Thursday, May 24, 2012

Hello? Can you hear me now?

Remember when all the defendants wanted to know the exact% of oil that was considered to make it "Substantially free of oil"?  Then the judge said it did not have to be decided now?  It might take experts and testimony at trial? 

Well apparently it was there all the time - at least this motion says it is 95%.  I wonder what the judge will think.  Are these lawyers paying attention or did I miss something? 

95% is substantially free of oil
SkunK

49 comments:

Anonymous said...

You missed something...now go to bed and sleep well..even smelly skunks need sleep!

Anonymous said...

dogh!

totaltruth said...

We are almost to the finish line! I want to talk for a minute about greyhounds as I grew up near tampa fl. You see the nice thing about greyhounds is they are extremely focussed. If they are after a rabbit or fox they never loose sight of their target. They don't need blinders like horses. A greyhound is so focussed they will run right into a barbed wire fence chasing their prey. You might be thinking how is this nice and what does it have to do with greenshift. Well I'm getting to that.

You see there's a lot of folks who have been waiting along time to see greenshift finally overcome their obstacles and prosper. There has been a few barbed wire fences in the way but like a greyhound Greenshift has remained focussed. Another nice thing about greyhounds they never give up. A greyhound will run right into a fence, keep their eye on the target, get back up and resume chase. Its been documented (although rare as they are so very fast) that a greyhound will run themselves to death befor they give up chase. This has been the story of greenshift!

They have kept their eye on the prize. And while some have got discouraged greenshift through their persistance is about to catch their prey and claim their prize. How can I say this just read icm's filing.

Icm alledges their is a differance in the product they copied and changed the design of . And their is ill give them that. But they are either desperate or ignorant as greenshifts patents have nothing to do with their product design. You see if they had mechanical patents icm would have an argument. But they don't they have process patents.

Skunk I'm going to quote you I hope you don't mind. " let me skunk it done a bit for you". A mechanical patent is a bad investment. Let's use a paper airplane for example. With a mechanical patent you can make the same paper airplane but change the wingspan or lenght of the plane and you have not infringed. If I get a process patent for folding the paper airplane with my hands your in trouble. It doesn't matter if you fold it in half first or fold the wings first or change the length it doesn't matter you are still using your hands to fold it and thus infringing on my patent.

Icm is claiming that their tricanter is different and removes a different amount of oil. It doesn't matter greenshift has a process patent not a mechanical patent. They are still removing oil at that particular point in the process they are infringing. You see if it was a mechanical patent all that Icm would have to do is change the location of a button or the lenght of the tricanter by 1/4 of an inch and they could get their own patent for their device. But its not so they can't. This is why icm has not been succesful at achieving patents. They do not understand the differance between the two.

The judge has seen a lot of icm's tactics as well as other cases he has presided over and is not fooled by their smoke and mirrors. This has been evident through out the trial he will rule in greenshifts favor. IMO icm and their lawyers are either still ignorant as to the differance between the to different types of patents or they are desperate and reaching for straws hoping they have confused the judge. GLTA!

nobody12378 said...

Boy, someone must have turned the "crank" on that Jack in the Box! This from someone who does not know the difference between the day's Buy to Sell ratio and short sale ratio is giving us insights into the complex world of intellectual property law. I happened to know someone very well who has spent eight years studying and practicing in this field and he would not go out on this kind of limb and predict what the judge is thinking or is going to do. Very omniscient of Total I would say.

jimmowrey said...

Total, that is a simple regurgitation of skunks post from the past, including the skunk it down rip off. I would accuse you of coping and pasting but the spelling is definitely yours. If skunk had patented his statement, you would be infringing on it. Your defense would be similar to ICM's. Your honor I am not infringing on skunks past statement because my spelling and poor use of grammar are what separates our statements.

Anonymous said...

Be nice. That greyhound story was inspiring.

Also, skunk, there is no limitation on the amount of oil recovered in their patents.

Anonymous said...

Nicely said total. I like that you struck a nerve with the infringer basher poster above.

Anonymous said...

I don't see any claim of 5 or 95% in the patents. What are they talking about?

totaltruth said...

Wow! I must have been tired this morning. Sorry that there is a lot of bad spelling in it. Got a few winks and feel a bit better.

I wanted to also answer a question I saw posted the other day but was to tired earlier. In regards to the 5th patent, if it is not used in this trial greenshift WIN,loose or draw can take Icm back to court over this patent. And seek damages for this patent by itself. They are seperate patents if greenshift wanted to they could have used each patent in a different proceding. It would have been a lot more expensive and took a lot longer. But they chose to include several into one to strengthen the case and show Icm purposely infringed.

I also read a post that stated Icm could be calling for a summary judgement befor it gets a chance to be enterred into the trial. Here is my question in return was not the 5th patent ( 840 ) the patent for continuous production of biodiesel? I would fail to see the relevance to this in this trial and I'm not even sure if Icm has infringed on this. Maybe someone else knows.

