Thursday, October 4, 2012


Today I happened to meet a young lady who I was a High School classmate with - more than a few years ago.  That doesn't  happen very often.  Even her name tag didn't save me. (In my defense women tend to change their last name occasionally.)  Can you remember names from the past better than I? 

Remember Glen Courtright?  The former CEO of Ecosystems?  He was going to feed waste food to insects and then turn the insects into oil for fuel and protein for a fish farm protein supplement.  Using a certain company's oil extraction expertise.  Well Ecosystem and Mr. Courtright parted ways quite a while back.  I wonder what he is doing now?




Anonymous said...

nobody suck it shorty

Anonymous said...

hey nobody stop posting with other names and agreeing with yourself you're not slick and we're not stupid

Anonymous said...

Skunk we have another court delay that's way more important than insects

nobody12378 said...

Anony 6:42,

This delay should come as no surprise if you have been reading the input I have provided from several professionals in the field including a staff member of the Appellate Court which will be hearing the next level of this ligation after the trial. We have a very long slog here, just on the current litigation. The pied pipers and false prophets are becoming hoarse in their attempts to disguise this inconvenient reality.

Anonymous said...

nobody642 playing with himself^

nobody12378 said...

You idiots do realize that you cannot change reality by hiding from it, attempting to disguise it, or attempting to distract others from seeing it?

Anonymous said...

dipchit donkey boy HEE HAW^

Anonymous said...


nobody12378 said...

Your actions continue to prove my thesis. I love it. Keep bellowing like hungry pigs -- your din and dung is amounting to nothing.

Anonymous said...

eats pig dung^

Anonymous said...

he loves pig poop

Anonymous said...


nobody12378 said...

Possible trouble in GERS' paradise over repayment of debt has spread to its customers.

Anonymous said...

The article mentions nothing about GERS, only about one of their customer's (BIOF)plants. The plant is still running thanks to Cargill and is probably still producing corn oil via GERS COES.

Anonymous said...

we have another court delay?

What Delay?

Anonymous said...

5s almost gone

nobody12378 said...

Is that why the ASK just dropped to 0.055?

Anonymous said...

look again^

nobody12378 said...

No you look again.

Anonymous said...

Nobody, your last entry needs a comma after the No.

nobody12378 said...

"No" is primarily an adjective. It may qualify either a singular or plural noun, as in "no man" and "no men". In the above context "you" is the noun and according to the Evans and Evans "Dictionary of Contemporary American Usage" of the English language, "No you", is correct. Thank you for the careful reading of my comments.

Slashnuts said...

California Rations Gasoline As Prices Near $6

An octane shortage has led to demands for a RVP waiver. This would allow winter (ethanol) blends to begin a month earlier than normal.

California Refiners Ration Gasoline as Prices Near Record
By Lynn Doan - Oct 5, 2012

"Exxon Mobil and Valero are rationing gasoline deliveries to customers in California as refinery halts cut into the state’s supplies, driving pump prices toward record highs.

California’s gasoline markets are particularly susceptible to refinery outages because the state is mostly cut off from oil-products pipelines spanning the rest of the country, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration. The latest shortage forced retailers in the Los Angeles-area, including Costco (COST) Wholesale Corp., to run out of supplies, shut pumps and, in some cases, charge their highest prices ever.

“We’re really sort of shell-shocked,” said Tom Robinson, president of Santa Clara, California-based Robinson Oil Corp., which operates 34 Rotten Robbie convenience stores. “If you’ve been in California long enough, you know how volatile our market can be. But to see prices go up $1 a gallon since Monday -- I’ve never seen that before.”

Refiners outside California are generally not equipped to supply the cleaner-burning gasoline required in the state, Hess said by telephone.

“That adds another level of complexity when there’s an outage and they have to import gasoline,” he said. “They still need to figure out how to blend that.”

“There’s no doubt” the company’s prices will climb higher, he said.

Low-P, a gasoline station in Calabasas, California, 30 miles west of Los Angeles, shut pumps Oct. 2 after running out of gasoline.

The station received a fuel delivery yesterday that will allow it to reopen, while charging almost $6 a gallon, John Ravi, the station’s owner, said yesterday by phone. The shipment should keep the store open for another week, Ravi said.

The gasoline shortage “feels like a hurricane to me, but it’s the West Coast,” Jeff Cole, Costco’s vice president of gasoline, said by telephone Oct. 3. “We’re obviously extremely disheartened that we are unable to do this, and we’re pulling fuel from all corners of California to fix this.”

