Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Adkins OK

Court Approves Adkin's Extension HERE

SkunK

43 comments:

Anonymous said...

the 37 is death sentence to defendents everybody knows it even vander camp

Anonymous said...

Good morning,
Accordong to my brothers friend who was right about the settlement victory, US patent 037 will force more settlements. He described it like the last leg of the defense being sawed off and burned.
Franky D

Anonymous said...

The defendents are simply delaying things, waiting until they all convert to the AOS ICM system to claim they are operating under the ICM patent and not the GERS patent.

Anonymous said...

Question for Skunk. What if patent invalidity opinions have been written finding the 037 patent in question and allow the plants to operate free from treble damages and willful intent, would Greenshift have to bring a whole new round of legal actions against those that are infringing?

Anonymous said...

Anony 9:08... even if they all convert to ICM's POS.. I mean AOS system, they still need a centrifugal system prior to that process. Any centrifugal system for extracting or seperating corn oil would infringe with GreenShift's patents.

So even if they add on the ICM AOS system, they'll still be infringing, unless they license the centrifugal process with GreenShift's Method 1 system. But at that point, they'd be better off using the Method 2 system also, and produce far higher yield than any of ICM's systems.

Anonymous said...

Icm 1/2# Gs 1-1/3# end of story

Anonymous said...

I don't think ICM patent will stand. It's invalid

Anonymous said...

This is why the language "substancially oil free" is so important. The ICM AOS takes a slurry with most of the oil still in it, adds ethanol as an emulsion breaker and then separates the oil fraction by settling or mechanical means, "without heating". Ethanol is then flashed off and recovered. The '037' does nothing to stop this.

Anonymous said...

The ICM patent is obvious.

Anonymous said...

The AOS does nothing to stop the 037. Years of infringement will BK ICM.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

i thought the ethanol was heated, thus heating the emulsion when combined.

have to go back and look again ...

Anonymous said...

looks like heat to me; claims 3 and 9.
they concentrate, heat and recover.

Anonymous said...

this is a greater investment as the share price gets lower....i cannot wait until it goes back to say .01 or even .001 or even .0001

we will all be rich..light my cigar

Anonymous said...

my guess is that adding ethanol brings the moisture % back up to within COES parameters.

Anonymous said...

looks like fuel ethanol is roughly 95% ethanol and 5% water (hmmmm). mix in a solution that has roughly 30% water and what do you get?

Anonymous said...

Moonshine lol

Anonymous said...

what is it good for to give your opponent more time to answer?
maybe they are negotiating an settlement right now and don't want to spoil it with the judge at all by not answering in time...
I can't get another reasonable cause. at this stage of litigation no gifts can be made without reason... more time means more money to be lost.

m2a

Anonymous said...

My guess is 90% or more of the opinions offered on this blog are pretty much worthless when compared to the reality of the situation. Just a guess however.

Anonymous said...

ok, then tell us your truth...
make an educated guess...
please.

Anonymous said...

Anony 3:44- Our opinions are based on what information we have available. To the best of my knowledge, my oppinions are relatively accurate, as they're based on known information.

Of course, there may be unknown information that can change the outcomes of things, but none of that information is public knowledge.

Looking at the patents, reading them for what they say, and comparing that information to the actions of the litigants, we can make pretty accurate assumptions as to what SHOULD happen. But in the end, it comes down to a person (judge) making a decision. If that judge is going on the same information we all have available, than I can assume my opinions are more valuable than simply a guess.

Only time will tell.

Anonymous said...

they better win...gers is having trouble finding buyers for the fresh share dilution...if this works out those buyers down here will do way better than the long term R/S common holders

Anonymous said...

is it still too late to short this?

Anonymous said...

I'm going to say a combination of yes it's too late.. and I sure hope so.

Anonymous said...

sub penny....death ahead

Anonymous said...

Your a loser
Stock learner

Anonymous said...

Anony 1:50- I can only assume you're a shorter since you're clearly trying to scare people with a panic post.

I suggest reading up on the SEC's regulations about that and remembering just because you're "anonymous", the internet providers still automatically record IP addresses, computer ID's, and router information specifically to pinpoint computer locations in investigations.

Watch what you post before committing a felony.

All though I don't see GERS going subpenny (even though its close), if it does, it is certainly not "death ahead". Stop trying to scare current and potential investors with your nonsense.

Anonymous said...

you are nieve...there is no support, what so ever, for the price....you are misleading people into complacency....you are in legal jepardy

Anonymous said...

If that was the case, GERS would have been subpenny a long time ago. Obviously there's support.

Anonymous said...

is adkins going to settle? why else is Gs giving more time?

Anonymous said...

I was thinking the same thing.
If there were no talks of settlement or something similar, than it is a disadvantage to the plaintiff to allow a defendant more time to argue their side.

I can't imagine any plaintiff in any case saying "They're illegally infringing our patents, couldn't come up with a good argument in time, but I'd like to hear what they think, so let's give them more time to come up with a convincing argument."

That just wouldn't make sense.

I'm liking the possibilities here.

Anonymous said...

Don't jump the gun fellas.
There is a lot of gamesmanship that goes on with these cases

Anonymous said...

translation of todays price action...less than 10,000 shares trading associated with a nearly 20% price collapse....sys no buyers out there....

no accumulation is the same as distribution in a company printing fresh shares....there is no price support what so ever...you goanna sue me over price volume analysisi?

Anonymous said...

the question is...will gers stop issuing shares to end the price erosion and hold the .01 price as sacrosaint

Anonymous said...

so is the company done with dilution and now looking for an alternative for surviving the legal time lines...

Anonymous said...

I hope so.. 3:30pm and no "dilution dump" yet.

Anonymous said...

Why haven't you guys made your presence known on Investors Hangout? Spread the word about GreenShift.

Anonymous said...

When we spread the word about GreenShift, basher's and shorters intervene with both multiple posts and multiple accounts/ identities spreading garbage about reverse splits, going private, and endless dilution.

And you can't usually comment back because generally one of the board's moderators is a basher, and will delete anything that goes against what their friends say.

You also can't personally attack anyone no matter how negative they are and how many panic-posts they put out to drop the share price.. you're post will get deleted, while there nonsense stays up for any potential investor to see and get scared away.

I have tried spreading the word. I know many others that have also. If you check boards like iHub very often like I do, you'll see great posts and arguments against bashers, but they get deleted quickly.

The bashers and shorters are the only voices that seem to be heard.
You can make up the worst lies about the company and have that post remain for everyone to see. But try defending the company, and for one reason or another, the post will get deleted.

It's a shame.

Anonymous said...

Investor Hangout is the fastest growing stock message board in the World right now for a reason, that nonsense doesn't happen there. Numbers don't lie http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/http://www.investorshangout.com

Anonymous said...

That might be a good site, that you obviously work for, but numbers can lie.
I use to own a few websites.. for $400 I paid a specialized company to bring my Glboal Alexa score from about 7,000,000 down to around 200,000. And that was only with their $400 plan.

You're demographic is mostly U.S., so it's safe to assume you're site is genuinely popular, but just wanted to mention that numbers can in fact lie. Some businesses specialize in it.

Anonymous said...

It's 100% natural and Google Crawls the site three times a day.

It would be nice to see Skunk or Slashnuts become the moderator, especially seeing they'd have complete control of their board there.

Have a great weekend!
Joe

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