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Project Manager, 2006-08 Greenshift Ethanol Conf Attendee, Alparetta, GA - About 28 years old
Rachael is a 1994 Graduate of Lakeside, a private Prep school in Seattle, WA. Rachael is a graduate of The University of the South, with a cum laude bachelor's degree in biological psychology and minors in fine arts and philosophy. One time IBM site designer, worked on Macy's e-commerce site and the redesign of the NYSE site. Founder of Kissykat and Candent Corp. As of March 31, 2008, the Company (GERS) owed Candent Corporation $757,853 (the "Candent Note"). The former president of Candent is the wife of the Company's chairman. All of the issued and outstanding capital stock held by Candent is in trust for the benefit of its former president. The note payable to Candent shall bear interest at a rate of 10% per year and matures November 8, 2010. (P. 21 1st Quarter)
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- 17 Aug 2004 Clean Tech filed first COES Provisional Patent Application “050”
- 2004 Inventors Disclosed Technology to ICM. ICM executed Confidentiality Agreement. ICM purchases two authorized COES.p3
- June 2005: Westfalia is still "developing" COES technology while ICM is finally installing the two COES bought from the Inventors the year before
- 2005 The Inventors invited Ethanol manufacturers to symposium to hear about COES – 30% attended.(SkunK's idea on which one)
- 5 May 2005 Clean Tech filed first COES Non-Provisional Patent Application “859”
- 23 Feb 2006 '858 patent publication date.
- 23 Feb 2006 '729 publication date
- 6 May 2009 GERS receives Notice of Allowance for first Patents
- U.S. Patent 7,601,858 issued 13 Oct 2009
- U.S. Patent 7,608,729 issued 27 Oct 2009
- 16 Feb 2010 Notice Of Allowance Issued For Third GreenShift Corn Oil Extraction Patent
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CHAIRMAN of the GERS BOARD
Mr Kevin Kreisler maintains his GERS stock through his holding company: Viridis Capital, LLC. Mr. Kreisler is a graduate of Rutgers University College of Engineering (B.S., Civil and Environmental Engineering, 1994), Rutgers University Graduate School of Management (M.B.A., 1995), and Rutgers University School of Law (J.D., 1997). Served as the Company’s vice president from 1998 to 2000, president from 2000 to 2002, chief executive officer from 2002 to 2005 and has served as the Company’s chairman from 2005 to the present. Admitted to practice law in New Jersey and the United States District Court for the District of New Jersey. Kevin Kreisler is the sole owner of Viridis Capital LLC; GreenSpace Capital, LLC; Incandent Capital, L.L.C. Mr. Kevin Kreisler is about 37 years old.
"Roots" of Greenshift
- Greenshift Corp - until present
- GS Clean Tech Corp - until 2-2008 - 1-50 Reverse Split 12Dec2007
- VERIDIUM CORP until 7-2006
- KBF Pollution Management Inc from 3-1996 until 10-2003 - 1-20 Reverse Split 21Oct03
- KBF Pollution Control Inc 1984-1996
- Kreisler Bags - then - Kreisler Bags and Filtration 1979-1984 (hence "KBF" above)
Technicians and Magicians Behind the Curtain
David Fred Cantrell - Graduate of the University of Georgia where he received a Masters Degree in Poultry Science and Statistics. Co-inventor of COE technology with Dave Winsness. Started: Cantrell Winsness Technologies LLC. Next: CEO of Mean Green Biodiesel. Works out of One Penn Plaza, NY?
Dan Lester - Project Manager, GS CleanTech. Past: Warnecke Design Engineer 2004-2007; Imagetech Inc. Engineer 2001-2004. Education: Devry University EET, Electronics Engineering, 1998 — 2001
Patrick Bush - GreenShift’s Vice President of Biodiesel Technology
Dan Page - Attended 2008 Ethanol Conference for Greenshift Corp from Alpharetta, GA.
