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Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer, 37
So who will benefit from this relationship? Stay tuned to find out!
Project Manager, 2006-08 Greenshift Ethanol Conf Attendee, Alparetta, GA - About 28 years old
Rachael is a 1994 Graduate of Lakeside, a private Prep school in Seattle, WA. Rachael is a graduate of The University of the South, with a cum laude bachelor's degree in biological psychology and minors in fine arts and philosophy. One time IBM site designer, worked on Macy's e-commerce site and the redesign of the NYSE site. Founder of Kissykat and Candent Corp. As of March 31, 2008, the Company (GERS) owed Candent Corporation $757,853 (the "Candent Note"). The former president of Candent is the wife of the Company's chairman. All of the issued and outstanding capital stock held by Candent is in trust for the benefit of its former president. The note payable to Candent shall bear interest at a rate of 10% per year and matures November 8, 2010. (P. 21 1st Quarter)
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Time Line for Patents
- 17 Aug 2004 Clean Tech filed first COES Provisional Patent Application “050”
- 2004 Inventors Disclosed Technology to ICM. ICM executed Confidentiality Agreement. ICM purchases two authorized COES.p3
- June 2005: Westfalia is still "developing" COES technology while ICM is finally installing the two COES bought from the Inventors the year before
- 2005 The Inventors invited Ethanol manufacturers to symposium to hear about COES – 30% attended.(SkunK's idea on which one)
- 5 May 2005 Clean Tech filed first COES Non-Provisional Patent Application “859”
- 23 Feb 2006 '858 patent publication date.
- 23 Feb 2006 '729 publication date
- 6 May 2009 GERS receives Notice of Allowance for first Patents
- U.S. Patent 7,601,858 issued 13 Oct 2009
- U.S. Patent 7,608,729 issued 27 Oct 2009
- 16 Feb 2010 Notice Of Allowance Issued For Third GreenShift Corn Oil Extraction Patent
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CHAIRMAN of the GERS BOARD
Mr Kevin Kreisler maintains his GERS stock through his holding company: Viridis Capital, LLC. Mr. Kreisler is a graduate of Rutgers University College of Engineering (B.S., Civil and Environmental Engineering, 1994), Rutgers University Graduate School of Management (M.B.A., 1995), and Rutgers University School of Law (J.D., 1997). Served as the Company’s vice president from 1998 to 2000, president from 2000 to 2002, chief executive officer from 2002 to 2005 and has served as the Company’s chairman from 2005 to the present. Admitted to practice law in New Jersey and the United States District Court for the District of New Jersey. Kevin Kreisler is the sole owner of Viridis Capital LLC; GreenSpace Capital, LLC; Incandent Capital, L.L.C. Mr. Kevin Kreisler is about 37 years old.
"Roots" of Greenshift
- Greenshift Corp - until present
- GS Clean Tech Corp - until 2-2008 - 1-50 Reverse Split 12Dec2007
- VERIDIUM CORP until 7-2006
- KBF Pollution Management Inc from 3-1996 until 10-2003 - 1-20 Reverse Split 21Oct03
- KBF Pollution Control Inc 1984-1996
- Kreisler Bags - then - Kreisler Bags and Filtration 1979-1984 (hence "KBF" above)
Technicians and Magicians Behind the Curtain
David Fred Cantrell - Graduate of the University of Georgia where he received a Masters Degree in Poultry Science and Statistics. Co-inventor of COE technology with Dave Winsness. Started: Cantrell Winsness Technologies LLC. Next: CEO of Mean Green Biodiesel. Works out of One Penn Plaza, NY?
Dan Lester - Project Manager, GS CleanTech. Past: Warnecke Design Engineer 2004-2007; Imagetech Inc. Engineer 2001-2004. Education: Devry University EET, Electronics Engineering, 1998 — 2001
Patrick Bush - GreenShift’s Vice President of Biodiesel Technology
Dan Page - Attended 2008 Ethanol Conference for Greenshift Corp from Alpharetta, GA.
