Thursday, August 9, 2012

Gambit

I do not have the patience to be much of a chess player. (I do play the computer on long flights) I think we just witnessed a strategic gambit.  The '37 patent is now aboard with no restrictions, without any judicial review, limitation or challenge.
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SkunK

115 comments:

Anonymous said...

Just seems strange that the plants did not fight this in any manner.

nobody12378 said...

"Inadvertently filed"??? WE the common shareholders paid $600,000 last quarter and $150,000 this quarter in legal fees. Mistakes of any kind, considering the life-and-death consequences of this litigation for GERS and us, are not reassuring.

nobody12378 said...

Another unusual trading pattern this morning. Many, relatively small trades, all at the ASK; this has in the past meant accumulation. But that occurred with some upward movement in the ASK which has not occurred today, so far, and what makes this pattern unusual.

Anonymous said...

that was me buying....12X 25k shares at .01 cost..i am done..if it crahes so be it..

nobody12378 said...

Interesting that almost a half a million shares, probably 1% of the current OS (50 million+) traded in an hour and the ASK did not budge.

Anonymous said...

very interesting indeed, I think you should check investor relations why this substantial issue is not addressed.
Somebody invested $5000 we have a right that the ask should bulge.
We demand explanation.
Could the person who bought those shares file his name and address so we can file a class action

Anonymous said...

i just bought 300k shares...i hate this stock but if the company prevails...it will become valuable in any oil supply crisis or war disruption...both likely in next 5 years..glta...i feel sick...but it is over ..i own this junk

Anonymous said...

There's your budge, up 20% now.

Anonymous said...

nobody ur crackho mom is buying mil shares today???

Anonymous said...

it went up 20% just after i bought the last of my total order of 400,000 at .01 per share...means nothing...the downside is 20 billion dilution....as i have said,the technicals are shattered, it is pure hope and guessing about the court outcome and future market share growth..glta

the USA Navy is setting up biodiesel ports all around the planet to fuel their jets...they anticipate problems waging war with petroleum distalates alone..glta

nobody12378 said...

A 550,000 dilution was intermingled. I wonder how the MMs balanced all the trades -- a good 2% of the OS? It is not the dollar amount but the percentage of the OS -- are all those shares that readily available?

Anonymous said...

that is the problem...there is no price equilibrium to decipher when companies add printed shares...supply becomes infinite and demand is people like me guessing that dilution ends soon and absorb that supply...certainly no chart analysis is remotely possible using standard price volume characteristics...there are no benchmark volumes at particular price levels...i bought because sometimes round price numbers are defended by stock operaters...trust me if this issue pans out there are/ will be operators making this thing hellish to hold on to for fair/overvaluation at some point...way in the future..

Anonymous said...

nobody - those shares are as easily available as your mom

Anonymous said...

i just bought 400k...it is posible that two benchmark volumes exist on the daily chart...6/8/12 2.4 million shares close price .0196
and 7/6/12 4.5 million shares close price .0175..

so, the daily AB=CD patern shows that the recent .07 low price is a normal fibinocci 1:1.618 expansion of the B to C leg....it becomes essential for .07 price low to HOLD for ever more or significantly lower prices will emerg...
that is the best technical call that I can possibly make..glta

Anonymous said...

i meant that the .007 MUST hold or much lower prices directly ahead

Anonymous said...

also if .007 does hold then price could go significantly higher on the right sort of fundemental news..once price lifts the daily then weekly technicals will establish support and resistance zones which allow the traders to pick up the trading volume and then you have lift off....

Anonymous said...

Well thought out. Well stated. And well rationalized.
Also you have no fuking clue. Your just spewing nonsense

Anonymous said...

neilbody having a bad day?

Anonymous said...

yes, i am guessing that the worst of the dilution is ended...but it is true that .007 MUST HOLD or way lower price is ahead..That is fact that any chartist would agree too. plus no chartist would buy this issue...you are crude..it is my gamble

nobody12378 said...

The vulgarity of many of these responses could lead to the Skunk to remove this courtesy. Frankly, to be criticized by such Cretins is a badge of honor.

nobody12378 said...