Dan Saltzman - Controller Greenshift Corporation
Past: 2001 — 2004 Assistant Controller, New York Mortgage;
1989 — 2000 Assistant Vice President Financial Reporting, Scudder; 1984 — 1997 Bucknell University
Jacqueline Flynn - Controller of GreenShift Corporation since 2006. She is the Chief Financial Officer (CFO) and Chief Accounting Officer for ESYM/ADRN. She is also the CFO for CICS. She has twenty years experience in financial accounting for both public and private companies.
Mary J. Carroll - Worked in GreenShift Administration since at least December of 2003. Presently GreenShift Vice President of Administration.
John W. Davis - John "Whit" Davis, has a B.S. in Civil Engineering from the U.S. Coast Guard Academy and an M.B.A from Boston University. GS CleanTech's new Vice President of Operations (as of PR 22 Jan '07), has a broad base of diversified management, engineering, operational and business development experience. Mr. Davis led the deployment of GS CleanTech's existing Corn Oil Extraction System installations at Little Sioux Corn Processors and Glacial Lakes Energy. Most recently in his career, Mr. Davis was the technical director for special projects at Vortex Dehydration Technology, where he led product design, development and implementation for many applications of the technologies underlying GS CleanTech's Tornado Generator[TM]. Mr. Davis holds the rank of Lt. Commander as a reservist with the U.S. Coast Guard. (One of four original COES Inventors.)
Dan Lester - Project Manager, GS CleanTech. Past: Warnecke Design Engineer 2004-2007; Imagetech Inc. Engineer 2001-2004. Education: Devry University EET, Electronics Engineering, 1998 — 2001
Patrick Bush - GreenShift’s Vice President of Biodiesel Technology
Dan Page - Attended 2008 Ethanol Conference for Greenshift Corp from Alpharetta, GA.
Dan Saltzman - Controller Greenshift Corporation
Past: 2001 — 2004 Assistant Controller, New York Mortgage;
1989 — 2000 Assistant Vice President Financial Reporting, Scudder; 1984 — 1997 Bucknell University
Jacqueline Flynn - Controller of GreenShift Corporation since 2006. She is the Chief Financial Officer (CFO) and Chief Accounting Officer for ESYM/ADRN. She is also the CFO for CICS. She has twenty years experience in financial accounting for both public and private companies.
Mary J. Carroll - Worked in GreenShift Administration since at least December of 2003. Presently GreenShift Vice President of Administration.
John W. Davis - John "Whit" Davis, has a B.S. in Civil Engineering from the U.S. Coast Guard Academy and an M.B.A from Boston University. GS CleanTech's new Vice President of Operations (as of PR 22 Jan '07), has a broad base of diversified management, engineering, operational and business development experience. Mr. Davis led the deployment of GS CleanTech's existing Corn Oil Extraction System installations at Little Sioux Corn Processors and Glacial Lakes Energy. Most recently in his career, Mr. Davis was the technical director for special projects at Vortex Dehydration Technology, where he led product design, development and implementation for many applications of the technologies underlying GS CleanTech's Tornado Generator[TM]. Mr. Davis holds the rank of Lt. Commander as a reservist with the U.S. Coast Guard. (One of four original COES Inventors.)
