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Project Manager, 2006-08 Greenshift Ethanol Conf Attendee, Alparetta, GA - About 28 years old
Rachael is a 1994 Graduate of Lakeside, a private Prep school in Seattle, WA. Rachael is a graduate of The University of the South, with a cum laude bachelor's degree in biological psychology and minors in fine arts and philosophy. One time IBM site designer, worked on Macy's e-commerce site and the redesign of the NYSE site. Founder of Kissykat and Candent Corp. As of March 31, 2008, the Company (GERS) owed Candent Corporation $757,853 (the "Candent Note"). The former president of Candent is the wife of the Company's chairman. All of the issued and outstanding capital stock held by Candent is in trust for the benefit of its former president. The note payable to Candent shall bear interest at a rate of 10% per year and matures November 8, 2010. (P. 21 1st Quarter)
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Time Line for Patents
- 17 Aug 2004 Clean Tech filed first COES Provisional Patent Application “050”
- 2004 Inventors Disclosed Technology to ICM. ICM executed Confidentiality Agreement. ICM purchases two authorized COES.p3
- June 2005: Westfalia is still "developing" COES technology while ICM is finally installing the two COES bought from the Inventors the year before
- 2005 The Inventors invited Ethanol manufacturers to symposium to hear about COES – 30% attended.(SkunK's idea on which one)
- 5 May 2005 Clean Tech filed first COES Non-Provisional Patent Application “859”
- 23 Feb 2006 '858 patent publication date.
- 23 Feb 2006 '729 publication date
- 6 May 2009 GERS receives Notice of Allowance for first Patents
- U.S. Patent 7,601,858 issued 13 Oct 2009
- U.S. Patent 7,608,729 issued 27 Oct 2009
- 16 Feb 2010 Notice Of Allowance Issued For Third GreenShift Corn Oil Extraction Patent
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CHAIRMAN of the GERS BOARD
Mr Kevin Kreisler maintains his GERS stock through his holding company: Viridis Capital, LLC. Mr. Kreisler is a graduate of Rutgers University College of Engineering (B.S., Civil and Environmental Engineering, 1994), Rutgers University Graduate School of Management (M.B.A., 1995), and Rutgers University School of Law (J.D., 1997). Served as the Company’s vice president from 1998 to 2000, president from 2000 to 2002, chief executive officer from 2002 to 2005 and has served as the Company’s chairman from 2005 to the present. Admitted to practice law in New Jersey and the United States District Court for the District of New Jersey. Kevin Kreisler is the sole owner of Viridis Capital LLC; GreenSpace Capital, LLC; Incandent Capital, L.L.C. Mr. Kevin Kreisler is about 37 years old.
"Roots" of Greenshift
- Greenshift Corp - until present
- GS Clean Tech Corp - until 2-2008 - 1-50 Reverse Split 12Dec2007
- VERIDIUM CORP until 7-2006
- KBF Pollution Management Inc from 3-1996 until 10-2003 - 1-20 Reverse Split 21Oct03
- KBF Pollution Control Inc 1984-1996
- Kreisler Bags - then - Kreisler Bags and Filtration 1979-1984 (hence "KBF" above)
Technicians and Magicians Behind the Curtain
David Fred Cantrell - Graduate of the University of Georgia where he received a Masters Degree in Poultry Science and Statistics. Co-inventor of COE technology with Dave Winsness. Started: Cantrell Winsness Technologies LLC. Next: CEO of Mean Green Biodiesel. Works out of One Penn Plaza, NY?
Dan Lester - Project Manager, GS CleanTech. Past: Warnecke Design Engineer 2004-2007; Imagetech Inc. Engineer 2001-2004. Education: Devry University EET, Electronics Engineering, 1998 — 2001
Patrick Bush - GreenShift’s Vice President of Biodiesel Technology
Dan Page - Attended 2008 Ethanol Conference for Greenshift Corp from Alpharetta, GA.
