Friday, June 8, 2012

ICM AOS Patent

See Here

What may be also significant here is I see NO mention of the tricanter system on the ICM site.   EXCEPT for a link to a tricanter near the bottom of this page - which simply goes to the AOS information.

The AOS is designed and is more efficient as an add on (to any COES system).
SkunK

55 comments:

Anonymous said...

Anyone want to speculate what effect ICM's new patent approval could have on GreenShift?

Anonymous said...

sounds like the result of tromping on greenshift's first mover technology, entwine with green bugger flipping. cant wait for the (punitive) damages phase.

Ps and Bs.

nobody12378 said...

Come on Raven, Truth, others; where is the chatter, where is the Cis Boom Ba, where is the old college spirit, are the pom-poms too heavy? Well you are right about one thing that I think that you now realize; it is going to be very hard to maintain the psychic energy here while events develop over the long haul. (Note to pumper dumper adherents -- it is not going to happen here in my opinion, and that is almost from the horse's mouth). And if you have been reading my thesis over the years you will know that all of this falsely directed enthusiasm was counter productive -- the energy is now spent. Until we get a new crop of believers or until we get new financing, it probably will be pretty dull around here. It is even difficult for me now to incite the disciples to rouse from their somnolence caused by the exhaustion of unrequited expectations with my "pimping of the cadets".

Anonymous said...

what a idiot

Anonymous said...

Actually he is right on message and in the long run more faithful to GERS than almost any one here.

Anonymous said...

nobody 1048

nobody12378 said...

That's 10-4 big buddy!

kimbrowntxselect said...

Seriously what is getting old is your comments Nobody. I literally have kept away from the other Blog site because of you constant hammering. You remind me of a co-worker that always comes to work in a negative mood and moans and complains just to bring everyone down into your level of unhappiness. It would be nice if this blog was not highjacked seeing it was only kept to facts and not name blame games ect.

jimmowrey said...

To the point that he even went as far as meeting the top dogs. Let's give him some credit.

Anonymous said...

good morning jimmbody

Anonymous said...

I'm faithful to my wife but I don't spend my day pointing out in forums everything she needs to do to make her life better. If anything, I should be looking at myself and asking what I can do to make her life better. What can you do to make GERS better? Telling everyone that it sucks for years on end really hasn't worked, has it?

nobody12378 said...

Brownie,

Now we have the ball rolling, give it your best shot, you can do better than "negative" can't you?

kimbrowntxselect said...

I promise we are not on nickname levels and no, I have other things at work to work on that make me money other than sit around and posting I told you so's. I have a life outside of Gers.

Anonymous said...

Icm removed all tricanter stuff? looks like we won.

Anonymous said...

yes now that the smoke balls are rolling give that bottle rocket the best shot up his ass-he likes it

Anonymous said...

SKREEEETCH*POP!

nobody12378 said...

Is there really ANY difference between mindless repetition of factual information and mindless repetition of nonfactual cheer leading? I think not, and in fact, one is a defensive response to the other. When the latter ceases its crescendo of noise pollution the former will as well, albeit with a sense of loss for the daily repartee.

nobody12378 said...

MS. Brown -- too bad, I was hoping for something original.

Anonymous said...

Is their any difference between nobody and his other names he posts under I think not.

Anonymous said...

If AOS is designed and is more efficient as a add on to COES then Gers patents are still required to get to the oil? It sounds like this is just a recoverable additive system.

Anonymous said...

This is to Nobody12378.
I don't know about others here and on iHub.. but I am here to invest in a STOCK, not a COMPANY.

Yes, my initial investment and continual hold is based on my faith of GreenShift being a very succesful company with huge growth potential.
But I'm not here to watch some executives build a nice portfolio, I am invested here to make money on GERS stock.

In that regard, I would much rather have cheerleading, helping investors to see the great potential GreenShift has as both a company, and subsequently it's stock, rather than "factual" (all though more panic-based than fact-based) repetitive posting, scaring away investors from even bothering to do their own Due Diligence.

These investors never see the potential GreenShift has because they see your constantly negative and biased comments and get scared away.

Again, I'm here to make money. I don't honestly care how it happens. I have watched plenty of stocks jump 100's% for companies that were downright awful, and I'm sure none of their stock investors cared about the company when they were making those gains.

We are fortunate enough here to have invested in a company that IS actually GREAT. That DOES have HUGE growth potential.