Christopher Kennedy
Project Manager, 2006-08 Greenshift Ethanol Conf Attendee, Alparetta, GA - About 28 years old
Public History of the Keisler Family
The lovely Mrs. Rachael Kreisler
Rachael is a 1994 Graduate of Lakeside, a private Prep school in Seattle, WA. Rachael is a graduate of The University of the South, with a cum laude bachelor's degree in biological psychology and minors in fine arts and philosophy. One time IBM site designer, worked on Macy's e-commerce site and the redesign of the NYSE site. Founder of Kissykat and Candent Corp. As of March 31, 2008, the Company (GERS) owed Candent Corporation $757,853 (the "Candent Note"). The former president of Candent is the wife of the Company's chairman. All of the issued and outstanding capital stock held by Candent is in trust for the benefit of its former president. The note payable to Candent shall bear interest at a rate of 10% per year and matures November 8, 2010. (P. 21 1st Quarter)
Kreisler Family Involved in GERS
Lawrence M. Kreisler - Lawrence is the sole owner of Serenity Capital, LLC. Built Kreisler Bags, then Kreisler Bags and Filters, then KBF Pollution Control Inc., then KBF Pollution Management Inc. After 1-20 R/S Sept2003 company was taken over by Veridium Corp in Oct2003, controlled by son Kevin. Resigned, effective December 31, 2003, as an officer and director of Veridium Corporation. Continued to work at Veridium's Paterson, New Jersey based recycling facility, that was designed on recycling technologies he invented. His employment was terminated in July 2004 due to irreconcilable philosophical differences in how to best operate and grow that facility. Bronze Parachute included: 100 percent of his salary of $150,000 through December 31, 2004 and 50 percent of his salary through December 31, 2006. Medical benefits until the age of 65. Lawrence is about 61 years old.
Scott Kreisler - Scott is the sole owner of Cyrus Capital, LLC. Brother of Kevin Kreisler, listed as a Beneficial Owner of Veridium Corporation on 4/2/2002 SEC filings. The 2005 annual report also says: "During 2005, Scott Kreisler, brother of Kevin Kreisler, received salaries of $72,700. Scott Kreisler no longer works for the Company." In February 2006, Cyrus Capital, LLC, purchased from GCS Investments $500,000 in convertible debt issuedby GS Clean Tech. During the period ended March 31, 2006, Cyrus effected conversions totaling $280,000, corresponding to 14,000,000 shares of the Company's common stock. During the second quarter 2006 Cyrus effected additional conversions totaling $120,000 into a total of 6,000,000 shares of the Company's common stock.
Kathi A. Kreisler From a 3/30/2001 filing: Kathi Kreisler is a Co-founder of VERIDIUM CORPORATION and served as its President from 1984 through December 1994. She has been a director since March 1984. In January 1995, Ms. Kreisler became vice president, secretary and treasurer of Veridium Corporation. From 1979 to 1984, Ms. Kreisler was a principal in Kreisler Bags and Filtration, Inc., which name was subsequently changed to KBF Pollution Management, Inc. Ms. Kreisler is the wife of Lawrence Kreisler and is the mother of Kevin and Scott Kreisler. During 2005, Kathi Kreisler received salaries of $33,750. During December of 2005, Kathi Kreisler received 3,806,811 shares of the Company's common stock as a settlement of all severance liabilities.
MIF During the first quarter 2008, Minority Interest Fund (II), LLC ("MIF") acquired the Kerns $1,000,000 Debenture. In February 2008, MIF subsequently fully converted this debenture at the rate of $0.16 per share into 6,875,000 shares of Company common stock. The managing member of MIF is a relative of Kevin Kreisler. (p. 23 1st Qtr Rpt)
Scott Kreisler - Scott is the sole owner of Cyrus Capital, LLC. Brother of Kevin Kreisler, listed as a Beneficial Owner of Veridium Corporation on 4/2/2002 SEC filings. The 2005 annual report also says: "During 2005, Scott Kreisler, brother of Kevin Kreisler, received salaries of $72,700. Scott Kreisler no longer works for the Company." In February 2006, Cyrus Capital, LLC, purchased from GCS Investments $500,000 in convertible debt issuedby GS Clean Tech. During the period ended March 31, 2006, Cyrus effected conversions totaling $280,000, corresponding to 14,000,000 shares of the Company's common stock. During the second quarter 2006 Cyrus effected additional conversions totaling $120,000 into a total of 6,000,000 shares of the Company's common stock.
