Wednesday, September 5, 2012

GERS Motion to Seal Granted

SEE HERE

SkunK

95 comments:

Anonymous said...

For what possible reasons would gers want to seal their opposition yo defendents motion for summary judgement of non -infringement? Why would they hide it from public domain? Is it too simplistic to think it could be a settlement? Jeff

Anonymous said...

Don't think it's a settlement

nobody12378 said...

You are missing the point! This information, which was offered on the web site through Q3 of last year, should be updated for at least two reasons: 1) to provide prospective investors easy access to this important information that provides data on the growth of GERS and, 2)the lack of this information and the out-of-date appearance that this engenders may speak volumes to some about the quality of the company and/or its relationship with investors.

Anonymous said...

Nobody, to your point, i agree with you. If this were a larger company, the lack of updates would be inexcusable. It does not foster confidence by prospective investors. I do not personally think that commons are very high on their priority list right now, and i recognize that. At the same time, this lack of self -promotion is keeping the pps down and allowing me to load up. After all, the company is in a fight for it's survival, i can look past this. I believe the 10q's will speak for themselves in time. As for now, this stock is a wellkept secret from general public, i for one am leveragingthe fact and will continue to buy shares on sale....appreciate your input for perspective..respectfully, Jeff

nobody12378 said...

I agree, but I would caution that I think the rewards are a little more distant. The next several filings will be important as the litigation will continue to percolate into the foreseeable future when all appeals and motions have finally been resolved. I do not think that there will be a settlement where money (awards and damages are paid, acknowledgement of primacy of GERS' technology occurs) changes hands. Thus the SEC filings are so important. But progress has not been monotonic and for each step forward we have seen a step backward in the quarterlies. We must keep forward progress going to stimulate the PPS, otherwise, the litigation success, ignition that many believe is ultimately inevitable, is far on the horizon.

Anonymous said...

You keep harping on the fact that short term prosperity is not imminent. Not everyone here is banking on that. Some of us understand this may take time. You repeat yourself all the time. Not all of us are in our golden years.
Nycdream

Anonymous said...

The pto agrees the patents are GOOD and Icms letter was BS. Icm has NOTHING every thing Icm said is PROVED WRONG !! Judge is gonna slap them like a red headed step child with injunctions + sj.

Anonymous said...

what are you miss cleo? get your crystal ball out you know nothing what this will do if you can predict the future you would be bashing a penny stock your whole life? loser

Anonymous said...

Nobody check the newest patent out. The defenses hopes an dreams of noninfringement went up in smoke.

nobody12378 said...

I think it would be instructive if the Skunk put out a poll about how long the litigation to protect their intellectual property will take. This could be done in a couple of parts: a) current district court adjudication, b) completion of all appeals and motions in this litigation and payment of award and punitive damages, c)the complete end of all such litigation e.g. Poet & Cargill. The range of duration for a) could be several months to several years, for b) several years to more than five years, and for c) five years to more than a decade. The responses to this survey would, in my judgement, indicate for this sample how mistaken and naive most are on the timing here.

nobody12378 said...

There is no new patent, there is a new patent application. And this has nothing to do with ICM's strategy of delaying this litigation beyond GERS' ability to survive. Have you noticed how much longer it is taking this litigation than the Apple/ Samsung litigation? Reason -- Samsung knew that Apple would not fail to survive if they lost; the delaying tactic would be fruitless.

Anonymous said...

Why would they want to delay. Gers is not going out of business plus we will win and damages are building son what's there point

nobody12378 said...

Jeff,

To my point, that there are unrealistic expectations here in terms of timing. Many folks are waiting for September 15th as some sort of "miracle day" to propel the PPS to move north. This is the day that GERS' motion for SJ is due. When that day passes and nothing happens I think that there will be an excellent buying opportunity as some of the folks frustrated with their unrequited expectations will jettison their stock. I am counting on this mindset and behavior to add to my LONG position.

nobody12378 said...

Anony 9:16,

I am afraid that you haven't been paying attention. I know based on direct conversation with several of the principals that they believe that DVG is unrealistic . DVG believes that he is right and that GERS will become insolvent to the point where the common shareholders can no longer keep GERS' head above the YAGI waterline. If you need more insight, you will need to do a lot of reading on your own.

Anonymous said...

^ haha you dont know shit, you didnt talk to anyone, you are nothing nobody

nobody12378 said...

