me) if he is bidwacking or not not ---- the possibility of it coupled with his boasting destroys, or exposes, his credibility.

Anonymous said...

Look at the bright side violators save the 15%-25% royalty fee until they loose in court. They file for BK and settle for 10-15 cents on the dollar. very good deal for them.

nobody12378 said...

The only panic that is in evidence here is by the morons who expected to make a quick buck in GERS and found that their expectations are unrequited.

nobody12378 said...

All the bluster, anger, frustration, character assassination, and profanity exhibited here and the moronic disciples cannot get the PPS above 15% of what it used to be BEFORE the LAST R/S. Painful as it may be, perhaps this thrashing should teach them, hard as it may be for them to learn, that the issues here are not the nefarious bid whackers, dastardly posters, mystical MM tricks, sleazy shorters, or the evil oil empire conspiracy -- it is something far more fundamental. Major companies believe in GERS technology, but until that technology is unfettered, until the robber barons of loans are eliminated, until a true corporate governance is established, why, really, why should the PPS move north?

Anonymous said...

Nobody, why are you always defending "dastardly" posters, bid whackers, and shorters?

It's so obvious what you are.

nobody12378 said...

My G'd with the intellect of main stream America dropping so quickly we will become a third world country before you know it. We are enraptured with conspiratorial explanations why our lives have not measured up and we apply that reasoning to our get rich quick stock schemes. Try thinking beyond your ignorance -- just once!

Anonymous said...

i wonder what edition thesaurus nobody is using while typing his responses from his parents basement

nobody12378 said...

The thesaurus of a high school education.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

nobody is the yohoo basher

nobody12378 said...

I am starting to become very concerned about my investment in GERS given the nature of the imbeciles that have been attracted to it. The moronic attraction may say something about the siren appeal. What have I missed?

Anonymous said...

Yes he posts under jjwood123 an many more

Neil said...

I'm glad to see another voice of reason here in addition to Nobody. Meanwhile the rest of the children can't do anything but throw bile and vitriol.

Anonymous said...

good morning neilbody

nobody12378 said...

I rest my case -- they do not know the difference between the indefinite article, "an" , and the conjunction, "and".

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

same one horse gig he uses on yohoo creates identitys to agree with himself

Anonymous said...

nobody is probably still a virgin

Anonymous said...

Neilbody is playing with himself again whats new.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

hahaha lol

Anonymous said...

Anony you're right. "Gers investor" said "cheerleaders" are "blind" with "cloudy vision" all on Nobody's calling card.

Anonymous said...

hahaha lol

Slashnuts said...

NEWS! Zeropoint Update!$!$ 8-6-2012
Remember, GERS owns a percentage of Zeropoint and retains the exclusive rights to deploy the technology in North America.




Base Load Electricity from Biomass Sequesters Carbon and Powers European Grid at Second Location

August 6, 2012

ZeroPoint Clean Tech, Inc. (ZeroPoint) today announced that its second biomass gasification deployment is producing carbon negative heat and power. The second site to achieve successful grid connection is in Newry, Ireland. The first site is operational in Germany.

ZeroPoint's carbon negative process utilizes biomass to create renewable gas and yields biochar as a co-product. Biochar is a highly stable form of sequestered carbon with multiple uses in agriculture and industry. Renewable gas from the ZeroPoint solution is cost competitive with burner tip natural gas in much of the world. The gas in Ireland is combusted in a gas engine to produce power for the local utility grid. The gas and engine also produce useable heat. The ZeroPoint Solution can be deployed to produce renewable synthesis gas used in gas engines, steam boilers, thermal applications, or co-firing with coal, oil, biogas or biomass. The Company is also working to commercialize a patent pending process to upgrade sewage sludge and other low-grade materials for improved gasification and combustion as well as working to convert syngas into liquid hydrocarbons.

"We are very excited to be working on a second successful deployment of an advanced biomass-to-energy solution," said CEO, John Gaus. "We believe that we are currently producing the most stable, steady state and clean gas chemistry from biomass gasification in the world. We fully expect this second project to achieve operational robustness, reliability and commercial profitability."

ZeroPoint is currently working with a number of strategic relationships to assemble and deploy a basket of similar projects across North America and Europe. "Biomass technologies are fundamentally differentiated from wind and solar technologies," said Company Chairman, John Blend. Traditional wind and solar voltaic power are intermittent with weather and nightfall whereas biomass projects deliver base load energy and integrate more easily with utility grids. "We see biomass filling a growing role in renewables as well as delivering highly attractive returns to project investors. I believe, at the moment, we are the only solution provider in the world to enable two, grid-connected, carbon-negative power plants and we plan to empower additional sites in the near future."

http://www.zeropointcleantech.com/news#118

Good Luck To All!$!$!$!$

Anonymous said...

Thanks slash keep it up.

nobody12378 said...

Yup, keep the unrealistic, delusions from becoming an entrance to purgatory.

Slashnuts said...

GERS Deploying Patented Gasification Technology In N. America

ZeroPoint is currently working with a number of strategic relationships to assemble and deploy a basket of similar projects across North America and Europe.

