Tuesday, May 7, 2013

Response

Defendants Just Say No

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SkunK

64 comments:

  1. page 8: "CleanTech sued two dozen defendants based on a set of patents that never should have issued."

    defendant pricks don't get it even now. the patents are valid and proven by the USPTO. the USPTO is not a bunch of dumbheads, they are engineers and scientists as well. they know what's a novel idea and what's not. that's their job. gosh, even Einstein was a patent officer.

    defendants still belive they are standing above the law and they are smarter than the guys from the USPTO. poor boys.

    extension of time, or not. no matter. the hammer will fall, sooner or later. it's called judgement day, or pay day ;-)

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  2. If this was such a slam dunk victory with many, perhaps hundreds of millions of dollars of damages waiting around the corner why is the stock selling for four shares per penny? Companies in bankruptcy that are still generating revenue sell for much more than that? Why do you think that every one else in the world is an idiot for not jumping into this bonanza just waiting to happen?

    Your religious/righteous appeal to "judgement day" implies that you have lost the perspective required to address these questions objectively. Further, you must remember the entire proceeding is about process (legal and attorneys fees) being served, not justice to common shareholders. We could be absolutely in the "right" but still dead to the world; like a pedestrian killed in a cross walk. Until you can explain the disconnect between the beliefs held by most here and the PPS, you really cannot defend your position.

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  3. what victory? read again...

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  4. patents are fact, not religious...

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  5. dont have to defend anything.
    but think about:
    - pink paper
    - >30 mil. dept.
    - lawsuit still outstandig
    - not profitable in every quater (yet)
    - deptors can convert and dilute
    - etc.

    of course this is a high risk stock. no one is discussing on this point...

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  6. by the way,
    i dont belive in a "hundreds of millions of dollars of damages waiting around the corner". maybe "one hundred million", best case.

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  7. Did you consider punitive damages in your estimate?

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  8. Go Greenshift. You can't debate the truth.

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  9. maybe there will be a punitive damage too. i think this will depend on the judges estimation of "the bad faith".

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  10. GRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNN

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  11. All you Greenshit lovers have your head up ass. These guys are toast. Sell what you can at whatever price you can get and move on.

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  12. GGGGGGGGRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

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  13. What I think is a "slam dunk", if it is determined that the defendants infringed then there will be punitive damages -- the infringement was purposeful and willful; IF it is infringement. This is where the award can get very pricey. I believe that the discovery has documented this conclusively. Clearly the patents are GERS, clearly the USPTO has taken the counter claims into consideration; but are the defendants guilty of infringement? If they are the award (with punitive damages) will be large enough to threaten the existence of the defendant companies. The next and most important question is when will this money change hands? We will still have appeals and other maneuverings to deal with -- in other words, a long time from now.

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  14. Mr. Greenjeans:

    Will someone sell into this modest increase and dilute us back to where we started, or lower? This is the litmus test of any advancement, and what we have seen before, more times that can be counted.

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  15. GGRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

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  16. HERE COMES 3333333333333333333333333

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  17. NO, it appears that we are at risk of being diluted back to where we started or lower.

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  18. STILL GRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNN

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  19. You are missing the salient point. Continued and real advancement is NOT possible while every little uptick in the PPS is met with dilution selling.

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  20. IS STILL GGGRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

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  21. Please look up the meaning of "vassal sycophant". For you appear to be a GERS' vassal sycophant.

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  22. Nobody posting words taken from his recent "psych" evaluation again!

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  23. ASK is dropping -- get my drift?

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  24. Ask is above previous close -- get mine?

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  25. But it won't be if dilution continues. What other pipe dreams/fantasies do you have? Nothing positive happens here until dilution is stopped, and dilution cannot be ended until money from the current litigation changes hands, and that is a long way off -- probably after another R/S at a minimum; get my drift? That is not a dream or a nightmare, it is the only scenario that fits the history and data that we have.

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  26. its clearly, the judge has to decide if defendants are guilty of infringement or not. but look at the arguments of defendants:

    page 5:"...to the report of Professor Bruce Babcock, an economist who was retained by the Ethanol Producers to opine on when it became generally profitable for a corn ethanol plant to invest in equipment to extract corn oil from distillers’ grains. This is relevant because CleanTech claims that its patents are novel because no one ever thought to extract corn
    oil from distillers’ grains. But we intend to show that the idea was not novel; it was just uneconomical until the middle of the last decade.
    "

    they still belive the court dicides if the patents are valid or not. even now they arguing "the idea was not novel". but that was already approved by the USPTO.