The idiots that populate this comment board says a great deal about the intelligence of some of the people that have been attracted to GERS. The sad commentary is that others reading these unintelligent and inarticulate posts may ascribe this low quality human response to the quality of GERS itself. After all, don't birds of a feather flock together?

Anonymous said...

wellyabutt, unless a mistake is made by the court, summary judgment (for GERS) means we win.
ICM will then have to try to re-explain why it should not liable for (very clearly) pirating another company's technology. right?

nobody12378 said...

Yes, to the district court, then to Appellate Court in DC which has a history of looking at claims construction differently than the district courts. Frequently, (30+ %) the DC court sides with the appellant based on a technical legal issue that has nothing, I repeat, nothing to do with justice. Then there is still the opportunity to motion the Supreme Court to over turn the Appellate Court.

Anonymous said...

Why are you guys feeding this self-inflated egotistical maniac? He lives for what is probably the only real attention he gets on these boards. You will never convince him that someone else may have a valid, true opinion.

As for the Yahoo munchkins, go home to the cesspool you crawled out of.

Anonymous said...

We have an idiot flooding message boards with "informative posts, really important questions, intellectual message board posts, I told you so posts" who invested 7 years ago in GERS that is telling others they are idiots. Man you can't make this up.


6 years ago I already thought you were stark raving nuts but it keeps getting worse with you.



nobody12378 said...

Who the heck needs to be convinced? The only thing that is needed is discourse based upon fact and not supposition. We can agree to disagree on the meaning of those facts. It is unacceptable to treat hopes and wishes as facts and expect to be able have a discourse. Your premise that the outcome of an intellectual engagement must end in one side convincing the other is a perfidious form of nihilism.

Anonymous said...

youre educated ... postulate one potential defect in the claim construction that would favor icm.

Anonymous said...

Nobody,

How much have you lost since you invested in this over 6 years ago? Your anger and frustration still shows how stupid you were and now much more stupid you gotten since then.

Sorry for your mishaps but don't share your misery with others on the board.

Please leave as your opinions are not valued.

Thanks.

Anonymous said...

Oh goody, now that you were proved WRONG on the dilution kick, we get to listen to your "Blackout" crap for the next few months, AGAIN.

Do you realize you've been advocating "long term profitability" for so long that it has actually now become long term?

Anonymous said...

For those of you who don't know the difference between "your" and "you're", why not just type "ur". That way you'll sound "text savvy" and the reader will still get the meaning (even if they don't know the difference either),

Anonymous said...

Perfidious......Ha ha ha! My wife bought some of that last week. It's that perfume with the hidious smell, right?

nobody12378 said...

1) Take a gander at the OS fully, diluted versus the OS basic, before you step into any more fecal waste of self aggrandizement. We will not know who/what is right until we determine what has/will happen to all those other millions of shares.
2) I have known from the inception about the odds of my gamble here. Fully accepting and understanding those odds is something you should try. If you did then the concepts of anger and frustration which are clearly lodged in your limbic system would dissipate.
3) I am not an attorney. My information on the percentage of appeals overturned is based solely on what the Appellate Court considers faulty claims constructions comes from professionals in this field, that work closely with this court. I have previously stated that this is an average over several years and a point estimate does not directly apply to the instant case. GERS will either prevail or it will not -- the outcome is binary. But the 30+ % figure is a measure of risk of failure for GERS at this level and may be what DVG is hanging his company's future on.

Anonymous said...

Read that all before....

Do you keep all these comments in a word processing program so you can just copy and paste over, and over, and over, and over.......?

Anonymous said...

3) seems superficial. statistics do not descend into individual case particulars, i.e., facts. i didnt know you gambled on "odds." thought you were a fact monger --- my mistake. nonetheless glad you havent been able to isolate one (1) single defect.

nobody12378 said...

I am not knowledgeable in this field. My commentary on the quality of the claims construction would have no value as does your attempt to obtain my certification.

Anonymous said...

Nobody,

You still have not answer the question on how much you have lost since you invested in this stock over 6 years ago.

No comment? Wow, that bad. I understand your bashing and misery. Just so you know, you have been figured out.

Sorry!

Anonymous said...

gambling and rebuking objective discourse. dam! had me fooled with that vocabulary. you should be on "talk" radio. or maybe run for office.

nobody12378 said...

I haven't lost a dime, and will not.

Anonymous said...