Dan Saltzman - Controller Greenshift Corporation
Past: 2001 — 2004 Assistant Controller, New York Mortgage;
1989 — 2000 Assistant Vice President Financial Reporting, Scudder; 1984 — 1997 Bucknell University
Jacqueline Flynn - Controller of GreenShift Corporation since 2006. She is the Chief Financial Officer (CFO) and Chief Accounting Officer for ESYM/ADRN. She is also the CFO for CICS. She has twenty years experience in financial accounting for both public and private companies.
Mary J. Carroll - Worked in GreenShift Administration since at least December of 2003. Presently GreenShift Vice President of Administration.
John W. Davis - John "Whit" Davis, has a B.S. in Civil Engineering from the U.S. Coast Guard Academy and an M.B.A from Boston University. GS CleanTech's new Vice President of Operations (as of PR 22 Jan '07), has a broad base of diversified management, engineering, operational and business development experience. Mr. Davis led the deployment of GS CleanTech's existing Corn Oil Extraction System installations at Little Sioux Corn Processors and Glacial Lakes Energy. Most recently in his career, Mr. Davis was the technical director for special projects at Vortex Dehydration Technology, where he led product design, development and implementation for many applications of the technologies underlying GS CleanTech's Tornado Generator[TM]. Mr. Davis holds the rank of Lt. Commander as a reservist with the U.S. Coast Guard. (One of four original COES Inventors.)
Dan Lester - Project Manager, GS CleanTech. Past: Warnecke Design Engineer 2004-2007; Imagetech Inc. Engineer 2001-2004. Education: Devry University EET, Electronics Engineering, 1998 — 2001
Patrick Bush - GreenShift’s Vice President of Biodiesel Technology
Dan Page - Attended 2008 Ethanol Conference for Greenshift Corp from Alpharetta, GA.
Dan Saltzman - Controller Greenshift Corporation
Past: 2001 — 2004 Assistant Controller, New York Mortgage;
1989 — 2000 Assistant Vice President Financial Reporting, Scudder; 1984 — 1997 Bucknell University
Jacqueline Flynn - Controller of GreenShift Corporation since 2006. She is the Chief Financial Officer (CFO) and Chief Accounting Officer for ESYM/ADRN. She is also the CFO for CICS. She has twenty years experience in financial accounting for both public and private companies.
Mary J. Carroll - Worked in GreenShift Administration since at least December of 2003. Presently GreenShift Vice President of Administration.
John W. Davis - John "Whit" Davis, has a B.S. in Civil Engineering from the U.S. Coast Guard Academy and an M.B.A from Boston University. GS CleanTech's new Vice President of Operations (as of PR 22 Jan '07), has a broad base of diversified management, engineering, operational and business development experience. Mr. Davis led the deployment of GS CleanTech's existing Corn Oil Extraction System installations at Little Sioux Corn Processors and Glacial Lakes Energy. Most recently in his career, Mr. Davis was the technical director for special projects at Vortex Dehydration Technology, where he led product design, development and implementation for many applications of the technologies underlying GS CleanTech's Tornado Generator[TM]. Mr. Davis holds the rank of Lt. Commander as a reservist with the U.S. Coast Guard. (One of four original COES Inventors.)
Christopher Kennedy
Project Manager, 2006-08 Greenshift Ethanol Conf Attendee, Alparetta, GA - About 28 years old
Public History of the Keisler Family
The lovely Mrs. Rachael Kreisler
Rachael is a 1994 Graduate of Lakeside, a private Prep school in Seattle, WA. Rachael is a graduate of The University of the South, with a cum laude bachelor's degree in biological psychology and minors in fine arts and philosophy. One time IBM site designer, worked on Macy's e-commerce site and the redesign of the NYSE site. Founder of Kissykat and Candent Corp. As of March 31, 2008, the Company (GERS) owed Candent Corporation $757,853 (the "Candent Note"). The former president of Candent is the wife of the Company's chairman. All of the issued and outstanding capital stock held by Candent is in trust for the benefit of its former president. The note payable to Candent shall bear interest at a rate of 10% per year and matures November 8, 2010. (P. 21 1st Quarter)
Kreisler Family Involved in GERS
Lawrence M. Kreisler - Lawrence is the sole owner of Serenity Capital, LLC. Built Kreisler Bags, then Kreisler Bags and Filters, then KBF Pollution Control Inc., then KBF Pollution Management Inc. After 1-20 R/S Sept2003 company was taken over by Veridium Corp in Oct2003, controlled by son Kevin. Resigned, effective December 31, 2003, as an officer and director of Veridium Corporation. Continued to work at Veridium's Paterson, New Jersey based recycling facility, that was designed on recycling technologies he invented. His employment was terminated in July 2004 due to irreconcilable philosophical differences in how to best operate and grow that facility. Bronze Parachute included: 100 percent of his salary of $150,000 through December 31, 2004 and 50 percent of his salary through December 31, 2006. Medical benefits until the age of 65. Lawrence is about 61 years old.