And yes my explanation of greenshift winning was similar to skunks explanation but I fealt the need to change it up a bit as there where some doubts about what this meant for greenshift. And some may not have been around when skunk expained it in his way or may not have understood it properly. I saw many post about this yesterday and fealt the need to adress it.GLTA!

Anonymous said...

Is it any surprise Icm hired full time bashers? The reputation is on the line. They defending customers have a lot at stake.

Anonymous said...

What a child! Jim's parents should have took him out back and whooped his a$$ a lttle more often.

Anonymous said...

Hey Jim, I thought you weren't going to read any more of totals post. So your a liar and a child!

Anonymous said...

Be careful he will take his ball and go home and won't read your post. LMFAO!

nobody12378 said...

My condolences Skunk, the commentary has turned into Yahoo West, I mean Yahoo Skunk.

totaltruth said...

Really? Your having a hard time bashing greenshift over the trial today so now your going to try to bash skunk and his wonderful sight. That's absolutely uncalled for and pathetic. Skunk has never done or said anything out of the way to anybody, including you! You owe the man an apology!

nobody12378 said...

You are delusional. I never said anything about the Skunk but I did reference the manure that that you and your band of disciples leave behind. You would do Herr Joseph Goebbels proud. In case you did not know he was the Minister of Propaganda for the German Third Reich under Adolf Hitler.

totaltruth said...

Befor jim tries to win the spelling bee or nobody for that matter I meant site as in web site. They seem to have a fetish with spelling or something. They think that's how one measures certain body parts or something. I think its wishful thinking on their part as I have seen them both mispell. How they do that with spell checker on a pc, I don't know. I at least can say I don't have a good spell checker on my phone.

Anonymous said...

It's the same person.

totaltruth said...

Its odd you know about what he gobbles. You must have studied him closely and imitated very well what you saw. I for one could care less about such a figure.

nobody12378 said...

Ignorance reigns supreme!

Anonymous said...

Am I blind or where does the patents say anything 95 or 5% oil? The only thing I see is percentage of moisture 90% and 30.

Anonymous said...

nobody is the biggest idiot of the board lots of talk no substance. I don't know if he's a infringer but could be a shorter. He obviously posts with other names.

Anonymous said...

How does he do this on ihub when they restrict you to one identity?

Kathy

Anonymous said...

Its easy, alls you need is another computer and router. He admitted he has multiple names on raging bull because he has multiple computers so just add it up. Jimm and Tadaa and nobod slap eachs butts and defend each. Its obvious the guys got big ego problem. Or a big lawsuit on his hands.

totaltruth said...

Multiple computers I have five different laptops and one pc. Each computer has a different signature. And that wouldn't really matter either if he has multiple email adresses with different names as ihub can't see who you are for all they know they are different family or friends that come over. Its more of a suggestion really as they have no way to enforce it unless they start to require everyone to log on with a webcam.

Anonymous said...

But all those run the same router right?

totaltruth said...

Also kathy are you the admin from ihub that takes short positions on gers that does not like me telling the truth and keeps deleting all of my informative post about greenshift and shorting?

Anonymous said...

nobody is marking your posts off topic. Haven't you seen him taunt and brag about it? The admin deletes it without reading usually. If you request they review again, they'll read it. just make sure it ok with tos first.

Anonymous said...

That's true. If you have satellite and cable or say a verizon myfi connection and cable you can beat the ihub restriction. They look for the connection supporting, not the computers.

Anonymous said...

Nobody did you get suspended from ihub cause you got caught with to many names?

Anonymous said...

Who cares about that guy. Y'all give that moron way too much credit. Where's the patent say anything about 95 or 5%.

nobody12378 said...

Any one figure out why we had an extra 22,310 shares in our dilution run today? Let me give you a hint: 22,310/50,000 = 0.44 and (.05 - .028)/.05 = 0.44. Yup, keep blaming those dastardly "shorters" for the falling PPS. You have your story and you are sticking to it.

jimmowrey said...

Just to keep all honest here. I have stated that I have total on ignore on Ihub. I have also complained that I cannot find the ignore button for the comment section on skunks blog or I would have put him on ignore here as well. I think that this blog could be more productive it anonymous posters stopped trying to make this about any one person. It was intended to be about our investment in GERS. It is unfortunate that there is no one moderating this board so you have to dig through the trash to find meaningful information.

Anonymous said...

jimm I mean nobody I have same problem with you no ignore feature here

Anonymous said...

jimm I mean nobody I have same problem with you no ignore feature here

Anonymous said...

Skunk, can you add a delete button so jimmbody can get rid of whatever comment he wants. He's getting a bit pissy and hate to see him like that. Yes please a ignore and delete button so jimmbody feels more at home like ihub.

Anonymous said...

Let us all get back to reality. As a manager, I know that when things are slow, pettiness takes over and children will skirmish.

