Sunday, May 20, 2012

Litigation Update

GERS Response to ICM's complaint

More GERS response to ACE and GEA concerning '517 patent

SkunK

35 comments:

nobody12378 said...

Skunk,

Do you have any comments about the apparent disconnect between documented corn oil licensee revenue and reported GERS' revenue?

nobody12378 said...

Skunk,

The outcome of the litigation is important. But, the most authoritative estimates indicate that there is a two to three year window before any money changes hands in this litigation IF GERS prevails at all levels. IF the revenues of our licensees do not translate into revenue for GERS and the business is as bad as the filings make it appear, what do you think is the likelihood that GERS will survive until they can get the cash that they desperately need to pay off debt, end dilution, and increased their market share?

Another way of asking this is how many R/Ss do you envision will occur in the next two to three years given their current revenue and cash needs?

Anonymous said...

This has not been the circle jerk phase of price collapse....That lies ahaead....

Buy it up BEFORE those institutions drive the price up to the stratosphere

Anonymous said...

Nobody, what do you mean by the business being bad? They have nailed all of their targets for over 2 years running now. Everything came in as or better than targeted. Gpre, sun, biof, ande, etc. The q1 numbers are consistent with that progress with the exception of the large litigation expense.

The only "bad" thing is that the revenue is off what everyone hoped it would be. The company set no revenue targets and the lower amount can be partly explained by producer scale back and ongoing construction. But I think most of what we are seeing is the result of the infringement. The infringement and litigation is effecting everyone, including pricing for gers and its shareholders. If true, then the revenue everyone is looking for just gets paid later in the form of damages.

None of us are here unless the tech has value. Patents don't have value unless they can be used to prevent infringement. That means litigation. Say what you might, but the fundamentals and block and tackling deserve a higher price today. They need ya paid off, they need to eliminate all remaining debt and preferred, and they need progress in the litigation.

Anonymous said...

looks like somebody's absent mindedness contributed to costs. wonder if he will contribute payment.

Anonymous said...

Why would anyone trust someone who claims to have owned stock for the last 6yrs. and bash the piss out of it everyday. Making false allegations of bankruptcy and cooking the books and who knows what else. Its obvious the only investment he has here is as a basher with short sale interest. If anyone feels the way he ddoes about this stock they would have sold along time ago and would have counted their losses and been done with it instead of keep dumping money in this stock and incurring greater losses. He's not the sharpest tool in the shed and his followers are even duller as they believe his lies.
I think he is using insider information as well as a few other shorters. None of wich will answer totals questions. They avoid them like the plague. And isn't it convenient how they lead up to 1q with their spill of the os being what it is and then shorted the day after causing a panic sell off.
Greenshift has a lot going for it and I doubt we go to the end of the year without some really big news that will send this stock into the stratosphere. We saw a good gain yesterday despite 88% short sales and we will probably see .04 - .05 befor weeks end as investors realize the tremendous value here and the ones who got duped buy back in. It really wouldn't surprise me if we didn't climb all the way back up to .10 a share
Even if by years end we hit 50mil os it would still be a bargain at under $1.00 as sales will continue to increase. And I wouldn't worry about yagi as any banker will tell you they would rather have someone paying the interest every year than they would have someone that pays them off. But don't worry about that either as greenshift will soon have funds to pay off all their debtors.
JMHO an investment banker.

Anonymous said...

GS has very little chance of prevailing I'm this case. They really screwed up in the early days of the timeline and with that all patents will overturned imo. Bankruptcy is best option for the owners, not so good for the stockholders of course. Would allow them to salvage something of the company.

nobody12378 said...

Anony (they always are) 6:13 -- open your eyes and keep your mouth closed. Other wise the misleading garbage and fabricated fantasies will keep spilling out.

Anonymous said...

Yep, your only hope is to run to the top of the tallest building and jump. Wait, that isn't fast enough. Anything above the 4th floor will do as long as the ground is cement. Leave a note and tell your dependents to sell GERS!!!

WAIT!!!! Put the SELL ORDER in and then JUMP!!!

Panic posting is funny. Panic posting and then claiming you are only seeking the truth is really funny.

"Bankruptcy is best option" Hahahaha, shorts are funny! Fear and Greed. Your not looking for information, only to instill fear. Anyone with an ounce of testosterone can see that.

Anonymous said...

It's obvious he's the yohoo basher either a shorter or infringer

nobody12378 said...

It is now known that Anony 6:13, contrary to public pledges otherwise, goes by the moniker Totaltruth elsewhere. Hard to hide that depth of fantasy and conspiratorial world view.

Anonymous said...

If you notice how defensive he gets when someone (like my previous post) refers to short sales, and considering his constant bashing, I truly believe he's a short seller.

Or at the least, bought in very early, and to make up for it and still profit he's both averaging down and short selling.

It's one thing for someone to ask good questions. But it's a completely different situation to make false alegations with no backing beyond their imagination.