Scott Kreisler - Scott is the sole owner of Cyrus Capital, LLC. Brother of Kevin Kreisler, listed as a Beneficial Owner of Veridium Corporation on 4/2/2002 SEC filings. The 2005 annual report also says: "During 2005, Scott Kreisler, brother of Kevin Kreisler, received salaries of $72,700. Scott Kreisler no longer works for the Company." In February 2006, Cyrus Capital, LLC, purchased from GCS Investments $500,000 in convertible debt issuedby GS Clean Tech. During the period ended March 31, 2006, Cyrus effected conversions totaling $280,000, corresponding to 14,000,000 shares of the Company's common stock. During the second quarter 2006 Cyrus effected additional conversions totaling $120,000 into a total of 6,000,000 shares of the Company's common stock.
Kathi A. Kreisler From a 3/30/2001 filing: Kathi Kreisler is a Co-founder of VERIDIUM CORPORATION and served as its President from 1984 through December 1994. She has been a director since March 1984. In January 1995, Ms. Kreisler became vice president, secretary and treasurer of Veridium Corporation. From 1979 to 1984, Ms. Kreisler was a principal in Kreisler Bags and Filtration, Inc., which name was subsequently changed to KBF Pollution Management, Inc. Ms. Kreisler is the wife of Lawrence Kreisler and is the mother of Kevin and Scott Kreisler. During 2005, Kathi Kreisler received salaries of $33,750. During December of 2005, Kathi Kreisler received 3,806,811 shares of the Company's common stock as a settlement of all severance liabilities.
MIF During the first quarter 2008, Minority Interest Fund (II), LLC ("MIF") acquired the Kerns $1,000,000 Debenture. In February 2008, MIF subsequently fully converted this debenture at the rate of $0.16 per share into 6,875,000 shares of Company common stock. The managing member of MIF is a relative of Kevin Kreisler. (p. 23 1st Qtr Rpt)
Scott Kreisler - Scott is the sole owner of Cyrus Capital, LLC. Brother of Kevin Kreisler, listed as a Beneficial Owner of Veridium Corporation on 4/2/2002 SEC filings. The 2005 annual report also says: "During 2005, Scott Kreisler, brother of Kevin Kreisler, received salaries of $72,700. Scott Kreisler no longer works for the Company." In February 2006, Cyrus Capital, LLC, purchased from GCS Investments $500,000 in convertible debt issuedby GS Clean Tech. During the period ended March 31, 2006, Cyrus effected conversions totaling $280,000, corresponding to 14,000,000 shares of the Company's common stock. During the second quarter 2006 Cyrus effected additional conversions totaling $120,000 into a total of 6,000,000 shares of the Company's common stock.
Kathi A. Kreisler From a 3/30/2001 filing: Kathi Kreisler is a Co-founder of VERIDIUM CORPORATION and served as its President from 1984 through December 1994. She has been a director since March 1984. In January 1995, Ms. Kreisler became vice president, secretary and treasurer of Veridium Corporation. From 1979 to 1984, Ms. Kreisler was a principal in Kreisler Bags and Filtration, Inc., which name was subsequently changed to KBF Pollution Management, Inc. Ms. Kreisler is the wife of Lawrence Kreisler and is the mother of Kevin and Scott Kreisler. During 2005, Kathi Kreisler received salaries of $33,750. During December of 2005, Kathi Kreisler received 3,806,811 shares of the Company's common stock as a settlement of all severance liabilities.
