Wednesday, April 9, 2014

Competition and Stickwater?

Valicor already has Corn Oil Separation Systems, its first-generation corn oil separations technology, installed at 40 ethanol plants.

VFRAC separates corn oil from stillage, not concentrated stillage. “We wanted to move away from the patent litigation and all the legal issues that surrounded all that,”

The separations process also creates stickwater, a low-solids liquid stream, fractionated from the whole stillage, Bleyer says.
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SkunK

Starting today I will be writing a log instead of a blog.    Its not a top tier log but I hope to be above average.  Lets rate it a "B".  So I will start today writing a b log.  Completely different.  Instead of a blog.  Hope you like the change.  :~)

39 comments:

nobody123789 said...

This has always been an issue; as the litigation drones on the opportunity to cash in on the technology is foreclosed by someone building a better mousetrap. They always do. Time to reevaluate long term potential?

Anonymous said...

I just dumped my last shares of this little "pump & dump" scam and I feel great! Got rid of the majority of my shares over a month ago when it was on it's way up. No more reading kindergarten quality blog posts or narcissistic ranting from egotistical jerks! Good luck with the bankruptcy!

The REAL Petalman

Anonymous said...

haha n0b0dy first to post on board lost so much cant even get job so poor. idiot learn to trade stok read book no more forums heheh

nobody123789 said...

Petal,

Probably a good idea, it will conserve resources for your buy-back on the other side of doomsday.

See you on the other side!

nobody123789 said...

Petal,

If tomorrow the R/S is implemented you could not have sold your "GERS" shares for an indeterminate amount of time. Last R/S this was many days for some. If tomorrow, "GERSD" becomes the active symbol, you probably saved yourself a great deal of money today.

Anonymous said...

Rose pedal (imaginary friend)

Probably a good idea to let out the bad blood (if you do not have access to leaches), it will conserve resources for your chasing the bright light on the other side of doomsday.

See you on the other side!

Pagan Nob body

Anonymous said...

KK is manipulating and accumulating his wealth at the sacrifice of common share holders. How many common shares does he have??

techguess said...

the new technology is probably IT...sad...legal system won

Anonymous said...

from valicor website:

COSS™ (Corn Oil Separation System)

A typical dry mill corn ethanol facility generates a DDGs product containing approximately 11-12% by weight of Corn Oil. A 100 MGY ethanol facility typically has over 10 million gallons of Corn Oil contained within the DDGs product. The Corn Oil is worth 3-4 times that of the DDGs. Not only is the oil worth more, but depending on the DDGs handling and customer base, removal of the oil can be desirable to improve the DDGs processing properties and feed value.

There is approximately 25-30% of the total available Corn Oil within the DDGs at a dry mill ethanol plant. The Valicor COSS system can cost effectively separate the Corn Oil from the thin stillage after it has been concentrated through the evaporation process.

Valicor has developed the COSS (Corn Oil Separation System) turnkey system through a specially designed separation module that effectively allows VALICOR to break the Corn Oil emulsion and recover over 85% of the oil available within the concentrated thin stillage. The system returns the stillage back to the evaporator system for further processing.

does not sound better to me!
more expensive. longer payback. less oil.

Anonymous said...

and they are likely on the next list of defendants

Anonymous said...

“We are very pleased with the Court’s ruling,” said David Winsness, GreenShift’s Chief Technology Officer and co-inventor of its patented corn oil extraction technologies. “We have looked at the so-called advanced oil, oil plus, COSS and such other attempts to work around our patents. We are highly confident, and even more so with this latest ruling, that all such attempts plainly infringe our patents.”

Anonymous said...

40 COSS systems
x maybe 10 million each
x treble damages
1.2 billion$
could that be???

hmmm. should i stay or should i go???

nobody123789 said...

Sorry, this NOT COSS!

"The company announced in late February that it had received a U.S. Patent and Trademark Office notice of allowance for its Valicor Stillage Fractionation Technology, known as VFrac."

Anonymous said...

vfrac is new and improves existing systems --- systems that gers has the monopoly on.

Anonymous said...

$20, scottrade:

because that fee did not exist when i bought into [ ], it was not a risk that i had to consider when purchasing at that time and scottrade therefore gladly cancelled the fee and credited the $20 back to my cash account.

hence, i dont think the symbol change fee is retroactive. at least not fairly so.

Anonymous said...

COSS(Corn Oil Separation System)is a COES

Like a b log is a blog.

right skunky?

nobody123789 said...

"GERSD" not today.

Anonymous said...

n0b0dy idiut obseses with gers LOL
make 30k yestrday trade market, whil ehe cry on forum why so broke LOL

Anonymous said...