    The court will not rule against the decission of the USPTO that the patents are valid. the court dont has the expertise to do so. they could only rule on: do the defendants infringe the valid patents or not.

    actual it's like an confession of the defendants that they are infringing, but in their mind the patents are not valid.

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  27. Actually it will be a jury that makes that decision. I believe that defendants have requested a jury trial which is their right.

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  28. ok, then the judge will guide the jury on what specific subjects they have to decide. ;-)

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  29. Yes, and the judge can issue a SJ and I believe the judge is involved in the determination of damages after the jury finds for GERS. I am not diminishing the importance of the judge, only indicating that citizens of the realm will be deciding guilt or innocence and that adds another layer of uncertainty.

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  30. GGGRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNN

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  31. And no they do not really believe that the court decides the legitimacy of the patents -- they are setting up the basis for the appeal. Do not underestimate the quality of their legal team or in this case our adversaries -- always dangerous.

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  32. GGGRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

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  33. It sounds like you don't understand sj means no jury.

    Leibert

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  34. Said what?

    Leibert

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  35. GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!

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  36. not what u said n0b0dy got schooled

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  37. You Neanderthal knuckle dragging idiots can't even read -- spare me!

    "Yes, and the judge can issue a SJ and I believe the judge is involved in the determination of damages after the jury finds for GERS. I am not diminishing the importance of the judge, only indicating that citizens of the realm will be deciding guilt or innocence and that adds another layer of uncertainty."

    Does any have the intellectual acumen to see the judge can issue a SJ?..Good now that we have our remedial reading lesson for the day, did any one else notice that the PPS collapsed back to where it started at days end? Dilution, even a little dilution will kill any PPS advancement. You may have heard that before.

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  38. No matter how abusive you get, it won't mask you utter incompetence in investing and gambling. An investor who turns to gambling is the worst kind of peabrain.

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  39. Despite the GREEEEENNN fog of exultation, not a good day yesterday:

    52wk Low/Date
    0.0021 / 5/7/2013

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  40. Wow someone wants in.

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  41. hahaha n0b0dy dont know what SJ is hahaha

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  42. Simple, place a trade at the ASK. If you are unwilling to do this (four shares per penny for a stock "Going to Da moon") one might conclude that you really do not want in or that you are a decimal-penny flipper.

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  43. Yeah, follow this loser's trading advice. Ask him how much his shares are worth now compared to how much he's paid over the years.

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  44. I am not a trader, but I do not masquerade as a devout follower of this company who is afraid to buy four shares for a penny -- about the cost of a sheet of toilet paper. If all you want is to make a few bucks, more power to you. But don't pretend that you are any more than an opportunistic decimal-flipper who may not even know what products this company sells.

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  45. Here speaks our highly unsuccesfull gambler, measuring his succes in percentage loss.

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  46. So unsuccessful that I can throw $160K at this just for the sport, and not notice it. Give it up! I am here for a killing or nothing at all. I get my bones from the risk and I think what galls folks is that I am totally ready to lose every chip and that I know that the payoff, if it ever comes, is years away. Meanwhile I still get my satisfaction of watching the roulette wheel spin with my chips in play as well as the Cadets twist on the verge of emotional breakdown with every daily flutter of Brownian moment in the PPS. No, I am the biggest winner here and always will be. Your invective-laden responses are part of this success.

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  47. I see that you still cannot pull the trigger and slap the ASK. They have drugs for that, did you know?

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  48. 0.0021 0.00 0.00 2,554,188 0.0021 0.0025

    We have seen this before, a large morning dilution to be followed by massive dilution for many days. This is what occurred prior to the last R/S.

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  49. i diluted on n0b0dy wife every monting hahahaha
    large dilushion
    $!$!$!$!$!$!$!

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  50. Nebraska manure kickers couldn't even get in the same room. Try again. Your smut is exceeded only by your aroma.

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  51. Yeah yeah, we get it. You own 3 houses around the country, $150,000 gambled on GERS alone, yet you spend 24/7 following and constantly commenting on a stock worth .0021. Something doesn't add up! Talk about manure and aroma!!

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  52. You haven't advanced beyond simple arithmetic.

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  53. GGGRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

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  54. Anonymous Anonymous said...

    i diluted on n0b0dy wife every monting hahahaha
    large dilushion
    $!$!$!$!$!$!$!





    hilarious

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  55. "You haven't advanced beyond simple arithmetic."

    Ha ha....just because I don't hang on and memorize your every word!

    DumbAss!

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