Dan Saltzman - Controller Greenshift Corporation
Past: 2001 — 2004 Assistant Controller, New York Mortgage;
1989 — 2000 Assistant Vice President Financial Reporting, Scudder; 1984 — 1997 Bucknell University
Jacqueline Flynn - Controller of GreenShift Corporation since 2006. She is the Chief Financial Officer (CFO) and Chief Accounting Officer for ESYM/ADRN. She is also the CFO for CICS. She has twenty years experience in financial accounting for both public and private companies.
Mary J. Carroll - Worked in GreenShift Administration since at least December of 2003. Presently GreenShift Vice President of Administration.
John W. Davis - John "Whit" Davis, has a B.S. in Civil Engineering from the U.S. Coast Guard Academy and an M.B.A from Boston University. GS CleanTech's new Vice President of Operations (as of PR 22 Jan '07), has a broad base of diversified management, engineering, operational and business development experience. Mr. Davis led the deployment of GS CleanTech's existing Corn Oil Extraction System installations at Little Sioux Corn Processors and Glacial Lakes Energy. Most recently in his career, Mr. Davis was the technical director for special projects at Vortex Dehydration Technology, where he led product design, development and implementation for many applications of the technologies underlying GS CleanTech's Tornado Generator[TM]. Mr. Davis holds the rank of Lt. Commander as a reservist with the U.S. Coast Guard. (One of four original COES Inventors.)
Dan Lester - Project Manager, GS CleanTech. Past: Warnecke Design Engineer 2004-2007; Imagetech Inc. Engineer 2001-2004. Education: Devry University EET, Electronics Engineering, 1998 — 2001
Patrick Bush - GreenShift’s Vice President of Biodiesel Technology
Dan Page - Attended 2008 Ethanol Conference for Greenshift Corp from Alpharetta, GA.
Dan Saltzman - Controller Greenshift Corporation
Past: 2001 — 2004 Assistant Controller, New York Mortgage;
1989 — 2000 Assistant Vice President Financial Reporting, Scudder; 1984 — 1997 Bucknell University
Jacqueline Flynn - Controller of GreenShift Corporation since 2006. She is the Chief Financial Officer (CFO) and Chief Accounting Officer for ESYM/ADRN. She is also the CFO for CICS. She has twenty years experience in financial accounting for both public and private companies.
Mary J. Carroll - Worked in GreenShift Administration since at least December of 2003. Presently GreenShift Vice President of Administration.
John W. Davis - John "Whit" Davis, has a B.S. in Civil Engineering from the U.S. Coast Guard Academy and an M.B.A from Boston University. GS CleanTech's new Vice President of Operations (as of PR 22 Jan '07), has a broad base of diversified management, engineering, operational and business development experience. Mr. Davis led the deployment of GS CleanTech's existing Corn Oil Extraction System installations at Little Sioux Corn Processors and Glacial Lakes Energy. Most recently in his career, Mr. Davis was the technical director for special projects at Vortex Dehydration Technology, where he led product design, development and implementation for many applications of the technologies underlying GS CleanTech's Tornado Generator[TM]. Mr. Davis holds the rank of Lt. Commander as a reservist with the U.S. Coast Guard. (One of four original COES Inventors.)
Christopher Kennedy
Project Manager, 2006-08 Greenshift Ethanol Conf Attendee, Alparetta, GA - About 28 years old
Public History of the Keisler Family
The lovely Mrs. Rachael Kreisler
Rachael is a 1994 Graduate of Lakeside, a private Prep school in Seattle, WA. Rachael is a graduate of The University of the South, with a cum laude bachelor's degree in biological psychology and minors in fine arts and philosophy. One time IBM site designer, worked on Macy's e-commerce site and the redesign of the NYSE site. Founder of Kissykat and Candent Corp. As of March 31, 2008, the Company (GERS) owed Candent Corporation $757,853 (the "Candent Note"). The former president of Candent is the wife of the Company's chairman. All of the issued and outstanding capital stock held by Candent is in trust for the benefit of its former president. The note payable to Candent shall bear interest at a rate of 10% per year and matures November 8, 2010. (P. 21 1st Quarter)
Kreisler Family Involved in GERS
Lawrence M. Kreisler - Lawrence is the sole owner of Serenity Capital, LLC. Built Kreisler Bags, then Kreisler Bags and Filters, then KBF Pollution Control Inc., then KBF Pollution Management Inc. After 1-20 R/S Sept2003 company was taken over by Veridium Corp in Oct2003, controlled by son Kevin. Resigned, effective December 31, 2003, as an officer and director of Veridium Corporation. Continued to work at Veridium's Paterson, New Jersey based recycling facility, that was designed on recycling technologies he invented. His employment was terminated in July 2004 due to irreconcilable philosophical differences in how to best operate and grow that facility. Bronze Parachute included: 100 percent of his salary of $150,000 through December 31, 2004 and 50 percent of his salary through December 31, 2006. Medical benefits until the age of 65. Lawrence is about 61 years old.