Anony 10:39: Why didn't you wait the few days until the Q2 is out. You would have had a better read on the OS count and perhaps, just perhaps, some additional information upon which to base your decision?

Anonymous said...

Nobody, I believe the monthly attorney fees are $50,000, not $150,000.

nobody12378 said...

My statement was $150,000 this QUARTER.

Anonymous said...

i am anny 10:39 and i will call myself techguess on this page going forward...

i bought before any news on the technicals...regardless of the news i know i am wrong if the thing closes below .007...so under .007 i will look to exit, take my loss and try to re-enter way lower...

i never care about news...by the time you hear news it is already in the price...i hate this stock but it is a huge gamble based on what i have learned if it prevaols in court...

Anonymous said...

sub penny didnt last long up %40 an nobodys pissed off

Anonymous said...

techguess,
This stock is a huge gamble

Anonymous said...

I guess that's better then being pissed on which he deserves.

Anonymous said...

Nobody would enjoy a golden shower from the cadets.

Anonymous said...

why hate on nobody he didnt tell you to hand over your money.

if your going to hate ... hate on SKunk and Slash they are the fools telling you to spend your money
with all this good news from those 2 this stock will be 100 a share sorry...
or how about the lame duck CEO here Kevin

Anonymous said...

^how about the lame duck dump nobody is taking on you?

Anonymous said...

This stock Is junk. Straight money grab 40 M of debt but no proof where the money went.
Yeah the got a couple pattens yeah they got some customers but who knows the % of each one? No news about the company blame it on the lawyers but the CEO is one too.
Its not a news blackout . It's a robbery of shareholders pockets

Anonymous said...

Waaaaah you done crying loser.

Anonymous said...

neilbody drunk posting late?^1105 1250

Anonymous said...

Actually you are the loser because you haven't seen the light yet maybe it will click on after this next split come up here at the end of the year.

Anonymous said...

from techguess,
slash and skunk are shills for gers..or worst investors in the planet...until proven wrong or right

Anonymous said...

by techguess,
all of the sudden today...volume is not available to buy...share printing stopped before news?...if so, this thing will run...and if some real financing occurs based on patent values alone?..glta

Anonymous said...

techguess reporting,

no shares available for purchase yet down here at these prices...slow down in dilution?..no clue...possible great news soon...this thing looks great compared to many penny shares companies...

Anonymous said...

by techguess,
first stochastic buy signal on daily, confirmed by macd crossover, since june 8th....the buy signal is macd confirmed...all i can say is that in this stock that could change in 5 minutes if dilution resumes...enjoy it while it lasts..

Anonymous said...

by techguess,
is this the point of maximum negativity?...very little banter...people gladley bought at 15 fold higher prices less than a year ago...but will not buy 10% higher today?..possibly

Anonymous said...

by techguess,

if price can rise above the benchmark then game on...benchmark price with volume is july 6 with price .02 on 4.6 million shares....this would not be you and me buying, this would be an operator/hedge....so watch for a close above .02 as the short term target...then if .022 is closed above from june 8th it is clear sailing above..glta

Anonymous said...

by techguess,

i think this may be the time to finally get excited about this issue....low volume accumulation has been happening since may4 price floor of .01...this base has been held....plus two massive benchmark purchases by other than individual investors....you must take the data for what it is...price floor is 0.01....there are undeniable signs of big players at those two benchmark volume days described above....significant fundemental news due soon...and the next quarterly may surprise on the revenue side...whats not to like...the court system seems favorable why not investors...this may be the buy moment you have waited for...i have no idea what will happen but this is connecting the dots game best as i can...i want a 100k more shares...but not today...unless volume picks up, which it may not...which is good for my existing 400k share load...this is how a trader thinks...

Anonymous said...

stocks up an nobodys nowhere to be found
what a coward

Anonymous said...

He's still drunk from last night sleeping it off in mommys basement.

nobody12378 said...

The more the disciples spew the more they prove how delusional they are; "the stock is up" -- from .013 to .0131. I no longer need to point out the obvious, they are doing such a good job by themselves.

nobody12378 said...

techguess did you go by the moniker "Totaltruth"? You are starting to sound less than skeptical, a remarkable turn around in a day.