MIF During the first quarter 2008, Minority Interest Fund (II), LLC ("MIF") acquired the Kerns $1,000,000 Debenture. In February 2008, MIF subsequently fully converted this debenture at the rate of $0.16 per share into 6,875,000 shares of Company common stock. The managing member of MIF is a relative of Kevin Kreisler. (p. 23 1st Qtr Rpt)
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Capitalism
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Socialism
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Communism
"Where the link to producing goods and services and receiving goods and services is severed. Outdated, shabby or no production follows. Leads in time to a robust Free Enterprise system - starting with a black market."
"This system is not bad, it is just how things have worked in every functional society since time began. Someone provides a good or service in exchange for receiving a good or service. Money just facilitates making change and keeping score."
Socialism
"A system where more goods and services are provided to those who provide less goods and services." Leads to less goods and services.
Communism
"Where the link to producing goods and services and receiving goods and services is severed. Outdated, shabby or no production follows. Leads in time to a robust Free Enterprise system - starting with a black market."
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Disclaimer for those who need additional clarification. . .
My beliefs and the financial strategies discussed on this site are not to be used without proper financial analysis of your personal situation. Better yet, you do not have my permission to use them at all. I strongly suggest you seek help of a financial advisor or, even better, a Certified Financial Planner in order to assist you in any financial planning. I am not selling or advising you to buy any financial products. I am not selling or advising you to buy this stock or any other stock! I am just blogging about one of my favourite subjects! This is a hobby for me and should only be entertainment for you. You may analyse my opinions and determine if they suit you or not. I hope that your personal finance path to your goals will be covered with success and profit. Enjoy your reading.
Additional Disclaimer for the real knukleheads . . . .
Look, if your still reading this disclaimer and haven't figured out my name is SkunK and I don't know nothin' then you really need help. If you still want to blindly go out and do whatever some dude on the internet does then I can't help you. If you are not emotionally secure enough to suffer another's opinion - then turn the dang channel. Quickly seek a mental health professional! I am not one of them either!
Still do not understand? This is for the Lawyers (lol)
DISCLAIMER: The author is not a registered stockbroker nor a registered advisor and does not give investment advice. His comments are an expression of opinion only and should not be construed in any manner whatsoever as recommendations to buy or sell a stock, option, future, bond, commodity, index or any other financial instrument at any time. While he believes his statements to be true, they always depend on the reliability of his sources. The author recommends that you consult with a qualified investment advisor, one licensed by appropriate regulatory agencies in your legal jurisdiction, before making any investment decisions, and that you confirm the facts on your own before making important investment commitments.
Note: I am a shareholder - I do not work for, nor do I receive any direct or indirect payment from GERS or anyone associated with them. (But it would be Kapitalist Kool if I did) I will not intentionally mislead - but I can be wrong (ask Mrs. SkunK for specific frequencies) - so do your own due diligence - and take responsibility for your own financial decisions – (and your own life in general) good or bad. I do not give financial advice - I let you look at my dd as I try to make sense of it all and make MY decisions. Make your own! I have been rightfully accused of being a rather cheery, positive individual who laughs at every opportunity. These tendencies may cause me to overlook deficiencies in this stock that are painfully obvious to others. Celebrate today - and some good garage logic luck to ya.
SkunK
(Blogger formerly know as Skunk)
Disclaimer for those who need additional clarification. . .
My beliefs and the financial strategies discussed on this site are not to be used without proper financial analysis of your personal situation. Better yet, you do not have my permission to use them at all. I strongly suggest you seek help of a financial advisor or, even better, a Certified Financial Planner in order to assist you in any financial planning. I am not selling or advising you to buy any financial products. I am not selling or advising you to buy this stock or any other stock! I am just blogging about one of my favourite subjects! This is a hobby for me and should only be entertainment for you. You may analyse my opinions and determine if they suit you or not. I hope that your personal finance path to your goals will be covered with success and profit. Enjoy your reading.
Additional Disclaimer for the real knukleheads . . . .
Look, if your still reading this disclaimer and haven't figured out my name is SkunK and I don't know nothin' then you really need help. If you still want to blindly go out and do whatever some dude on the internet does then I can't help you. If you are not emotionally secure enough to suffer another's opinion - then turn the dang channel. Quickly seek a mental health professional! I am not one of them either!