And I understand if he truly feels his questions are valid,and that he has to make up theories to convince himself that he might be right, but then why defend the short sellers at the same time?

Notice in all his replies to short selling posts, he also has a sarcastic remark such as when he replied to my post to stop looking for excuses based on "the dastardly shorters". Anyone that is not a short seller knows the moral implications and negative effects it can have on a stock.

And if someone truly cared about the sliding stock price, why would they not atleast include short selling as part of the problem instead of just dismissing it entirely?

I can also question revenues, and support the plausibility of multiple reasons and explanations, but I also believe short selling is a major contributor to the problem.
I'm not here constantly spouting and saying that short sales have no bad effect and the share price problem is entirely based on shady business practices.

I'm not saying that, because, well, I'm not a short seller.
I have nothing to defend.

Investaholic

nobody12378 said...

One SMALL flaw in your "logic"; 20 x 50 x 1000 = 1,000,000! I have been with GERS more than six years, through three R/S. A dollar of today's stock would have been valued at $1,000,000 when I join this gambit. If you are right I am an extremely rich man; and rich men would not be here playing with the tortured likes of you or this suffering penny stock.

Go play in another sand box, most of the folks here are too bright for you to be able to through sand in their eyes.

nobody12378 said...

OOPS! We throw sand and drive through it.

Anonymous said...

He complains about the chorus, yet he is just a heckler. Shouting nonsense about the chorus is not providing information. Repeating other people's DD is not some noble cause. Panic Posting is not truth telling.

Yes revenues were not as high as some expected it and built them up to be. The arithmetic is pretty simple with only a few variables. Everyone can see that. No heavy lifting required. No genius required to tell us the obvious. Close the doors to your temple and leave the pagen oracle alone.

Anonymous said...

nobody123 is a idiot he haunts yahoo with jjwood123 and countless other names there AND ihub. Don't be fooled otherwise with another computer and server he works the ihub and his alter egos are obvious

nobody12378 said...

This idiot has made every call in the last two years, everyone! But that is OK I like the anonymity (that is not the same as anonymous). Any one remember who stated, without qualification, that the ASK price would be three cents a week after the Q1 was filed? Anyone? Let's see, the ASK is 0.03 today and it is exactly one week post Q1 release. If I were keeping score, which I am not, that makes it 10 for 10 in the last two years; who needs fantasy "DD" with a record like that?

Anonymous said...

like clockwork the yahoo idiot has to have the last word ONLY any idiot claims a perfect record of losing WHAT kind of idiot preidcts lower stock prices then BUYs at the higher prices and brags of a perfect record when stocks lower? Only any IDIOT predicts lower prices buys higher an brags about being a loser WHAT a moron

Anonymous said...

BTW.....according to my broker the correct pronunciation is Greenshit!

Anonymous said...

like clockwork the yahoo idiot has to have the last word ONLY any idiot claims a perfect record of losing WHAT kind of idiot preidcts lower stock prices then BUYs at the higher prices and brags of a perfect record when stocks lower? Only any IDIOT predicts lower prices buys higher an brags about being a loser WHAT a moron

Anonymous said...

I have been wrong in the short run here and lost some paper money. Nobody is perfect in his predictions yet claims to have lost money. So who is the idiot?

I put my money where my mouth is. Nobody buys and claims to have predicted the price is going down. Whatever "that" is, that is NOT smart.

Anonymous said...

If I had 2 or 3 different accounts, could I whack my own bid a drive the price down to where I want on low volume days?

Anonymous said...

Works for me!

Anonymous said...

don't over think it....this is a 2 billion dollar company...buy it at say two or three cents and just ride it up to 60 70 dollars,,,,just that simple..glta

Anonymous said...

Works for me three.

Anonymous said...

Or give your investment amount to your favorite charity....you will sleep better at night.

Anonymous said...

"This idiot has made every call in the last two years, everyone!"

Did you get rich, Idiot?

Anonymous said...

no settlement?
how about no damages if everyone licenses.
gers business doubles overnight.
cash for debt.
cash for next round of litigation.
news sends pps to da moon.

Anonymous said...

It boils down to YAGI if they don't refinance Gers is done..... So we know at the end of the year because that means the case is going good if they get a new deal Another R/s kills them and any investor support with how investors are being treated now kevie kev is toast

nobody12378 said...

Done, as in bankrupt, as in loan foreclosed ? Be careful you will soon be burned at the stake for stating the possible by those that refuse to believe in the possible.

Anonymous said...

Some like burnt steak but because they asked for it thats what they get for replying to themself

Anonymous said...

Nobody - have or are you in fact shorting gers?

nobody123 said...

Yes I am I already told you this under my jjwood123 name

nobody12378 said...

This is so much fun -- note that the imitators do not have the official blog crest beside the post. This is the sincerest form of flattery.

Guess some folks are lashing out at any body but the right person for the miserable performance of GERS.

The right person -- themselves.

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