But I am here to make money. When someone gets in my way by constantly scaring off new investors with b.s. theories and consistent pesimism, that angers me.

Please Nobody, do all of us GERS investors a real favor and stop posting your garbage. For every one decent point you might make that gathers a follower like Jim, you make another 100 negative, false points that cause nothing but potential panic and scare investors away.

Thank God I invested in GERS before I knew there were any blogs or forums about it, because I sure as hell would of been scared away if all I saw was your constant bashing.

And it's interesting how you have to point out and ask where the 'cheerleaders' are.

We genuinely get excited about this company and it's stock.
You, on the other hand, have a clear motive to drive this stock down, since you put SO much energy into constantly posting negative things about it.

Someone without a motive would just walk away, but you keep driving negative comments, and then question the energy of "cheerleaders".

Why do you have so much energy to constantly post negative comments if there is no motive behind it?

And quite frankly, I don't even think I'd trust your account when you have your "meeting" with a GreenShift executive. Who's to say that the executive tells you great things, and you come back and tells us a bunch of panic-based lies to continue driving the price down?
Who's to say you even have a meeting at all and don't just make one up to your liking?

Unless there's a video of the meeting, I'll be trusting your account of it with a grain of salt. With your appearent negative motive that becomes clearer and clearer over time, I just can't trust anything you say without proving substantial evidence of being fact.

So no Jim, I won't give him credit for that.

Anonymous said...

Same here, have a disgusted feeling that Skunks blog is high-jacked.
I like the suggestion from a anon that you should create your own blog.

And yes there is a difference when someone comes in office every morning with "what a shit day" instead of "good morning"

Difficult to imagine but everybody is entitled to his own mistakes..Maybe politics is something for your abundant free time?

nobody12378 said...

If you spent a dime based on any comment in a blog, you are a weak-minded idiot. "Oh please help me make money by saying nice things about GERS so I can make money now by co-opting others with less insights than I to buy this stock so that my value will grow". Pathetic!

Anonymous said...

he's an idiot lets see any example of mindless repetition of nonfactual cheer leading from kim brown

Anonymous said...

Well written and thoughful.

It will have no effect on nobody.

In his mind he rides a white horse and everyone else is an idiot. A mental disease with many different names however he projects his disease on to others.

He has no idea of the psycholgy of stocks.

You see a beautiful Miss American. He digs through her shat and points out every kernnel of half digested corn. Both things may be technically true, but most would agree his "vision of the truth!" is sick.

Anonymous said...

ICM has announced that they will begin converting existing customers over to the AOS system to avoid any future royalties that might be paid GERS if they prevail in the patent fight. Ironically one of GERS biggest royalty producers is GPRE, who has installed mostly all ICM systems, will not be able to take advantage of AOS to avoid royalty payments because of thier existing licensed agreement between GPRE and GERS.

I suspect that more companies are developing work around solutions that all but dry up future hopes royalty payments for GERS.

Had GERS been more reasonable in the beginning of the corn oil extraction boom with respect royalty % and how they approached the market place, they would not be in the position they are in today. How does that old southern saying go…”pigs get fat while hogs get slaughtered”

GERS is losing the battle on all fronts. ***STRONG SELL***

Anonymous said...

Gers systems extract more oil then Icm plus the Aos has to have a Gers plant in there to get the oil. Gers customers make more money cause they get more oil.

BillV said...

You go right ahead and sell.

Anonymous said...

The beginning of your comment sounded to me like GERS is winning. You ended it with assuming GERS royalty rates are concrete and that they would never negotiate them.

If it came down to it, I'm sure GERS would negotiate royalty rates, and their systems are still far more effective.

Doughmaker said...

see this post from slash hes right its the same dude from yohoo

nobody12378

Need some new blood here. Great news or any bump in the PPS should provide a new cast of characters. This groups has had its run.


todu5613a

With reorganization he could issue new stock and sucker in new shareholders to get new blood and more money.


nobody12378

Who would want to sell all those shares for less than the cost of a sheet of toilet paper...

todu5613a

Toilet paper is worth more. I wonder which costs more a sheet of toilet paper or a share of GERS.

nobody12378

OOPS! They just filled up the 0.0001 bucket

todu5613a

OOPS! after all the "good" news we still sit here on the bottom

nobody12378

I am one person that has been preaching patience and I still second the motion.

todu5613a
Most of these so called "green" companies are just a fraud cashing in on the hysteria that albore is preaching.

todu5613a

Not a word from the company other than through skunk or Slash. The silence is deafening.