Still do not understand? This is for the Lawyers (lol)
DISCLAIMER: The author is not a registered stockbroker nor a registered advisor and does not give investment advice. His comments are an expression of opinion only and should not be construed in any manner whatsoever as recommendations to buy or sell a stock, option, future, bond, commodity, index or any other financial instrument at any time. While he believes his statements to be true, they always depend on the reliability of his sources. The author recommends that you consult with a qualified investment advisor, one licensed by appropriate regulatory agencies in your legal jurisdiction, before making any investment decisions, and that you confirm the facts on your own before making important investment commitments.
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-- Gandhi
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SkunK's Public Library; Magazine Section
- June 2008 Bio-Diesel Mag - New Bio-Diesel method that can use corn oil
- Marion (3rd COE) site and COE/Biodiesel
- Dr. Bayless explains Algae process he sold to Greenshift
- Our Algae slime is 94% starch and 6% oil
- and the super "algae" comes from Yellowstone
- Biodiesel Nov 2006 - The Matchmaker
- Forbes Dan Fisher Article
- Distillers Grain Quarterly - 2007 1st Quarter - "COE Opens New Markets"
93 comments:
For what possible reasons would gers want to seal their opposition yo defendents motion for summary judgement of non -infringement? Why would they hide it from public domain? Is it too simplistic to think it could be a settlement? Jeff
Don't think it's a settlement
You are missing the point! This information, which was offered on the web site through Q3 of last year, should be updated for at least two reasons: 1) to provide prospective investors easy access to this important information that provides data on the growth of GERS and, 2)the lack of this information and the out-of-date appearance that this engenders may speak volumes to some about the quality of the company and/or its relationship with investors.
Nobody, to your point, i agree with you. If this were a larger company, the lack of updates would be inexcusable. It does not foster confidence by prospective investors. I do not personally think that commons are very high on their priority list right now, and i recognize that. At the same time, this lack of self -promotion is keeping the pps down and allowing me to load up. After all, the company is in a fight for it's survival, i can look past this. I believe the 10q's will speak for themselves in time. As for now, this stock is a wellkept secret from general public, i for one am leveragingthe fact and will continue to buy shares on sale....appreciate your input for perspective..respectfully, Jeff
I agree, but I would caution that I think the rewards are a little more distant. The next several filings will be important as the litigation will continue to percolate into the foreseeable future when all appeals and motions have finally been resolved. I do not think that there will be a settlement where money (awards and damages are paid, acknowledgement of primacy of GERS' technology occurs) changes hands. Thus the SEC filings are so important. But progress has not been monotonic and for each step forward we have seen a step backward in the quarterlies. We must keep forward progress going to stimulate the PPS, otherwise, the litigation success, ignition that many believe is ultimately inevitable, is far on the horizon.
You keep harping on the fact that short term prosperity is not imminent. Not everyone here is banking on that. Some of us understand this may take time. You repeat yourself all the time. Not all of us are in our golden years.
Nycdream
The pto agrees the patents are GOOD and Icms letter was BS. Icm has NOTHING every thing Icm said is PROVED WRONG !! Judge is gonna slap them like a red headed step child with injunctions + sj.
what are you miss cleo? get your crystal ball out you know nothing what this will do if you can predict the future you would be bashing a penny stock your whole life? loser
Nobody check the newest patent out. The defenses hopes an dreams of noninfringement went up in smoke.
I think it would be instructive if the Skunk put out a poll about how long the litigation to protect their intellectual property will take. This could be done in a couple of parts: a) current district court adjudication, b) completion of all appeals and motions in this litigation and payment of award and punitive damages, c)the complete end of all such litigation e.g. Poet & Cargill. The range of duration for a) could be several months to several years, for b) several years to more than five years, and for c) five years to more than a decade. The responses to this survey would, in my judgement, indicate for this sample how mistaken and naive most are on the timing here.
There is no new patent, there is a new patent application. And this has nothing to do with ICM's strategy of delaying this litigation beyond GERS' ability to survive. Have you noticed how much longer it is taking this litigation than the Apple/ Samsung litigation? Reason -- Samsung knew that Apple would not fail to survive if they lost; the delaying tactic would be fruitless.