Scott Kreisler - Scott is the sole owner of Cyrus Capital, LLC. Brother of Kevin Kreisler, listed as a Beneficial Owner of Veridium Corporation on 4/2/2002 SEC filings. The 2005 annual report also says: "During 2005, Scott Kreisler, brother of Kevin Kreisler, received salaries of $72,700. Scott Kreisler no longer works for the Company." In February 2006, Cyrus Capital, LLC, purchased from GCS Investments $500,000 in convertible debt issuedby GS Clean Tech. During the period ended March 31, 2006, Cyrus effected conversions totaling $280,000, corresponding to 14,000,000 shares of the Company's common stock. During the second quarter 2006 Cyrus effected additional conversions totaling $120,000 into a total of 6,000,000 shares of the Company's common stock.
Kathi A. Kreisler From a 3/30/2001 filing: Kathi Kreisler is a Co-founder of VERIDIUM CORPORATION and served as its President from 1984 through December 1994. She has been a director since March 1984. In January 1995, Ms. Kreisler became vice president, secretary and treasurer of Veridium Corporation. From 1979 to 1984, Ms. Kreisler was a principal in Kreisler Bags and Filtration, Inc., which name was subsequently changed to KBF Pollution Management, Inc. Ms. Kreisler is the wife of Lawrence Kreisler and is the mother of Kevin and Scott Kreisler. During 2005, Kathi Kreisler received salaries of $33,750. During December of 2005, Kathi Kreisler received 3,806,811 shares of the Company's common stock as a settlement of all severance liabilities.
MIF During the first quarter 2008, Minority Interest Fund (II), LLC ("MIF") acquired the Kerns $1,000,000 Debenture. In February 2008, MIF subsequently fully converted this debenture at the rate of $0.16 per share into 6,875,000 shares of Company common stock. The managing member of MIF is a relative of Kevin Kreisler. (p. 23 1st Qtr Rpt)
Scott Kreisler - Scott is the sole owner of Cyrus Capital, LLC. Brother of Kevin Kreisler, listed as a Beneficial Owner of Veridium Corporation on 4/2/2002 SEC filings. The 2005 annual report also says: "During 2005, Scott Kreisler, brother of Kevin Kreisler, received salaries of $72,700. Scott Kreisler no longer works for the Company." In February 2006, Cyrus Capital, LLC, purchased from GCS Investments $500,000 in convertible debt issuedby GS Clean Tech. During the period ended March 31, 2006, Cyrus effected conversions totaling $280,000, corresponding to 14,000,000 shares of the Company's common stock. During the second quarter 2006 Cyrus effected additional conversions totaling $120,000 into a total of 6,000,000 shares of the Company's common stock.
Kathi A. Kreisler From a 3/30/2001 filing: Kathi Kreisler is a Co-founder of VERIDIUM CORPORATION and served as its President from 1984 through December 1994. She has been a director since March 1984. In January 1995, Ms. Kreisler became vice president, secretary and treasurer of Veridium Corporation. From 1979 to 1984, Ms. Kreisler was a principal in Kreisler Bags and Filtration, Inc., which name was subsequently changed to KBF Pollution Management, Inc. Ms. Kreisler is the wife of Lawrence Kreisler and is the mother of Kevin and Scott Kreisler. During 2005, Kathi Kreisler received salaries of $33,750. During December of 2005, Kathi Kreisler received 3,806,811 shares of the Company's common stock as a settlement of all severance liabilities.