nobody12378

The silence is deafening. The ICM web site is a also silent.

todu5613a

It defies logic even with Kevins management.

nobody12378

I do not understand your logic.

todu5613a

it looks like massive dilution to me especially after the last RS.

nobody12378

Why would massive dilution at 0.0001 imply good news is coming out?

todu5613a

Actions speak louder than words and I see no actions to help shareholder value


nobody12378

Have you heard of the old saying, "actions speak louder than words"?


todu5613a

And how many times have we heard that before? Just wait until next quarter or next year

nobody12378

In other words, we have long, road here. Have you heard that before?

todu5613a

See what they are saying about Greenshift or should I say Greenshifty ?

nobody12378

That did not happen before with previous Greenshifty

todu5613a

now that we have more signed on we wont need the RS and the pps will go up considerably. NOT!

nobody12378

Sounds like a company concerned about its shareholders. NOT!

todu5613a

I see the pimps are back that know absolutely nothing about this company.

nobody12378

Nothing, absolutely nothing!!
pimp the cadets

todu5613a

Should have just kept my winnings instead of gambling on this one

nobody12378

It is time to collect our winnings

todu5613a

So here we sit in limbo again.

nobody12378

I am sure that the pps will stay in limbo.


todu5613a

The reason GERS did so many RSs is from lack of competant management and lack of respect to be able to get proper financing.

nobody12378

Many have to do with shoddy management, others include lack of any shareholder input or control.

todu5613a

with all this good news and increased income we would not be sitting at the same old pps for month after month


nobody12378

With all the good news the pps should have moved IF this was a "normal" equity.

todu5613a

First of all there has to be income and profits so dont hold your breath

nobody12378

but folks hold your breath

todu5613a

Have a great weekend folks.

nobody12378

Sometimes Slash gets so animated in his discourse you can't tell the possible from the probable from the certain licensees.

todu5613a

Reasonable discourse is welcome even if we disagree

Doughmaker said...

slash is right its the same dude

nobody12378

I love gardening does that count?

todu5613a

The only green I want is money in my pocket,well other than in my garden...Ok time to go play in the garden weedin and a hoein.

nobody12378

Two words -- Investor Confidence; lack thereof.

todu5613a

If a high dollar investor had confidence... or lack therof.

nobody12378

Texas! Sounds too much like taxes.

todu5613a

Texas is a Republic... Actually thought about retireing there but cant afford the taxes.

nobody12378

if they are not able to ultimately prevail it is lights out for GERS.

todu5613a

Oh well last one out turn out the lights.

nobody12378

Good to see some humor here even if it is gallows humor.

todu5613a

It is good to have a sense of humor as it keeps from being despondent about never making a net profit

nobody12378

Sounds like a company concerned about its shareholders. NOT!

todu5613a

Been away for a few days and expected this to be over a penny by now. NOT!

now that we have more signed on we wont need the RS and the pps will go up considerably. NOT!


nobody12378

OOPS! The sells at 0.0001 just picked up.

todu5613a

OOPS! fell off back to .0001

nobody12378

Right now it feels as if we are waiting for our execution.

todu5613a

The waiting is worse than the execution.

nobody12378

I am responding to the unjustified hysteria that KK has righted the ship

todu5613a

cashing in on the hysteria that albore is preaching... It is an exciting time watching this ship sink instead of righting itself.

nobody12378

Wouldn't that be a pleasant surprise?

todu5613a

IT will be a very pleasant surprise if we ever see a rise in PPS that will make much of a difference for us.


nobody12378

but I won't be bamboozled.

todu5613a

you've been bamboozled!

Nobody12378

Anonymous said...

Rex said they get a half pound Gers can get twice that how is this supposed to be better?

nobody12378 said...

If you go to BillV's sane site you will find real information based on his recently developed data about the potential yearly royalties based on current corn oil production today, and current corn oil prices today. Once the financing and patent issues are behind GERS a large portion of this is on their horizon. So you get rich now people sell now because your dreams of quick riches have not been realized.

Anonymous said...

its not their desperate and it still requires the use of Gers patents. alls it is a recoverable additive system. look how tricanter is gone from their site their done.

nobody12378 said...

Look at what I got going at 10:29 -- much better than watching nothing happen to our stock. A little "nosh" for the palette.

Anonymous said...

Yay! I think an obvious win to this litigation is in the near future for both GERS and us! =)

Anonymous said...