Why would they want to delay. Gers is not going out of business plus we will win and damages are building son what's there point
Jeff,
To my point, that there are unrealistic expectations here in terms of timing. Many folks are waiting for September 15th as some sort of "miracle day" to propel the PPS to move north. This is the day that GERS' motion for SJ is due. When that day passes and nothing happens I think that there will be an excellent buying opportunity as some of the folks frustrated with their unrequited expectations will jettison their stock. I am counting on this mindset and behavior to add to my LONG position.
Anony 9:16,
I am afraid that you haven't been paying attention. I know based on direct conversation with several of the principals that they believe that DVG is unrealistic . DVG believes that he is right and that GERS will become insolvent to the point where the common shareholders can no longer keep GERS' head above the YAGI waterline. If you need more insight, you will need to do a lot of reading on your own.
^ haha you dont know shit, you didnt talk to anyone, you are nothing nobody
The idiots that populate this comment board says a great deal about the intelligence of some of the people that have been attracted to GERS. The sad commentary is that others reading these unintelligent and inarticulate posts may ascribe this low quality human response to the quality of GERS itself. After all, don't birds of a feather flock together?
wellyabutt, unless a mistake is made by the court, summary judgment (for GERS) means we win.
ICM will then have to try to re-explain why it should not liable for (very clearly) pirating another company's technology. right?
Yes, to the district court, then to Appellate Court in DC which has a history of looking at claims construction differently than the district courts. Frequently, (30+ %) the DC court sides with the appellant based on a technical legal issue that has nothing, I repeat, nothing to do with justice. Then there is still the opportunity to motion the Supreme Court to over turn the Appellate Court.
Why are you guys feeding this self-inflated egotistical maniac? He lives for what is probably the only real attention he gets on these boards. You will never convince him that someone else may have a valid, true opinion.
As for the Yahoo munchkins, go home to the cesspool you crawled out of.
We have an idiot flooding message boards with "informative posts, really important questions, intellectual message board posts, I told you so posts" who invested 7 years ago in GERS that is telling others they are idiots. Man you can't make this up.
6 years ago I already thought you were stark raving nuts but it keeps getting worse with you.
Who the heck needs to be convinced? The only thing that is needed is discourse based upon fact and not supposition. We can agree to disagree on the meaning of those facts. It is unacceptable to treat hopes and wishes as facts and expect to be able have a discourse. Your premise that the outcome of an intellectual engagement must end in one side convincing the other is a perfidious form of nihilism.
youre educated ... postulate one potential defect in the claim construction that would favor icm.
Nobody,
How much have you lost since you invested in this over 6 years ago? Your anger and frustration still shows how stupid you were and now much more stupid you gotten since then.
Sorry for your mishaps but don't share your misery with others on the board.
Please leave as your opinions are not valued.
Thanks.
Oh goody, now that you were proved WRONG on the dilution kick, we get to listen to your "Blackout" crap for the next few months, AGAIN.
Do you realize you've been advocating "long term profitability" for so long that it has actually now become long term?
For those of you who don't know the difference between "your" and "you're", why not just type "ur". That way you'll sound "text savvy" and the reader will still get the meaning (even if they don't know the difference either),
Perfidious......Ha ha ha! My wife bought some of that last week. It's that perfume with the hidious smell, right?
1) Take a gander at the OS fully, diluted versus the OS basic, before you step into any more fecal waste of self aggrandizement. We will not know who/what is right until we determine what has/will happen to all those other millions of shares.
2) I have known from the inception about the odds of my gamble here. Fully accepting and understanding those odds is something you should try. If you did then the concepts of anger and frustration which are clearly lodged in your limbic system would dissipate.
3) I am not an attorney. My information on the percentage of appeals overturned is based solely on what the Appellate Court considers faulty claims constructions comes from professionals in this field, that work closely with this court. I have previously stated that this is an average over several years and a point estimate does not directly apply to the instant case. GERS will either prevail or it will not -- the outcome is binary. But the 30+ % figure is a measure of risk of failure for GERS at this level and may be what DVG is hanging his company's future on.
Read that all before....
Do you keep all these comments in a word processing program so you can just copy and paste over, and over, and over, and over.......?
3) seems superficial. statistics do not descend into individual case particulars, i.e., facts. i didnt know you gambled on "odds." thought you were a fact monger --- my mistake. nonetheless glad you havent been able to isolate one (1) single defect.