Kathi A. Kreisler From a 3/30/2001 filing: Kathi Kreisler is a Co-founder of VERIDIUM CORPORATION and served as its President from 1984 through December 1994. She has been a director since March 1984. In January 1995, Ms. Kreisler became vice president, secretary and treasurer of Veridium Corporation. From 1979 to 1984, Ms. Kreisler was a principal in Kreisler Bags and Filtration, Inc., which name was subsequently changed to KBF Pollution Management, Inc. Ms. Kreisler is the wife of Lawrence Kreisler and is the mother of Kevin and Scott Kreisler. During 2005, Kathi Kreisler received salaries of $33,750. During December of 2005, Kathi Kreisler received 3,806,811 shares of the Company's common stock as a settlement of all severance liabilities.
MIF During the first quarter 2008, Minority Interest Fund (II), LLC ("MIF") acquired the Kerns $1,000,000 Debenture. In February 2008, MIF subsequently fully converted this debenture at the rate of $0.16 per share into 6,875,000 shares of Company common stock. The managing member of MIF is a relative of Kevin Kreisler. (p. 23 1st Qtr Rpt)
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Note: I am a shareholder - I do not work for, nor do I receive any direct or indirect payment from GERS or anyone associated with them. (But it would be Kapitalist Kool if I did) I will not intentionally mislead - but I can be wrong (ask Mrs. SkunK for specific frequencies) - so do your own due diligence - and take responsibility for your own financial decisions – (and your own life in general) good or bad. I do not give financial advice - I let you look at my dd as I try to make sense of it all and make MY decisions. Make your own! I have been rightfully accused of being a rather cheery, positive individual who laughs at every opportunity. These tendencies may cause me to overlook deficiencies in this stock that are painfully obvious to others. Celebrate today - and some good garage logic luck to ya.
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Disclaimer for those who need additional clarification. . .
My beliefs and the financial strategies discussed on this site are not to be used without proper financial analysis of your personal situation. Better yet, you do not have my permission to use them at all. I strongly suggest you seek help of a financial advisor or, even better, a Certified Financial Planner in order to assist you in any financial planning. I am not selling or advising you to buy any financial products. I am not selling or advising you to buy this stock or any other stock! I am just blogging about one of my favourite subjects! This is a hobby for me and should only be entertainment for you. You may analyse my opinions and determine if they suit you or not. I hope that your personal finance path to your goals will be covered with success and profit. Enjoy your reading.
Additional Disclaimer for the real knukleheads . . . .
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SkunK's Public Library; Magazine Section
- June 2008 Bio-Diesel Mag - New Bio-Diesel method that can use corn oil
- Marion (3rd COE) site and COE/Biodiesel
- Dr. Bayless explains Algae process he sold to Greenshift
- Our Algae slime is 94% starch and 6% oil
- and the super "algae" comes from Yellowstone
- Biodiesel Nov 2006 - The Matchmaker
- Forbes Dan Fisher Article
- Distillers Grain Quarterly - 2007 1st Quarter - "COE Opens New Markets"
35 comments:
Skunk,
Do you have any comments about the apparent disconnect between documented corn oil licensee revenue and reported GERS' revenue?
Skunk,
The outcome of the litigation is important. But, the most authoritative estimates indicate that there is a two to three year window before any money changes hands in this litigation IF GERS prevails at all levels. IF the revenues of our licensees do not translate into revenue for GERS and the business is as bad as the filings make it appear, what do you think is the likelihood that GERS will survive until they can get the cash that they desperately need to pay off debt, end dilution, and increased their market share?
Another way of asking this is how many R/Ss do you envision will occur in the next two to three years given their current revenue and cash needs?
This has not been the circle jerk phase of price collapse....That lies ahaead....
Buy it up BEFORE those institutions drive the price up to the stratosphere
Nobody, what do you mean by the business being bad? They have nailed all of their targets for over 2 years running now. Everything came in as or better than targeted. Gpre, sun, biof, ande, etc. The q1 numbers are consistent with that progress with the exception of the large litigation expense.
The only "bad" thing is that the revenue is off what everyone hoped it would be. The company set no revenue targets and the lower amount can be partly explained by producer scale back and ongoing construction. But I think most of what we are seeing is the result of the infringement. The infringement and litigation is effecting everyone, including pricing for gers and its shareholders. If true, then the revenue everyone is looking for just gets paid later in the form of damages.