Anonymous said...

by techguess,
i am techguess and that is it...i am using as much chart data as is available to enter this enourmously speculative issue...i bought prior to the previous split and am down 99%...i am trying to survive...what are you a silver spoon licker..nobody and nothing go together....put your pud un your mouth

Anonymous said...

Lol by the size of the posts and the bs involved I think your right

Anonymous said...

by techguess,
also, i forgot to add corn/drought low yield issues to concerns of future world war and Navy expansion of biodesel driven jets...and just plain old oil shocks in the next 5 years...as long as gers survives it will have its time in the sun...then know when to exit

nobody12378 said...

Your hyper defensive and non responsive retort lends me to believe otherwise. Why is this even important? Too many pied pipers have led way too many here to distraction. Just trying to sort out the actors. There is no printed play bill. I await your next belligerence.

Anonymous said...

Nobody, you're a big mean bully. I don't like you. GERS doesn't like you. I like GERS, though.

Anonymous said...

by techguess,

nobody123 is a talkamasterbater...he knows nothing...he does not know fundementals or technicals...he is nobody....is that hyperresponsive enough..mr.nobody?

Anonymous said...

by techguess,
good point at i-hub....the ethanol manufacturers will see that they made an error not buying gers oil extractors....the high corn price will hit their earnings and no oil to soften that hit....eventually they will capitulate and reverse the poor decision to not buy gers....

Anonymous said...

0ne hour to see if a share print/dump occurs....once investors know that share printing ends...the existing shares will be snapped up, quickly IMHO

Anonymous said...

by techguess,

i just added 50k shares at .0128..

supply was tight and fills took about 30 minutes to fill and did so in partial irregular fashion...is dilution on hold ??...but who would sell now before possible good news?

Anonymous said...

Anon 11:36 - How do you know so much about his personal life and habits?

nobody12378 said...

Just as I thought. You people try to camouflage yourselves, but you are really transparent. You know what they say, a tiger cannot change its stripes. Here a penny flipper is always a penny flipper looking for his small return, then playing his pipe for others to follow elsewhere.

Anonymous said...

by techguess,

look nobody is being nothing...witness this all...witness how a nobody acts as a true nobody....lick your silver spoon or ball...

Anonymous said...

did your mom tell you that nobody ^?

Anonymous said...

by techguess,

some harmonic points in the gers chart...on 120 minute chart note that the all important 200ema is at price .024...this coresponds to the price benchmark breakout level...that interests chartists...also, on a daily chart the 200ema is priced at .122...if this is surpased it is off to the races...

this may or may not occur,,,,just that this is very important chart price points...closing above the daily 200ema will be hitting the lotery in terms of chart positive experience...

Anonymous said...

nobody your just a little b&tch

Anonymous said...

We closed up for the second day in a row! I know how dissapointing this is for some, but it makes me happy.

Anonymous said...

lots more buys then sells strange for a friday

Anonymous said...

Great PPS action this week. The drought is making all rethink about how much oil can get pulled out for sale.

Anonymous said...

Gers 1-1/3# Icm 1/2 # eos

Anonymous said...

techguess, I am glad to see you. You bring more data to this site than has been brought since the whiners and insulters came aboard. This blog previously was not so vulgar. Skunk stopped the comments for awhile because of all the nonsense.

Look at the volume trade around the 6th to 10th of the last six months. Beginning in June, there are high volumes during these days that was not happening before then. My only theories are GERS did not make it's payments to YAGI so YAGI exersized it's option, or there are new financing deals being done that involve some level of ownership in the company.

Can you shed any light on this activity? And please all else do not comment unless you have something of substance to contribute without demeaning behavior.

I am a GERS invester, GLTA

Anonymous said...

by techguess,
thanks for being positive annony 9;44

i know nothing about the company other than what the sites says and the government documents...clearly since june 1 2012 the .01 price is support..i know that ...and i know that those two large multimillion dollar day purchases of shares in june and july, i believe,is the telltale sign of hedge or institutional operators taking a position...that is exactly all that the chart really says...

plus the general fundemental melage told me to pull the trigger again...
i know nothing else and certainly not what the future has in store..

oh also a close below .007 with mor volume is the kiss of death...it is all over again for another cycle of time...but if this is the cycle low for this stock you may well get wealthy...IMHO

nobody12378 said...