Reality for GERS as portrayed seems to be whether they win the court case. If you would drop the selfish pettiness and observe where the industry is headed, you may have more insight into your investment.

GERS contracts include mutual desire to maintain high yields obviously because both will make more money. Even if GERS lost the court battle, there is still value in signing with GERS. This is GERS primary buisness so new developments my be applied to licencees for increasing profits.

Now let us go for the gusto. If you follow the industry and not just GERS, you would know Syntroleum in a joint venture with Tyson, recently built a 100 million+ gallon per year manufacturing facility to produce renewable deisel (not biodiesel). Renewable diesel may be admixed directly with petroleum diesel into the pipeline and not require separate handling as biodiesel.

Now get this. Valero is in construction of a 135 million+ gallon per year renewable diesel manufacturing facility at its petroleum refinery in St. Charles, LA. Startup is expected by the first of next year.

Now for all you college educated mathematicians, do the math! This equates to a new market for fats and oils north of 235 million gallons. The players in these $200 million+ ventures are not back yard garage stokers. Others may jump on the boat further incresing demand for fats and oils.

Corn oil from ethanol manufacturing facilities is the newest source for supply of fats and oils that was not available five years ago. By the middle of next year, there will be a demand for fats and oils that has not ever been realized. According to the rules of supply and demand, the price for corn oil and other inedible fats and oils will go up substantially.

This equates into more revenue for GERS regardless of the lawsuit due to existing royalty contracts. So whether or not the big slam occurs by winning the infringement case, GERS is positioned to be capable of paying off debt and continuing as a stable company.

Now I ask that all the retoric stop on the Skunk's website and only real information and debate be considered. I hope I have put to rest some concern over GERS. Also, please check my spelling if this is your nain concern!

I am a GERS inverstor. GLTA.

Anonymous said...

To the above...selll what you have. I can tell you first hand that we would never considered buying a system from Greenshift. They may have a couple of satisfied customers in the market place, but when we spoke to thier customer base for consideration of our system, the 90% plus answer was never agian or no way. As for the court case who knows what the outcome will be. I know that Greenshift loses the case, Greenshift will be gone based on conversation with the company late last year. They have mountian of debt and with no royality payments coming in (if or when they lose of course) and the fact they have no real products or services to get the revenue needed, that could ever pay off what they owe.

The hardest days are still ahead of them is for sure.

+++God Bless our past, present and future members of the the armed forces that defend the United States everyday+++

Anonymous said...

To the above.. which companies did you actually talk to? I'm quite sure you're lieing, as I've only ever seen positive statements about GreenShift from their customer's.

Also, GreenShift still has plenty of revenue regardless of the outcome for litigiation, as well as continually adding more customers.

Just because you add "God Bless" at the end of your lieing statements doesn't make it OK to make false statments, that just prove how dumb some posters can be.

It's obvious what your motives are. You're either a shorter, or you work for an infringer. If a company was considering buying their system (as you say you were) and decided not to after talking with other customers, they wouldn't go on an investor-followed board and post "sell what you have". That's just plain stupid, wrong, and clearly states your motives as either a shorter or employed by an infringer.

Don't waste our time with B.S. posts.

jimmowrey said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
Anonymous said...

I was born. But not born yesterday we re gonna,win this trial and off we go with the superior system

Nycdream

jimmowrey said...

Actually the law of supply and demand suggest that increasing supply, in this case more fats and oils, would drive the price down not up. Increasing supply will not necessarily increase demand. We need a catalyst to increase demand. Also remember that we have the potential of increasing the supply of corn oil by 50% due to ethanol mix increasing from E10 to E15.

Anonymous said...

Jim as usual you sound like an idiot. Who claims to be an investor an makes one or two good comments once in a while and then bashes others good post. Its strange how you either didn't read the whole post or just chose the part you wanted to comment on as he was clearly talking about an increased demand for corn oil from the renewable diesel. You fool no one with your bogus attempt to disguise youself as an investor.

jimmowrey said...

I am sorry what will cause this great demand again? I may have missed something in the post there.

jimmowrey said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
jimmowrey said...

I am totally impressed how an idiot who conceals himself as "anonymous" accuses another poster, who discloses his moniker, as an idiot. Yet remains balls less and senseless in his debate. What can you share to this blog, any DD? My last post simply challenges the last poster to prove that there will be an increase in demand for corn oil. As an investor, I would like to be convinced that my investment is sound. I did not put my money on red eight, and started shouting come on red eight, hopefully you will get it.

Anonymous said...

jimm you sound exactly like nobody to the T

Anonymous said...

That's why he's jimmbody jimmbody jimmbo has a mouth the size of a hippo. With nothing to say he posts here all day jimmbody jimmbody jimmbo.

Nobody the homeless hobo he has no where to go so; he hopes you don't mind he spends all his time bashing for dave vanderslime.

Anonymous said...

Jim whens the last time you shared any dd at all here?

 
Free Blog CounterTamron