I am not knowledgeable in this field. My commentary on the quality of the claims construction would have no value as does your attempt to obtain my certification.
Nobody,
You still have not answer the question on how much you have lost since you invested in this stock over 6 years ago.
No comment? Wow, that bad. I understand your bashing and misery. Just so you know, you have been figured out.
Sorry!
gambling and rebuking objective discourse. dam! had me fooled with that vocabulary. you should be on "talk" radio. or maybe run for office.
I haven't lost a dime, and will not.
It's only been 3 weeks since GERS last quarterly report, other than that, they're up to date with the Q1 from May.
Try going to the correct website, or at least how to navigate one and quit spreading false information!
I normally wouldn't defend Nobody, but he is right about not losing a dime. I haven't either. You haven't lost or gained a dime unless you sell at a loss or at a gain. Average down or wait it out.
P.S.
Nobody, I still think you are condescending.
price on 120 min. chart is still tracing out within the widening rectangular box pattern....
does it break above or below?
wish i canoe
glta
P.S.
Nobody, I still think you are condescending.
Nobody is NOT condescending.
He just thinks he is the smartest person in the room. Or should I say the entire basement at his mother's house?
hey nobody i told u not to go to sanduskys house when you were younger
smh _^_ :(
Anony 11:45,
Or should I say misinformation spreader. Go to the main link "Presentation & Reports". If you can read you will see that there are several links to last year's filings, and just as I previously stated no links at all to any of this years's filings. Condescending crap! Stating facts and getting it right, that is what I am doing. Some one like yourself that is labeling valid statements as falsehoods must be working for the "team".
Jeff,
Looks like we are right on. After the 15th we should be able to get some more bargain basement shares; trend is already emerging today.
gambling, rebuking objectivity, and have your head buried in the sand. look out for cat turds down there!
price on daily is today again below the 9ema....torture continues...
this is BAD price action....strong stocks stay above 9ema for weeks on end....
i am angry....thet is huge dilution today...add the hourly volume bars...you can do the arithmetic yourself..glta
youre a waste of time, air and space.
that was directed to nobuddy
ok well thnaks,
i am long....but i am also very angry...i am telling you all that the dilution is occuring each and evert day....just add the hourly volumes, they are double the listed daily volume...that is the number of shares of net dilution...it was huge today about quater million shares...
and since price is eroding we can assume that buyers are not accumulating with out any feeling of urgency...glta
the only chart positive is on the 120 minute chart....price is still carving out higher lows...that is all the good news i see..
this stock is NOT showing any technical strenght....it must show something very soon or lowere lows are dead ahead...sorry, that is what price IS doing...of course the daily dilution is NOT helping matters at all!!!
glta
Nobody,
If you go to "Investor Resources" on the GERS webpage and then click on XBRL Reports you will find the Q1 report from May 2012. If you can't read it in that format, there is a link directly below it to read it at the EDGAR site.
WRONG about the Q2 dilution and WRONG about only last years filings on the website!
No wonder your little friends from yahoo like you so much. You're just like them!
When you ride a bike, you have to......
somone made a great point on i-hub
samsung/apple infringement settled rapidly due to apples infinite staying power...
but gers is being bled by the lenghty battle which is ICM goal...very very ugly for justice
bottom line...price is eroding slowly since recent pop....this is just singularily NOT good...
whether price is down due to sellers or dilution is irrelevent...
price going down means and always means in an auction market that accumulation is not keeping up with distribution...that is it....price would go up if demand exceeded the distribution....distribution can be hoders selling or the gers company selling...does not matter,,,glta ...i am a pissed off long
Nobody,
Yes you do state facts, over and over and over, but you are also condescending over and over and over.
Condescending: showing or characterized by a patronizing or superior attitude toward others.
Yep, that pretty much sounds like you.
Techgues you are babbling, please go and read some good books about charting and markets.
This MB would be to small to do so myself.
But for example that acc. distrb. thing you speak of is untrue. It could take 1 sold share without bid that could disguise millions of bought shares.