Technical mumble-jumbo means nothing for an (almost) sub-penny stock. Those that claim so are either confused or pied-pipers; we have enough of those. For example, any idea what a 100 million dollar settlement would mean to the PPS? There is nothing in support levels or regression analyses that can even hint at the implications of a settlement worth 300 times a company's market cap. We are gambling here, plain and simple, with odds better than a lottery and rewards greater than putting your money in a Fortune 500 company; but there is no statistical modelling that will help except for perhaps the theory of "Gambler's Ruin". There have been several studies at Wharton and elsewhere that document the futility of "technical" analyses for stocks like GERS. If Monday we go to a half a penny and Tuesday a cash settlement is announced -- I think the message is clear.

Anonymous said...

by techguess,

i already said all that no one nobody...i agree...as in highly speculative...technicals do provide a windsock not a crystal ball...i tried to say that over and over...you are angry person...

but tell tale sighns are emerging that in retrospect would shout that was the message of this stock...as i said before, price below .007 price on volume over 10% greater is the END of the .01 support...that you CAN take to the poor house

Anonymous said...

the nobody not bashing an stock will rise theory proved right

Slashnuts said...

Corn LP Q212 Newsletter

Very Nice Job From The Corn LP Team!

http://cornlp.com/Newsletters/August12.pdf

Although there's no hard numbers for corn oil, it's clear Corn LP wouldn't have made a $559K profit without corn oil extraction technology. Both of the pictures are of corn oil testing equipment. The first tests the moisture level of the oil. The second tests the amount of oil in the DDG's.

With the drought, producers need every drop of oil they can get. They need to get as much as they can from every bushel of corn. The trend as of late appears to be exactly that, producers are extracting as much as possible.

According to GERS in their most recent PR, "...the desire for additional recovery grows each day."

The long awaited method II couldn't come at a better time, when producers need it most. The simple fact that method II gets more than double the oil, GERS is seperating itself from the competition, or lack thereof.

Good Luck To All!$!$!$!$

Anonymous said...

Defendants are screwed no way out.

Anonymous said...

Thanks techguess, you are a new breed on this blog. I offer the following for consideration.

It has been known for decades the soybean industry crushes for meal and relies on soybean oil as a by-product that drives profits. On the other hand, the cottonseed oil industry crushes for cottonseed oil and relies on meal and hulls as a by-product that drives profits.

Interestingly here we find a new ethanol industry that is learning decade old knowledge of hedging markets in their industry whereby the primary product is not the primary source of tipping the balance sheet.

I remember when ethanol companies basically printed money and GERS could not hardly give them a corn oil extraction system. Now corn oil extraction has become a new business model for ethanol producers. However, if GERS does not successfully defend their patents, all could be for not.

Big oil, for instance (Sunoco is not big oil) has shunned GERS along with POET, ADM, Cargill and others. So this will be a long slog for GERS to get the recognition and respect they deserve in this industry. There seems to be many (ICM and others) that are kicking themselves in the proverbial for not having this vision and are now trying to say they were that smart.

The litigation is critical and will always be for GERS. However, it is how they conduct themselves beyond the legislation that will determine whether GERS is worthy or not. In other words, are they hanging the hat on this litigation or are they moving with further developments and technology (patents) in other areas.

I suggest the latter is the plan as syrup drying and biopolymers are on the horizon.

I am a GERS invester, GLTA.

Anonymous said...

nobody you are such an idiot, wall street banks make billions a day using technical analysis, trading everything...go back to sucking your moms saggy tits

nobody12378 said...

" ... as i said before, price below .007 price on volume over 10% greater is the END of the .01 support...that you CAN take to the poor house ..."