Got my letter from CEO Carroll today. Essentially a repeat of the rationale in the End of year Report. The KEY statement: "Since we are not permitted to issue common stock for consideration less than par value under Delaware law, if the market price falls to a level at which the conversion price lender's debentures is less than par value, we will be forced to incur costly penalties at the time of each issuance of shares to our lenders. A reverse split would allow the Company to avoid these costs and the potential for future debt default." Perfect Business rational from the Company Viewpoint! Myself, I want the Company (GERS)to survive to the conclusion of the lawsuit. Whatever it takes. BTW, the letter had no fixed date for the Reverse Split. Same wording as was in the posted announcement. DHOLE

nobody123789 said...

." Perfect Business rational from the Company Viewpoint!"

Nonsense!!! Do you know what the PAR is? Never endangered for many months. Do you know why default was on the horizon? Because they reduced the AS to 2.5 billion.

Folks need to stop apologizing for nonsense without understanding the reason for it.

nobody123789 said...

"GERSD" not today

Anonymous said...

It breaks our heart to see your deepest heart wish has not been granted again, today.
Maybe if you get down on your knees and pray humble does your GERSD will arrive to free you from your waiting.
Then you can chant your hallelujah's on all the message boards and tell people to shut up. What a waste 9 years posting on message boards and still not a single intelligent post.

nobody123789 said...

It takes intelligence to recognize it.

nobody123789 said...

To a moron being told that the earth is not the center of the universe is incomprehensible.

Anonymous said...

because the moron knew it before you spouted your wisdom he is ridiculing you for finding no other person you can belittle.
Are you still saying one thing and doing the other?

nobody123789 said...

Sorry that I have used my knowledge of the impact of dilution, and C&C control to rectify my losses here. But, I have been very open about my reasoning and the fact that I have changed strategies for the near term and this is upsetting, speaks volumes about your slavish mindset.

Anonymous said...

Just keep working the message boards, boy.

Open in reasoning and still lying through your teeth SELL MORONS in the meanwhile buying. No matter how you cut it there is no credibility in your posts

nobody123789 said...

Simply because you cannot read and understand what you are reading. Evolution takes its toll financially as well as physically.

Anonymous said...

haha like clokwork n0b0dy still here lOl what a LOSER....leran to trade stop crying on forums hehe

Anonymous said...

Maybe he can't read but I for one would also like to see where you stated that you were actually buying. All I can remember is you telling everybody they should sell, please enlighten us and point it out for us in which posts you said that you would be buying.
For me personally you didn't lose any credibility because that was diminished far before that.

nobody123789 said...

Very flattered that you read and digest everyone of my posts. Must have a lot of time of your hands. The event that created a buying signal for me was when KK stepped down as CEO. I thought (wrongly) that this was a requirement for new financing. You can take the time to dig out posts here and on I-Hub during that time period and you will be placated.

Anonymous said...

dough! hate when that happens

Anonymous said...

That's the point I didn't read all off your posts. I said all I read is your sell advice then I asked you to point out were you did say buy. I didn't ask why you bought.
Seems like your mastering of English is rudimentary at the best. So again in which posts did you state your buy advice?
Probably there ain't such post by you so can leave out those evasive answers if indeed your'e nothing more then an stock market forecaster after the market closes. Do you have any other stocks that you recommend?

Anonymous said...

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/indiana/insdce/1:2014cv08019/52037

new lawsuit?

nobody123789 said...

I have never given any advice to anyone buy or sell. If you can read you will find many posts documenting my decision to sell at 0.02 when the second litigation front was opened knowing full well that massive dilution would follow. I documented that I had made MAJOR purchases at 0.0002 - 0.0003 after KK steeped down thinking that this was a requirement of a new financier. Then I documented very clearly my decision to sell most of these shares at 0.0012 - 0.0014 when the ICP PR came out, knowing full well that this was a prelude to more massive dilution. I have also stated that I will sell my remaining shares when/if a SJ (another short-sighted buying panic will ensue) is rendered, knowing full well that when the appeal is filed the PPS will crash and burn again. Then, we will have the platform for continuous gains when this litigation is settled, YAGI is eliminated and dilution ended. How many times must I express my view and my actions for the ignorant? To the faceless, anonymous masses that only read what they want to read, and if they had followed reasonable actions based upon the dilution and only dilution, would be sitting pretty right now? Look in the mirror and you will find the real enemy of your unrequited expectations.

nobody123789 said...

Not today, you can still your "GERS" shares today.

Anonymous said...

Filed on April 11, 2014

GS Cleantech Corporation
v. Pacific Ethanol Stockton LLC

Complaint for Patent Infringement

http://news.priorsmart.com/gs-cleantech-v-pacific-ethanol-stockton-laea/

Anonymous said...

Your'e quit worried, for other people I guess? Or do you own shares of GERS?

nobody123789 said...

Oh, great more cash hemorrhaging.

 
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