None of us are here unless the tech has value. Patents don't have value unless they can be used to prevent infringement. That means litigation. Say what you might, but the fundamentals and block and tackling deserve a higher price today. They need ya paid off, they need to eliminate all remaining debt and preferred, and they need progress in the litigation.
looks like somebody's absent mindedness contributed to costs. wonder if he will contribute payment.
Why would anyone trust someone who claims to have owned stock for the last 6yrs. and bash the piss out of it everyday. Making false allegations of bankruptcy and cooking the books and who knows what else. Its obvious the only investment he has here is as a basher with short sale interest. If anyone feels the way he ddoes about this stock they would have sold along time ago and would have counted their losses and been done with it instead of keep dumping money in this stock and incurring greater losses. He's not the sharpest tool in the shed and his followers are even duller as they believe his lies.
I think he is using insider information as well as a few other shorters. None of wich will answer totals questions. They avoid them like the plague. And isn't it convenient how they lead up to 1q with their spill of the os being what it is and then shorted the day after causing a panic sell off.
Greenshift has a lot going for it and I doubt we go to the end of the year without some really big news that will send this stock into the stratosphere. We saw a good gain yesterday despite 88% short sales and we will probably see .04 - .05 befor weeks end as investors realize the tremendous value here and the ones who got duped buy back in. It really wouldn't surprise me if we didn't climb all the way back up to .10 a share
Even if by years end we hit 50mil os it would still be a bargain at under $1.00 as sales will continue to increase. And I wouldn't worry about yagi as any banker will tell you they would rather have someone paying the interest every year than they would have someone that pays them off. But don't worry about that either as greenshift will soon have funds to pay off all their debtors.
JMHO an investment banker.
GS has very little chance of prevailing I'm this case. They really screwed up in the early days of the timeline and with that all patents will overturned imo. Bankruptcy is best option for the owners, not so good for the stockholders of course. Would allow them to salvage something of the company.
Anony (they always are) 6:13 -- open your eyes and keep your mouth closed. Other wise the misleading garbage and fabricated fantasies will keep spilling out.
Yep, your only hope is to run to the top of the tallest building and jump. Wait, that isn't fast enough. Anything above the 4th floor will do as long as the ground is cement. Leave a note and tell your dependents to sell GERS!!!
WAIT!!!! Put the SELL ORDER in and then JUMP!!!
Panic posting is funny. Panic posting and then claiming you are only seeking the truth is really funny.
"Bankruptcy is best option" Hahahaha, shorts are funny! Fear and Greed. Your not looking for information, only to instill fear. Anyone with an ounce of testosterone can see that.
It's obvious he's the yohoo basher either a shorter or infringer
It is now known that Anony 6:13, contrary to public pledges otherwise, goes by the moniker Totaltruth elsewhere. Hard to hide that depth of fantasy and conspiratorial world view.
If you notice how defensive he gets when someone (like my previous post) refers to short sales, and considering his constant bashing, I truly believe he's a short seller.
Or at the least, bought in very early, and to make up for it and still profit he's both averaging down and short selling.
It's one thing for someone to ask good questions. But it's a completely different situation to make false alegations with no backing beyond their imagination.
And I understand if he truly feels his questions are valid,and that he has to make up theories to convince himself that he might be right, but then why defend the short sellers at the same time?
Notice in all his replies to short selling posts, he also has a sarcastic remark such as when he replied to my post to stop looking for excuses based on "the dastardly shorters". Anyone that is not a short seller knows the moral implications and negative effects it can have on a stock.
And if someone truly cared about the sliding stock price, why would they not atleast include short selling as part of the problem instead of just dismissing it entirely?
I can also question revenues, and support the plausibility of multiple reasons and explanations, but I also believe short selling is a major contributor to the problem.
I'm not here constantly spouting and saying that short sales have no bad effect and the share price problem is entirely based on shady business practices.