It's only been 3 weeks since GERS last quarterly report, other than that, they're up to date with the Q1 from May.
Try going to the correct website, or at least how to navigate one and quit spreading false information!

Anonymous said...

I normally wouldn't defend Nobody, but he is right about not losing a dime. I haven't either. You haven't lost or gained a dime unless you sell at a loss or at a gain. Average down or wait it out.

P.S.
Nobody, I still think you are condescending.

by techguess said...

price on 120 min. chart is still tracing out within the widening rectangular box pattern....

does it break above or below?
wish i canoe
glta

Anonymous said...

P.S.
Nobody, I still think you are condescending.

Nobody is NOT condescending.

He just thinks he is the smartest person in the room. Or should I say the entire basement at his mother's house?

Anonymous said...

hey nobody i told u not to go to sanduskys house when you were younger
smh _^_ :(

nobody12378 said...

Anony 11:45,

Or should I say misinformation spreader. Go to the main link "Presentation & Reports". If you can read you will see that there are several links to last year's filings, and just as I previously stated no links at all to any of this years's filings. Condescending crap! Stating facts and getting it right, that is what I am doing. Some one like yourself that is labeling valid statements as falsehoods must be working for the "team".

nobody12378 said...

Jeff,

Looks like we are right on. After the 15th we should be able to get some more bargain basement shares; trend is already emerging today.

Anonymous said...

gambling, rebuking objectivity, and have your head buried in the sand. look out for cat turds down there!

by techguess said...

price on daily is today again below the 9ema....torture continues...

this is BAD price action....strong stocks stay above 9ema for weeks on end....

i am angry....thet is huge dilution today...add the hourly volume bars...you can do the arithmetic yourself..glta

Anonymous said...

youre a waste of time, air and space.

Anonymous said...

that was directed to nobuddy

by techguess said...

ok well thnaks,

i am long....but i am also very angry...i am telling you all that the dilution is occuring each and evert day....just add the hourly volumes, they are double the listed daily volume...that is the number of shares of net dilution...it was huge today about quater million shares...

and since price is eroding we can assume that buyers are not accumulating with out any feeling of urgency...glta

by techguess said...

the only chart positive is on the 120 minute chart....price is still carving out higher lows...that is all the good news i see..

this stock is NOT showing any technical strenght....it must show something very soon or lowere lows are dead ahead...sorry, that is what price IS doing...of course the daily dilution is NOT helping matters at all!!!
glta

Anonymous said...

Nobody,

If you go to "Investor Resources" on the GERS webpage and then click on XBRL Reports you will find the Q1 report from May 2012. If you can't read it in that format, there is a link directly below it to read it at the EDGAR site.
WRONG about the Q2 dilution and WRONG about only last years filings on the website!
No wonder your little friends from yahoo like you so much. You're just like them!

When you ride a bike, you have to......

by techguess said...

somone made a great point on i-hub

samsung/apple infringement settled rapidly due to apples infinite staying power...

but gers is being bled by the lenghty battle which is ICM goal...very very ugly for justice

by techguess said...

bottom line...price is eroding slowly since recent pop....this is just singularily NOT good...

whether price is down due to sellers or dilution is irrelevent...
price going down means and always means in an auction market that accumulation is not keeping up with distribution...that is it....price would go up if demand exceeded the distribution....distribution can be hoders selling or the gers company selling...does not matter,,,glta ...i am a pissed off long

Anonymous said...

Nobody,

Yes you do state facts, over and over and over, but you are also condescending over and over and over.

Condescending: showing or characterized by a patronizing or superior attitude toward others.

Yep, that pretty much sounds like you.

Anonymous said...

Techgues you are babbling, please go and read some good books about charting and markets.
This MB would be to small to do so myself.

But for example that acc. distrb. thing you speak of is untrue. It could take 1 sold share without bid that could disguise millions of bought shares.
Or in the case of a big buyer, you regularly and strategically sell also. No need to drive your own buying price up to much ain't so?

by techguess said...

anony 2;41

hope you are correct...i learned that when accumulation exceeds distribution price goes up in an auction bid/ask market...it is not a mystery as some claim...certainly not magic...

all i am saying is price is going down lately...by definition supply exceeds demand...unless you think gers is special and magical...

by techguess said...

on 30 minute chart lots of green candles....this may be accumulation....no idea

nobody12378 said...

Looking good for picking up some cheap shares after September 15. Superior attitude, only possible when the attitude of those professing wishes and hopes as facts becomes measurable, which it is not.