Absolute nonsense. What drives this stock is debt, litigation, dilution, corporate governance, and earnings. You could have a complete washout one-day with YAGI disposing of all its shares driving the price to trips, and the next day, with new financing announced, you could not catch this with a Jupiter rocket launcher. None of this would apply to AAPL for example if/when they win their Samsung suit. You are misleading folks with these non sequitur incantations and that is worthy of real anger and distrust.

Slashnuts said...

BIOF: Oil Yields Surge 51% In 3 Months! .65 Pounds Per Bushel!

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1373670/000114420412044185/v319778_10q.htm

I'm very impressed with how quickly BIOF has ramped up corn oil production.

They're already extracting at .65 pounds per bushel and expect yields to go even higher.

BIOF extracted 10,318,000 pounds in Q2 which is about 51% higher than the 6,842,000 pounds reported in Q112.

Total oil revenue this quarter was $4,000,000.

In the call, they talked about how the corn around their plants is doing well. This is due to the fact that there's extensive irrigation equipment in the area. Advanced BioEnergy also spoke about irrigation equipment around their plants.

As soon as I get a chance, I'll post the highlights from BIOF's CC.

Good Luck To All!$!$!$!$

nobody12378 said...

" ... wall street banks make billions a day using technical analysis ... " on stocks like GERS. If you really believe that then you are a fool and you should lose every cent, that is the lot of fools.

Anonymous said...

techguess,

When you get a chance, please ignore these "techno-wizards" and replay.

I am a GERS invester, GLTA.

Anonymous said...

Ya global is no bank....a bank would never loan a penny to company with greenshift's current standing.

Anonymous said...

neilbody playing with himself again^

Anonymous said...

God your a funny %$#@&%

Anonymous said...

Looks like "BoBo the clown" better go to a different board and act stupid

TEX

Slashnuts said...

Potsdam-based clean energy company opens Ireland station
WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 8, 2012

"POTSDAM — Potsdam clean-energy company ZeroPoint Clean Tech Inc. has begun producing heat and power at its second site in Newry, Ireland.

The company’s first site is in Germany.

ZeroPoint turns biomass, such as wood chips and agricultural waste, into renewable gas with zero emissions at costs comparable to more traditional fuel.

The gas in Ireland will produce power for the local utility grid.

ZeroPoint is working to create similar sites across North America and Europe."

http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/article/20120808/NEWS05/708089786/0/ht=9:

I really like the last paragraph since GERS owns the exclusive rights to ZeroPoint's patented technology in North America.

I truely believe one of next steps for ethanol producers is to utilize wood chips and leftover agricultural waste to power their plants.

I thought Corn LP said something interesting in their newsletter when they talked about converting from coal to natural gas. A natural gas plant can utilize the syngas from the gasification process that GERS owns a portion of. Corn LP said, "Moving forward, we believe this major project, which is now
just in the preliminary stages, will ultimately not only convert
our system from a coal operated one to a natural gas system,
but most importantly it will position CORN, LP for a number
of future opportunities that are now just beginning to unfold as
this industry’s evolution continues."

Good Luck To All!$!$!$!$!$

Anonymous said...

All three coal fired plants have or will be switching to natural gas because of the regulations and cost. GS was not a consideration in any of those decisions.

nobody12378 said...

Anony 7:48 -- Here come the disciples, the euphoric ones; you have stated something they do not want to hear. You will be labelled a basher or JimNobody something.

Anonymous said...

Anony 7:48 stated a fact of the situation. He didn't go around posting about how the stock is going to plummet or how it’s going to take years to recover.

Anony 7:48 didn't post ridiculous theories with the only intent being to scare investors away.

That is stuff that you do, NoBody. That is why YOU'RE called a basher. A panic poster.

If you posted information that can be researched as fact, and didn't manipulate the reader with your twisted doom-and-gloom theories, you probably wouldn't be considered a basher either.

So don't categorize honest people as being like you. They're not pricks.

nobody12378 said...

I was called a "panic" poster for each of the previous TEN predictions over the last 18 months. They all materialized. I suspect that you were one of those calling me a "panic" poster when I stated that the PPS would fall below a penny when it was a nickel. That makes ELEVEN "panic" posts (by your hallucinatory definition), all of which materialized. The only PANIC here is in the mind of the euphoric disciples when confronted with the reality of how long it is going to take to recover their investment and profit after that.