GERS owns the exclusive rights to Zeropoint's patented and patent pending technology in North America.

"The Company is also working to commercialize a patent pending process to upgrade sewage sludge and other low-grade materials for improved gasification and combustion as well as working to convert syngas into liquid hydrocarbons."

This process can takes left over agri-waste, wood chips, even DDG's from the ethanol process and convert it into more fuel.

"We believe that we are currently producing the most stable, steady state and clean gas chemistry from biomass gasification in the world. We fully expect this second project to achieve operational robustness, reliability and commercial profitability."

Gasification is cheaper, more reliable, and runs 24/7, unlike solar and wind. It's also profitable.

"We see biomass filling a growing role in renewables as well as delivering highly attractive returns to project investors. I believe, at the moment, we are the only solution provider in the world to enable two, grid-connected, carbon-negative power plants and we plan to empower additional sites in the near future."

Zeropoint is growing. The technology works. There's nothing else like it in the world. I can't help but wonder who GERS is working with in North America and if it's power plants, waste water plants, ethanol plants or all of the above.

I believe the Zeropoint process is unique and more efficient than anything else out there. They have the two projects to prove it with more on the way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Is6Bf29227Q&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf9Pglc17zk

Good Luck To All!$!$!$

Anonymous said...

Good work slash
F**k off nobody

nobody12378 said...

It is interesting to note that the venom here often is shadowed by the afternoon dilution dump. It is as if the disciples need to strike out at someone who is providing an element of reality when reality smacks them painfully in the their face.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the post Slash, insightful as always.

Anonymous said...

Looking forward to the quarterly report soon to be out.

Anonymous said...

Sales are going up
settlements are happening
best recovery yields
winning court battles
developing new technologies
treble awards climbing daily
probably profitable
Yagi refi on the table

Reality

Anonymous said...

down again today..this could be smart money accumulating....i am smart

nobody12378 said...

Yes sir, we have all that great news and still 25,000 shares were traded as "BUYS" and 325,000 as "SELLS". With good news like this who needs bad news? How long can the PPS stay above a penny with good news like this?

Anonymous said...

I dont know, how long can this stock stay above a penny when you're constantly bashing it and scaring investors away with your panic-posts, theories, multiple identities, and exagerated use of the thesaurus?

Anonymous said...

multiple identities for sure

Anonymous said...

Yes but Friday was 600,000 buys 300,000 sells.

Anonymous said...

So tell me why Greenshift will be awarded treble damages agian? That would be huge.

Anonymous said...

My figures put trebles at 40,000,000 a year.

Anonymous said...

For everybody?

Anonymous said...

I mean for who's being sued. 1/3 are in court with the rest I guess it's 120,000,000 trebles total.

Anonymous said...

Hello, any word on that settlement in Denison?

Anonymous said...

Its a done deal see skunk blog below

Anonymous said...

neilbody123 playing with himself on yohoo he posts jjwood123 an talks to his identity tadaa like were stupid to know

Anonymous said...

saw nobody earlier today beggin for money on the street

nobody12378 said...

Well, I know one thing for sure the voracity of many of the posters here is suspect, at best. They post with absolute certainty about the value of settlements, the immediacy of new financing, etc., and they claim that I have multiple monikers with the same decibel level of authority. Yet, there is only one me, always posting as Nobody here and on IHub, never on Yahoo. Even Slash gave up on that escapade. (I am off Ihub until the new filing is out to prove a point. The PPS has fallen 50% without the advantage of my "poisonous" posts, again proving that the disciples are mired in superstition, and why they will be parted with their hard earned money). Given the last certainty is abysmally inaccurate, you, the newbies, do not be suckered by the other delusional statements as either.

Anonymous said...

Nobody, even though you're not posting your b.s. on iHub, you're still clearly posting.

This blog does have a lot of readers.

Anonymous said...

Your not fooling anyone. We know you post there thats why your so defensive about it. Your a liar.

Reality

nobody12378 said...

I rest my case. The level of voracity of what people "know" and post here belongs to a child.

Anonymous said...

Ha, kind of like how when you post that you "know" the stock is going to go sub-penny and how you post like you "know" every bad thing that is going to happen, when you dont "know" anything and are completely posting theory.

Unless you "know" these because you make them happen? (panic-posts and bid-whacking?)

Anonymous said...

The level of bashing here is indicative of infringers.

Slashnuts said...

Green Plains Weathers Ethanol Storm

“The good thing for (Green Plains) right now is that we have other income,” Becker said. Green Plains expects to bring in $60 million this year from its non-ethanol offshoots."

"In late 2010, Green Plains started extracting corn oil during ethanol production. The oil is sold to biofuel and livestock producers and generates about $35 million in annual operating income."

"Together, those operations should help “soften the blow” the drought could deal to ethanol, Becker said."

"Becker said he expects the company to be back in the black in the fourth quarter because its futures contracts are set at profitable levels."



http://www.omaha.com/article/20120802/MONEY/708029945/1697#green-plains-weathers-storm-in-ethanol-industry

Anonymous said...

nobody is a tranny benny jenny

 
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