The California Independent Oil Marketers Association, a Sacramento-based group that represents wholesale and retail fuel marketers, asked the state Oct. 3 to expedite a waiver that would allow refiners to produce and sell winter-grade fuel, Jay McKeeman, a spokesman for the association, said by telephone that day.

California’s summer-blend fuel requirements are in effect in Southern California until Oct. 31. The Reid Vapor Pressure, or RVP, limits are lifted in other areas of the state as early as Sept. 30.

The state Air Resources Board and Energy Commission are evaluating fuel supplies and haven’t decided on the waiver, Dave Clegern, a spokesman for the air board in Sacramento, said yesterday by e-mail."

by techguess said...

would someone want to discuss the eventual common share structure...issues like KK preffered shares own 80% of company...will that change or no?...things like that?
glta long

Anonymous said...

250000 bid 50 times ask !

nobody12378 said...

Yup, and look what you got for it a nice sized share dump.

Slashnuts said...

Method II Expected To Become Vital For Dairy Cows

Remember what Mr. Kreisler said about Method II?

"One of the new licenses we executed during 2011 (Calgren) provides for the first-ever commercial deployment of our patent-pending Method II whole stillage extraction process, a technology that is expected to become vital to ethanol producers that sell their distillers grain to the dairy markets. "

De-oiled DDGS can be fed to dairy cattle at a higher inclusion rate than traditional DDGS. From my research, DDGS without the oil extracted has an oil content of about 9%-10%. Method I reduces the oil content to roughly 5%-6%. Method II should bring it down to around 3% which is the amount of oil that's naturally available in a whole kernel of corn.

The proper amount of oil in a dairy cow's ration is important because too much oil can cause milk fat depression issues. Method II will align the oil content with that of corn and will allow for optimum milk production while lowering the ration cost.

With method I, more of the byproduct can be fed to dairy cows. Method II will take that to the next level.

"General research into the subject has shown that increasing concentrations of low-fat distillers grains have correlated to increasing efficiency of milk production. “When feeding regular DDGS you really have to limit feeds with high levels of unsaturated fatty acids and may cause limitations in formulation procedures,” said Paul Kononoff, Associate Professor of Dairy Nutrition/Dairy Nutrition Specialist at the University of Nebraska in Lincoln. “The reduction in fat in low fat DDGS allows for higher inclusion of the co-product without the worries of milk fat depression.” Kononoff and others at the University of Nebraska have performed trials."

California has more dairy cows than any other state. Method II is expected to become vital to the dairy industry. It's no wonder Calgren made a well informed decision to go with method II. Not only will they have twice the volume of biodiesel, but the oil content of the method II DDGS is perfect for dairy cows. I can't help but wonder if PEIX is taking this into consideration.

This could explain why PEIX is in discussions with other vendors to install corn oil extraction in their other plants.
I believe method II is in PEIX's best interests. They have the most ethanol production in a state that has the most dairy cows.

"In addition, we are currently in discussions with vendors to implement corn oil separation at our remaining 3 plants, which we expect to complete by the end of the first quarter of next year."

Now why would PEIX be in talks with other vendors (plural)? Clearly, ICM was not awarded the job for the other plants and the door is still open for GERS.

During a drought, producers need every bit out of corn they can get.

During this drought, producers need to extract all the oil they can, not half of what their competitors are extracting.

If method II is the best option for dairy cows, it's no wonder the lower yielding ICM system didn't get the California contracts.

Good Luck To All!$!$!$!$

Slashnuts said...

$5 to $10 Million Dollars 5 to 10 MGY

Calgren is going to install a biodiesel plant costing $5 to $10 million. Isn't it interesting that Greenshift has 5 and 10 million gallon biodiesel plants as an upgrade?

To me, this sounds like a big contract coming Greenshift's way.

"Greenshift has the patents to build continuous flow 5 and 10 MGY biodiesel plants in ethanol plants."

"The diversification goes beyond feedstock. Schlyer says they are also seeking permit modifications to install a biodiesel production facility at their Pixley plant. “Using our extracted vegetable oil as feedstock, we believe we can produce some of the lowest carbon intensity biodiesel in California...He adds the investment could be in the $5 to $10 million dollar range."

Calgren Adding Biodiesel Production At Ethanol Plant

For many years GERS has been trying to get ethanol producers to extract oil and produce biodiesel on-site. It looks like Calgren Renewables is doing just that. Calgren will be the first to install GERS' method II,(1.33 pounds of oil per bushel) I believe GERS may be installing their patented biodiesel systems inside Calgren's plant as well. Calgren is in the permitting process to add biodiesel production.