MIF During the first quarter 2008, Minority Interest Fund (II), LLC ("MIF") acquired the Kerns $1,000,000 Debenture. In February 2008, MIF subsequently fully converted this debenture at the rate of $0.16 per share into 6,875,000 shares of Company common stock. The managing member of MIF is a relative of Kevin Kreisler. (p. 23 1st Qtr Rpt)
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"This system is not bad, it is just how things have worked in every functional society since time began. Someone provides a good or service in exchange for receiving a good or service. Money just facilitates making change and keeping score."
Socialism
"A system where more goods and services are provided to those who provide less goods and services." Leads to less goods and services.
Communism
"Where the link to producing goods and services and receiving goods and services is severed. Outdated, shabby or no production follows. Leads in time to a robust Free Enterprise system - starting with a black market."
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Note: I am a shareholder - I do not work for, nor do I receive any direct or indirect payment from GERS or anyone associated with them. (But it would be Kapitalist Kool if I did) I will not intentionally mislead - but I can be wrong (ask Mrs. SkunK for specific frequencies) - so do your own due diligence - and take responsibility for your own financial decisions – (and your own life in general) good or bad. I do not give financial advice - I let you look at my dd as I try to make sense of it all and make MY decisions. Make your own! I have been rightfully accused of being a rather cheery, positive individual who laughs at every opportunity. These tendencies may cause me to overlook deficiencies in this stock that are painfully obvious to others. Celebrate today - and some good garage logic luck to ya.
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Disclaimer for those who need additional clarification. . .
My beliefs and the financial strategies discussed on this site are not to be used without proper financial analysis of your personal situation. Better yet, you do not have my permission to use them at all. I strongly suggest you seek help of a financial advisor or, even better, a Certified Financial Planner in order to assist you in any financial planning. I am not selling or advising you to buy any financial products. I am not selling or advising you to buy this stock or any other stock! I am just blogging about one of my favourite subjects! This is a hobby for me and should only be entertainment for you. You may analyse my opinions and determine if they suit you or not. I hope that your personal finance path to your goals will be covered with success and profit. Enjoy your reading.
Additional Disclaimer for the real knukleheads . . . .
Look, if your still reading this disclaimer and haven't figured out my name is SkunK and I don't know nothin' then you really need help. If you still want to blindly go out and do whatever some dude on the internet does then I can't help you. If you are not emotionally secure enough to suffer another's opinion - then turn the dang channel. Quickly seek a mental health professional! I am not one of them either!
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SkunK's Public Library; Magazine Section
- June 2008 Bio-Diesel Mag - New Bio-Diesel method that can use corn oil
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- Dr. Bayless explains Algae process he sold to Greenshift
- Our Algae slime is 94% starch and 6% oil
- and the super "algae" comes from Yellowstone
- Biodiesel Nov 2006 - The Matchmaker
- Forbes Dan Fisher Article
- Distillers Grain Quarterly - 2007 1st Quarter - "COE Opens New Markets"
34 comments:
I have been laughed at, scoffed and ridiculed in the past when I have brought forwarded what I have learned from professionals in this field about the extended period of time that is going to be required to bring this litigation to closure. The Skunk provides documents that give evidence to the lengthy and arduous road ahead. And this extended time-table is only for the lower court proceedings; nothing at all has been entered relative to post trial maneuvering/reconsiderations and appeals. Now, the attorneys from both sides are attesting to the the length of this slog ahead of us. Are they also bashers? Does any one really think that DVG is going to settle? Now let some reality sink in here -- finally.
More reality questions: Does any one really think that new financing can be found before the litigation is completed? Does any one really think that GERS can last out these years without massively diluting the stock?
Does anyone think nobody can take a break from his circle jerk to write such blasphemy
That is a very intelligent and thoughtful response. Your use of the term "blasphemy" is telling. You and so many others are dealing in beliefs with regard to GERS and not reality. Sounds like a wise investment approach to me.
Listening to you is like listening to rap music over and over again. Just sell if it's such a bad investment for you.
Where is the fun in that, where is the zing of the adventure, where is the stimulation of the gambit; where is the matrix for sustenance?
can you stop posting please
gers down 4% on 1,000 share volume...no buyers...