Anonymous said...

Nobody, can come across as pessimistic, however, we could learn something from his experience. I have been in this stock for about 2.5 years. What i have learned is not to expect anything too soon from the company. I have a very solid core holding.. however i have changed my purchasing strategy, for all who would like to know. Now, i simply purchase $1,000 before end of each quarter to average down, and hope it eventually goes somewhere over the next few years. Of course, i would not be disappointed if something happened sooner, rather than later....Jeff

Anonymous said...

Nobody,
You mean like you wishing and hoping the website contained only SEC filings through Q3 of last year? Sorry Pal, wrong again!

A flower is made up of many of these, one would be a .....

Anonymous said...

Techguess

again I have to disagree with that by definition thing. Painting indicators is not strange to us the public and professional. Because that's what it is just a dot in a x & y axle.
Again an example stocktiger.com sends out break out alerts that really can be traded profitable. The same guy sends out pre-break out alerts to all those with enough charting knowledge, also profitable. And so forth. There are so many algorithms at work that any sustainable method with fantastic results would be traded to death.

Anony 2;41

Anonymous said...

crumb sucker

Anonymous said...

It is being sealed because of gross misconduct detials on the part of several at GS.. That is fact.

nobody12378 said...

Nonsense. Those are GS responses; they would never plead gross misconduct of their employees as a defense. Such a defense is a patent admission of failure and would result in loss of this litigation. Try something believable, there is fertile ground there.

Anonymous said...

how is cleantech entitled to the fees and costs that greenshift common shareholders have paid for, and, where are the fees and costs that cleantech collected from a bogus defense motion accounted for in the SEC filing ???????






Anonymous said...

Nobody,
You mean like you wishing and hoping the website contained only SEC filings through Q3 of last year? Wishing and hoping the dilution number was wrong. Wishing and hoping weren't profitable. Wishing and hoping cargil was infringing. Wishing and hoping they didn't get the new patent 197?

Anonymous said...

You know what they say about fools that can't admit they're wrong?

Anonymous said...

no! wondering instead what your little faggot butt-buddy did with the godam MONEY .

Anonymous said...

GS Cleantech will win this case. Like a lot of cases, there has and will be up's and down's. I've looked at this case and the filings. They will win for sure. I am a patent attorney with 18 years experience. I am investing here. Patrick

nobody12378 said...

Patrick,

Will you please weigh in on all the delaying tactics available for the defendant and the Appellate Court in DC penchant for over ruling the district court's claim construction. Please also provide a range of times for the district court adjudication, finding of award and penalties and then the timetable for the Appellate Court to run its process. Thank you.

Anonymous said...

nobody stfu, stop posting nobody likes u lol

nobody12378 said...

What does "like" have to do with earning money? I'd fire my mother, my wife, and all my children if they were not measuring up to established standards. Your response is absolutely infantile -- "take your ball and bat and go home, nobody likes you". With that level of intelligence exhibited by owners of GERS' stock it is no wonder that legitimate investors stay clear; you are painting our company with your own idiocy.

by techguess said...

well,

is sumpin upp...you fundemental guys know why limbo land has emerged?

glta longs

man i want a big gap up on news i can taste it

Anonymous said...

"I'd fire my mother, my wife, and all my children if they were not measuring up to established standards."

Just a little look into the mind of who is posting constant, argumentative, condescending comments. Nobody, seek help, it may already be too late!

Anonymous said...

Probably his wife left him already for not meeting her standards, who wants a guy glued for years on message boards, saying I was right really, really please believe me otherwise you are an idiot.

by techguess said...

i confidently with no conflict announce that no dilution has occured today!...is dilution over???..who really knows...for sure no buyers either...sumpin up honey?

Anonymous said...

0 Sales for the day and he states with confidence there is no dilution today....Really?!!

What a tool!!

by techguess said...

anony 10;35...humor ass hole...you contribute nutin honey

by techguess said...

zero trades...zero dilution....come on slash or skunk....give us the fundemental news....your killin me!

is it good ..is it real good news...does it smell like victory???

Anonymous said...

ICM FOLDS UNDER PRESSURE! GERS TURNS NEW FOUND OWNERSHIP OF ICM OVER TO YA GLOBAL IN RETURN FOR DEBT FORGIVENESS, PAID IN FULL!

Just thinking outloud.....

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