Calgren Seeking Permit To Install Biodiesel Production Facility

"In addition, future results may be improved by the impact of event-driven systems integration contracts as we continue to receive significant interest for our engineering and other services in connection with the design, construction, integration and modification of corn oil extraction systems and other new systems for existing and prospective licensees. We are currently party to a number of such agreements which can be expected to contribute to revenue during 2012."

"1. Co-located BioDiesel Plant/Integral Refining"
"GreenShift has the engineering, construction, management experience - and the patents to build continuous flow modular 5 and 10mmgy biodiesel plants adjacent to Ethanol plants. Since this is commercialized technology - ready for prime time - this would be my first guess. On the recent GreenShift video it is explained that the corn oil produced could be used to fuel the hundreds of trucks that supply the Ethanol Plant. With an Integral Refining facility that could literally make that happen. The Ethanol facility would capture not only the value of the corn oil, but also the value added as it is converted from corn oil to Biodiesel in a true multi-fuel refinery."

Slashnuts said...

"Speaking to a fuels committee of the state agency, Pixley-based Calgren Renewable Fuels president Lyle Schlyer said they hope to encourage local farmers to grow grain sorghum(milo) in enough quantities to replace as much as 20% of the Midwest corn they import by the trainload now. Using milo requires few modifications to the plant to make ethanol and other co-products."

"The diversification goes beyond feedstock. Schlyer says they are also seeking permit modifications to install a biodiesel production facility at their Pixley plant. “Using our extracted vegetable oil as feedstock, we believe we can produce some of the lowest carbon intensity biodiesel in California and not have to ship that stuff back to Illinois, to find a processor who is well suited to use it.” He adds the investment could be in the $5 to $10 million dollar range."

"Pacific Ethanol like others, is adding corn oil extraction at 4 plants in the West that will give them another high value co-product to sell as did Calgren in Tulare County last year,helping them to move to profitability."

"Aemetis recently designed, built and began to operate a corn oil extraction unit at Keyes that will produce about 2 million gallons per year of extracted oil for biodiesel or animal feed and reduce the carbon footprint of the facility that will be important over the next few years to comply with the state Low Carbon Fuel Standard. The LCFS mandates a cut of our fuel’s carbon emissions by 10% to reduce global warming."

"Tony Beam, the Plant Manager of Advanced BioEnergy stated:"

"This corn oil extraction process now . . . gives us the ability to produce another fuel at this facility of BioDiesel. We will produce 8 trucks a week . . . "

Good Luck To All!$!$!$!$!$!$!$

I continue to buy GPRE/GERS....

Good Luck To All!$!$!$!$!$!$

Anonymous said...

spoke to KK today he said nobody is his love child and all the dilusion went to pay his bills

Anonymous said...

techguess 1:51

You have now seen what I have been saying for some time. KK, his dad and EC hold non-dilutable shares worth 80% of the company. So the shares being traded only represent 20%. It would not be a stretch to take the company private after the dust settles and shareholders have supported the lawsuits at their expense with no return.

As for Calgren, they cannot build a biodiesel process for less than $15 million. If GERS contracts for less than that amount, look for more lawsuits. As example, "NextDiesel" in Michigan. GERS does not have technical expertise they once had, mostly marketing and accounting. They are whittled down to hanging in for the lawsuits.

Then as you recognize, 80% of the company is privately held. Unless KK gives up 51% of the company, he maintains the helm and future of where the profits go. Most likely it will not be the common shareholder as those preferred shares get payout first.

GLTA very very LOOOOOOONG on this one.

Anonymous said...

"KK, his dad and EC hold non-dilutable shares worth 80% of the company."

No KK owns the shares by himself.
The reason he holds them and cannot sell them and can never sell them is because they are collateral for the main debtor.

KK owns those shares like the president owns the white house. Not really. Neither can sell. But they both serve a purpose.

I have listened for years and years about how KK sells his magic shares to screw over the "commons".

Show me one SEC Insider Form 4 where KK has sold a single share. Ever

Anonymous said...

Its like Obama repeating his campaign lies over and over. He started to believe that rommney was an out of touch millionare.

Obamaa was shocked when an out of touch millionare did not show up to debate him. Real Romney (not obama ad romney)showed up and kicked his ass.

I hope some of you idiots haven't posted your scam scam crap so long that you have started to believe it

jjwood said...

Al Gore blamed Obama's idiocy on the altitude in Denver, LOL.

Anonymous said...

Soooo! When we shareholders free up KK's debt liability, KK may do as he wishes with those non-diluted shares? And do not fool yourself, EC has a stake as well as KK's dad.

Anonymous said...

its getting easier to tell nobodys anonymous babbling

nobody12378 said...

Easier? What is truly easy is the ability to determine a person's lack of intelligence even without an IQ score.

Anonymous said...

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