G'd these cadets keep rising to the bait; because they are so panicked.

Anonymous said...

dip chit donkey^

Anonymous said...

What's syngas? Is that when you fart in church or something?
Loyd

Anonymous said...

by techguess,

the fundemental news by bloggers like slasnuts is compeling...it all centers on whether or not dilution ends or demand for supply diluted or stable increases...

it is that simple, the supply and demand for this issue must cross postive...demand must simply and immediatly exceed supply, like as in NOW, to hold price...

if dilution continues with better accounting numbers than maybe price can hold....if dilution stops with better accounting numbers then price probably appreciates due to assumed accumulation of a now finite number of shares..

that is the exact nature of this gamble at this moment in time as i see it....it boils down to the supply/demand curve of the gers shares...pure and simple

sincerely, techguess

nobody12378 said...

This "compelling" news has been coming unabated from Slash and other posters for five plus years. You know now how that has helped buoy the PPS. You only have the scenario partly correct. The dilution will not stop until YAGI and others are paid off, that refinancing will not occur until the litigation is over, and that end-point is far on the horizon. Even this is an optimistic scenario; if KK decides to go after Poet and Cargill. That litigation will likely delay new financing further. So, as I said, only a (small) part of the story.

Anonymous said...

I thought. Cargill has method 2

lambertus said...

Anon 7.48

Moving forward, we believe this major project, which is now
just in the preliminary stages, will ultimately not only convert
our system from a coal operated one to a natural gas system,
but most importantly it will position CORN, LP for a number
of future opportunities that are now just beginning to unfold as
this industry’s evolution continues

Anonymous said...

lol loyd you make me laugh GO GERS!!

Anonymous said...

lol loyd you make me laugh GO GERS!!

Anonymous said...

lol loyd you make me laugh GO GERS!!

Anonymous said...

anony 1:51 Calgren not cargill has methed 2 cargill runs biof

Anonymous said...

Thanks for clearing tHat up.

Anonymous said...

Am I mistaken or doesn't Cargill own them and Biof runs them?

Anonymous said...

by techguess,
worth repeating..
price oly goes up because demand exceeds supply.....


if no good accounting or legal news occurs it is safe to say demand will not go up and price will be flat or if dilution continues price will continue down...that is it folks....that supply demand curve drives any and all stock price...it is not magic that drives price
by techguess

Anonymous said...

Is GS for.sale?

Anonymous said...

Yes so is Disneyland

Anonymous said...

nobodys mom will buy it with all her food stamp money

Anonymous said...

When did Disneyland hit the market? I saw nothing on the wire services about this?

Anonymous said...

by techguess,

if this gers thing is going up, then...the first target is 8/3/12 price high of .017 with 892,000 shares...that price high must be exceeded in about three days time with conviction...meaning volume should be 20% or so more...glta longs..we need it

Anonymous said...

by techguess,
professionals come it at end of day for buy orders...so we will not know till next few days end if sufficient volume characteristics are developing....volume is very light so far today...leaving no clue if conviction exists behind the recent price climb...i am definitely anxious..glta

Anonymous said...

by techguess,
said another way...the lack of conviction(volume) behind this last few days price move is very scary....no conviction means no sustainability....right now and here this price move looks unsustainable...sorry ...numbers do not lie...people do

nobody12378 said...

You can get out now with about 10 - 15% gain, pretty good for a penny flipper.

Anonymous said...

You can hold on for 100 -150% if your in at a penny your half there

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Anonymous said...

where is SUB PENNY nobody?

you cum guzzzler

nobody12378 said...

We already had it, blind one.

Anonymous said...

wheres the 50 million dip chit^

nobody12378 said...

It didn't materialize. The 2.3 factor used in the previous two quarters as a multiplier for the known diluted shares was not in evidence this quarter. Now go to your corner and blow your snotty little nose.

Anonymous said...

10 -15% my ass try 90

Anonymous said...

Get real. Shorts are pooping in their pants tech.

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