That's my fault. I shouldn't have pointed out what was in the legal filing.
no buyers at any price defines down gap price action...no rush on this issue..yet/if ever
everyone has lost a fortune here...now the time line of the litigation skedual cannot be met by new investors in the common market....a big clue...gers has had years to line up legitamate financing..no takers! ...none...save your money and earn no interest..that is a better choice....i am not a basher//...i am a technician
...i am a technician
who works for the defendants.
I don't want to lose my job.
they said thats what would happen if we lost this case and had to pay back all the money we stole from GreenShift shareholders by not paying royalties to a multi-patent holder.
Bank robbng is too dangerous cause they shoot back.
Patent infringing is fun cause we get an unfair advantage over the rest of the industry and all we have to do is make the small company fold up by chasing away investors before the litigation is done.
I think I will take my vacation in Jamacia this year.
Oh and make sure you sell and do not invest here! I am counting on you!
If you think that all the "money that they stole" is going back to the common shareholders if/when damages are paid; I have one word for you -- delusional. Where do you get that impression?
10:35 i have been reading and agree with you....but why no one able to swing real financing and dump this yag dilution approach to raising financing?...perhaps gers thinks winning will repair the dilution damage by repurchasing shares from the proceeds...no idea
Are the disciples finally departing?
I don't know, are you?
As a patent attorney and a stockholder I assure you that this will go on for years. More times then not, the patent holder does not have the resources to continue the fight. I hope that Greenshift is the exception. There will be no willful intent or triple damages because I suspect all are operating with patent invalidity opinions. Let the courts do there job and the attorney's do there's. The rest is just folly and entertainment.
God Nobody grow up! Just because your investment and loss over the years didnt pan out doesnt mean that we all have to be brought down with you. Your just a bitter person that obviously is suffering from envy over patents that are good versus your failed products.... yes.. I have been hear on the blog for a long time and remember your bio before your delete it it a long time ago. How you had your own bio/green inventions and patent pending ideas and business that no one else wanted nothing to do with and your business. Get a job man and grow up. Sell your stock and go use your higher education to do something more than blog all day.
skunk thinks this should have a market cap of 2 billion..then that is a 40 dollar stock..i like it
It seems like people keep forgetting, or are ignorant and think that Nobody is here for the investors, that GreenShift's income is RESIDUAL.
The idea that the defendants will keep this litigation going until GERS goes bankrupt is rediculous. They have residual income each quarter from the license royalties, and are continuing, slowly, to gain more contracts, with more residual income.
Where as a company like ICM is only making money at point of purchase, GreenShift is making continual income. And customers understand it's worth it's value as they are producing far higher yeilds than any of ICM's systems.
GERS can afford to fight this for a long time. Defendants should realize the "run-em-down" tactic doesn't work on a company with high levels of residual income.
If they're smart, the defendants will save themselves from going bankrupt and just settle. At this point, will all the evidence and failed prior arguments, it's inevitable that GERS will win this case.
priceline made william shatner rich...we are going to be rich!
what broke the penny intraday....no demand for this lovely piece
I remember very clearly there was a Nobody touting a settlement and not demanding the most from DvG.....
You´re not laughed at for nothing, let that be a solace for you and your 4 way predictions.
If you do not change your view with new information why attempt to find new information? You sound like the Catholic Church when confronted with the "news" that the earth was not the center of the universe.
There is no current demand for this stock because only current investors know about it.
Anyone that happens to stumble upon it just has to search up on any GERS board and see B.S. panic posts from Nobody, Tadaa, and the other losers, and that'll scare them away.
Their panic posts and consistently negative views masked under their phrase "objective questioning" has to stop.
So I'd say we don't need financing for the stock to go up. We just need some good PR and for the bashers like Nobody and Tadaa to stop posting their rideric everywhere, and this thing could really take off.
Again, everyone, why would Nobody or Tadaa be invested in a company they have absolutely no faith in and constantly post about their lack of faith? Any normal person who actually thought that, would have gotten themselves out a long time ago. They wouldn't be constantly posting negative theories and spinning every little detail into a death march. They'd get out, and shut up.