I'm not saying that, because, well, I'm not a short seller.
I have nothing to defend.
Investaholic
One SMALL flaw in your "logic"; 20 x 50 x 1000 = 1,000,000! I have been with GERS more than six years, through three R/S. A dollar of today's stock would have been valued at $1,000,000 when I join this gambit. If you are right I am an extremely rich man; and rich men would not be here playing with the tortured likes of you or this suffering penny stock.
Go play in another sand box, most of the folks here are too bright for you to be able to through sand in their eyes.
OOPS! We throw sand and drive through it.
He complains about the chorus, yet he is just a heckler. Shouting nonsense about the chorus is not providing information. Repeating other people's DD is not some noble cause. Panic Posting is not truth telling.
Yes revenues were not as high as some expected it and built them up to be. The arithmetic is pretty simple with only a few variables. Everyone can see that. No heavy lifting required. No genius required to tell us the obvious. Close the doors to your temple and leave the pagen oracle alone.
nobody123 is a idiot he haunts yahoo with jjwood123 and countless other names there AND ihub. Don't be fooled otherwise with another computer and server he works the ihub and his alter egos are obvious
This idiot has made every call in the last two years, everyone! But that is OK I like the anonymity (that is not the same as anonymous). Any one remember who stated, without qualification, that the ASK price would be three cents a week after the Q1 was filed? Anyone? Let's see, the ASK is 0.03 today and it is exactly one week post Q1 release. If I were keeping score, which I am not, that makes it 10 for 10 in the last two years; who needs fantasy "DD" with a record like that?
like clockwork the yahoo idiot has to have the last word ONLY any idiot claims a perfect record of losing WHAT kind of idiot preidcts lower stock prices then BUYs at the higher prices and brags of a perfect record when stocks lower? Only any IDIOT predicts lower prices buys higher an brags about being a loser WHAT a moron
BTW.....according to my broker the correct pronunciation is Greenshit!
like clockwork the yahoo idiot has to have the last word ONLY any idiot claims a perfect record of losing WHAT kind of idiot preidcts lower stock prices then BUYs at the higher prices and brags of a perfect record when stocks lower? Only any IDIOT predicts lower prices buys higher an brags about being a loser WHAT a moron
I have been wrong in the short run here and lost some paper money. Nobody is perfect in his predictions yet claims to have lost money. So who is the idiot?
I put my money where my mouth is. Nobody buys and claims to have predicted the price is going down. Whatever "that" is, that is NOT smart.
If I had 2 or 3 different accounts, could I whack my own bid a drive the price down to where I want on low volume days?
Works for me!
don't over think it....this is a 2 billion dollar company...buy it at say two or three cents and just ride it up to 60 70 dollars,,,,just that simple..glta
Works for me three.
Or give your investment amount to your favorite charity....you will sleep better at night.
"This idiot has made every call in the last two years, everyone!"
Did you get rich, Idiot?
no settlement?
how about no damages if everyone licenses.
gers business doubles overnight.
cash for debt.
cash for next round of litigation.
news sends pps to da moon.
It boils down to YAGI if they don't refinance Gers is done..... So we know at the end of the year because that means the case is going good if they get a new deal Another R/s kills them and any investor support with how investors are being treated now kevie kev is toast
Done, as in bankrupt, as in loan foreclosed ? Be careful you will soon be burned at the stake for stating the possible by those that refuse to believe in the possible.
Some like burnt steak but because they asked for it thats what they get for replying to themself
Nobody - have or are you in fact shorting gers?
Yes I am I already told you this under my jjwood123 name
This is so much fun -- note that the imitators do not have the official blog crest beside the post. This is the sincerest form of flattery.
Guess some folks are lashing out at any body but the right person for the miserable performance of GERS.
The right person -- themselves.
Ve vill vind you! Ve vant our money vack you vittle turd burglar Ve vill do vhatever vit takes to track you down and vind you! Ve have one case of Vodka von von you!
Ve vill ve victorious !
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