I feel like ICM's removal of the tricanter stuff along with the 45-pager will be one big combined "We give up" response. Looking forward to it.. especially if I'm right.

totaltruth said...

Hello everyone,

Just pulled in to the port at aruba. Sorry I've been of the grid no internet as far out as I've been. Been doing a little deep sea fishing and drinking mai tais. I now have over 1mil free shares my broker has been doing me right while I've been on vacation talk to y'all when I get back GLTA LONGS!

Anonymous said...

GRES will take on the whole industry and beyond!!!! Just bring your A game becuase we have ours!

Have a great weekend!

Anonymous said...

stocks up again another bad day for nobody

Anonymous said...

"as an add on" = payday for the longs!

You know if this litigation goes our way new financing is just around the corner. I believe that is where we're headed. GLTA,

totaltruth said...

Hmm! I'm forgetting something ! Oh ya I was supposed to let nobody and jim or jimbooby or some nonsense like that know when I was putting in a buy order! Oh well I forgot suppose its a little late to tell them now. I was not done buying. Oh yeah my client wasn't either! LMFAO! I hope you all was able to find what I did with my dd. GLTA LONGS!

Anonymous said...

Total, was that 2Million buy yours?

totaltruth said...

Not all of it my client bought 1mil.

Anonymous said...

Why sell now and settle for losses when if you hold, there may be percentages. I have lost so much money on this stock, the little I have left is a drop in the bucket. So i will just hold it long and see what happens. if I lose it all, that is nothing compared to what I already lost.

After funding this company for over six years, I either gain or lose. However, any venture capatalist will tell you they only profit on 10% of their investments, but those 10% far out gain the 90% losses. This is risk management. A venture capatalist once told me if he is making profit on over 10% of his investments, he is doing something wrong because it is the riskier big hits he is after (think microsoft, google, facebook, staples, Toys R Us, Apple, and many others).

Is GERS of this caliber? I cannot say at this time, but I lose nothing to hold and wait.

I am a GERS invester. GLTA

Anonymous said...

Total idiot,

You will never convince anyone on this blog that you just dumped 10's of thousands on a penny stock, and or, convinced "a client" to do the same. Further, if you did, you would be sharing your DD to convince others to buy in and drive your investment up. Finally, that was not a retail trade yesterday. It was impossible for you to simply buys those up. I guess that now makes you a total liar.

nobody12378 said...

The real question is the significance of those late day trades. I agree they were not routine trades, which begs the question, what were those trades? Did they represent an acute need for cash by the company? Did they represent new financing (e.g. YAGI was required to divest itself of all shares when the loan was paid? The amount of shares was about the 5% they were limited to holding). The latter is a wonderful thought as all things positive for the company start with new non diluting financing

Anonymous said...

I don't know what those trades were either.. but I wish they were mine.

jimmowrey said...

There must have been a pre-arranged deal to line up a trade of that size. I think it is a good sign either way. Someone took interest in buying a very large amount of shares, regardless of why GERS wanted to give them up. I also find it unique that the trades went down at below bid pricing.

Anonymous said...

maybe they'll settle, team up and go after poet, valero and adm. $$$$$$

totaltruth said...

What if I want to buy more? And tell me who you are as well as what makes you think it wasn't a public trade it showed up not like the 5mil. shares of dilution last quarter that nobody somehow knew about. As well as a few others and no one wants to talk about important insider trading like that. And quite frankly I don't care who believes it or not. And as far as the dd goes I will not reward a lazy man with what I worked hard for especially the likes of you or other bashers. You'll find out soon enough when its to late. As for the real longs I'm sure they are working hard at finding the info. But you and the shorts will just continue to be lazy and bash away. So take your own advice and know that no one believes you. And a little something I know the bashers hate to here just to add insult to injury. Greenshift is a great company annd I'm gonna be rich.

Ps. How did you shorts like that call the other day when you where forced to cover LMFAO! GLTA LONGS!

nobody12378 said...

I told you how I charted the differential to determine my estimate -- through hard work. But you do not want to believe anything that is not related to dastardly "shorters" and/or other conspiracies. Which leads to me to ask why you claim to have bought so many shares that are at the mercy of the dastardly "shorters" or some other faceless monsters engaged in a dark conspiracy? Makes your claims very hard to accept.

Anonymous said...

Yup, you got nothin. total BS!

Anonymous said...

jimmbody 1143 710

Anonymous said...

Valero thinks GERS is a joke and the patent is weak at best.

 
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