Why can't Nobody or Tadaa do that? Because there's obviously a hidden negative motive, all though not too hidden. But unless you're contantly on the boards reading posts, new onlookers are going to take them seriously.
And anyone truly invested in GERS wouldn't constantly try to scare away new and current investors. It just doesn't make sense.
Ugh, they really frustrate me!
Still not sub penny I guess your sad about that nobody
I am glad you got that off your chest, now maybe you can look beyond your belief system and attempt to address reality. And what the heck is "rideric"? Gosh, GERS must have taken all your pennies as to not be able to own a spell-checker.
Geez Nobody, exaggerating small, useless details (like correct spelling) to avoid facing the blatant and large details (like constant bashing, panic posts, twisted theories cloaked under the term "objective questioning").
You sound like a republican candidate.
Anonymous 3:40, sorry to burst your bubble. Nobody is a professed liberal, which does explain a lot about his posts. As you say, "bashing, panic posts, twisted theories cloaked under the term objective questioning."
Can´t imagine you found some `new information` These past 6 years you found all the information you did not wanted to see when you invested.
Difficult for you to understand the concept of DD, otherwise you would have known that before you threw in your first cent, what to expect.
What is all the harping good for you´ll end up accusing other people off laughing at you.
I have no problem with the way this ship is steered and steering and that has nothing to do with not wanting to see, but with having seen it already.
i didnt see icm state the date icm started spewing its junk on the market. anybody know?
all known facts are reflected in share price...price keeps going down
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from the tpo website:
III. SALE OF A PROCESS
A claimed process, which is a series of acts or steps, is not sold in the same sense as is a claimed product, device, or apparatus, which is a tangible item. "'Know-how' describing what the process consists of and how the process should be carried out may be sold in the sense that the buyer acquires knowledge of the process and obtains the freedom to carry it out pursuant to the terms of the transaction. However, such a transaction is not a 'sale' of the invention within the meaning of § 102(b) because the process has not been carried out or performed as a result of the transaction." In re Kollar, 286 F.3d 1326, 1332, 62 USPQ2d 1425, 1429 (Fed. Cir. 2002). However, sale of a product made by the claimed process by the patentee or a licensee would constitute a sale of the process within the meaning of 35 U.S.C. 102(b). See id. at 1333, 62 USPQ2d at 1429; D.L. Auld Co. v. Chroma Graphics Corp., 714 F.2d 1144, 1147-48, 219 USPQ 13, 15-16 (Fed. Cir. 1983) (Even though the sale of a product made by a claimed method before the critical date did not reveal anything about the method to the public, the sale resulted in a "forfeiture" of any right to a patent to that method); W.L. Gore & Assocs., Inc. v. Garlock, Inc., 721 F.2d 1540, 1550, 220 USPQ 303, 310 (Fed. Cir. 1983). The application of 35 U.S.C. 102(b) would also be triggered by actually performing the claimed process itself for consideration. See Scaltech, Inc. v. Retec/Tetra, L.L.C., 269 F.3d 1321, 1328, 60 USPQ2d 1687, 1691(Fed. Cir. 2001) (Patent was held invalid under 35 U.S.C. 102(b) based on patentee's offer to perform the claimed process for treating oil refinery waste more than one year before filing the patent application). Moreover, the sale of a device embodying a claimed process may trigger the on-sale bar. Minton v. National Ass'n. of Securities Dealers, Inc., 336 F.3d 1373, 1378, 67 USPQ2d 1614, 1618 (Fed. Cir. 2003) (finding a fully operational computer program implementing and thus embodying the claimed method to trigger the on-sale bar). However, the sale of a prior art device different from that disclosed in a patent that is asserted after the critical date to be capable of performing the claimed method is not an on-sale bar of the process. Poly-America LP v. GSE Lining Tech. Inc., 383 F.3d 1303, 1308-09, 72 USPQ2d 1685, 1688-89 (Fed. Cir. 2004) (stating that the transaction involving the sale of the prior art device did not involve a transaction of the claimed method but instead only a device different from that described in the patent for carrying out the claimed method, where the device was not used to practice the claimed method until well after the critical date, and where there was evidence that it was not even known whether the device could perform the claimed process).
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