Or in the case of a big buyer, you regularly and strategically sell also. No need to drive your own buying price up to much ain't so?
anony 2;41
hope you are correct...i learned that when accumulation exceeds distribution price goes up in an auction bid/ask market...it is not a mystery as some claim...certainly not magic...
all i am saying is price is going down lately...by definition supply exceeds demand...unless you think gers is special and magical...
on 30 minute chart lots of green candles....this may be accumulation....no idea
Looking good for picking up some cheap shares after September 15. Superior attitude, only possible when the attitude of those professing wishes and hopes as facts becomes measurable, which it is not.
Nobody, can come across as pessimistic, however, we could learn something from his experience. I have been in this stock for about 2.5 years. What i have learned is not to expect anything too soon from the company. I have a very solid core holding.. however i have changed my purchasing strategy, for all who would like to know. Now, i simply purchase $1,000 before end of each quarter to average down, and hope it eventually goes somewhere over the next few years. Of course, i would not be disappointed if something happened sooner, rather than later....Jeff
Nobody,
You mean like you wishing and hoping the website contained only SEC filings through Q3 of last year? Sorry Pal, wrong again!
A flower is made up of many of these, one would be a .....
Techguess
again I have to disagree with that by definition thing. Painting indicators is not strange to us the public and professional. Because that's what it is just a dot in a x & y axle.
Again an example stocktiger.com sends out break out alerts that really can be traded profitable. The same guy sends out pre-break out alerts to all those with enough charting knowledge, also profitable. And so forth. There are so many algorithms at work that any sustainable method with fantastic results would be traded to death.
Anony 2;41
crumb sucker
It is being sealed because of gross misconduct detials on the part of several at GS.. That is fact.
Nonsense. Those are GS responses; they would never plead gross misconduct of their employees as a defense. Such a defense is a patent admission of failure and would result in loss of this litigation. Try something believable, there is fertile ground there.
how is cleantech entitled to the fees and costs that greenshift common shareholders have paid for, and, where are the fees and costs that cleantech collected from a bogus defense motion accounted for in the SEC filing ???????
Nobody,
You mean like you wishing and hoping the website contained only SEC filings through Q3 of last year? Wishing and hoping the dilution number was wrong. Wishing and hoping weren't profitable. Wishing and hoping cargil was infringing. Wishing and hoping they didn't get the new patent 197?
You know what they say about fools that can't admit they're wrong?
no! wondering instead what your little faggot butt-buddy did with the godam MONEY .
GS Cleantech will win this case. Like a lot of cases, there has and will be up's and down's. I've looked at this case and the filings. They will win for sure. I am a patent attorney with 18 years experience. I am investing here. Patrick
Patrick,
Will you please weigh in on all the delaying tactics available for the defendant and the Appellate Court in DC penchant for over ruling the district court's claim construction. Please also provide a range of times for the district court adjudication, finding of award and penalties and then the timetable for the Appellate Court to run its process. Thank you.
nobody stfu, stop posting nobody likes u lol
What does "like" have to do with earning money? I'd fire my mother, my wife, and all my children if they were not measuring up to established standards. Your response is absolutely infantile -- "take your ball and bat and go home, nobody likes you". With that level of intelligence exhibited by owners of GERS' stock it is no wonder that legitimate investors stay clear; you are painting our company with your own idiocy.
well,
is sumpin upp...you fundemental guys know why limbo land has emerged?
glta longs
man i want a big gap up on news i can taste it
"I'd fire my mother, my wife, and all my children if they were not measuring up to established standards."
Just a little look into the mind of who is posting constant, argumentative, condescending comments. Nobody, seek help, it may already be too late!
Probably his wife left him already for not meeting her standards, who wants a guy glued for years on message boards, saying I was right really, really please believe me otherwise you are an idiot.
i confidently with no conflict announce that no dilution has occured today!...is dilution over???..who really knows...for sure no buyers either...sumpin up honey?
0 Sales for the day and he states with confidence there is no dilution today....Really?!!
What a tool!!
anony 10;35...humor ass hole...you contribute nutin honey
zero trades...zero dilution....come on slash or skunk....give us the fundemental news....your killin me!
is it good ..is it real good news...does it smell like victory???
ICM FOLDS UNDER PRESSURE! GERS TURNS NEW FOUND OWNERSHIP OF ICM OVER TO YA GLOBAL IN RETURN FOR DEBT FORGIVENESS, PAID IN FULL!
Just thinking outloud.....
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dont be talkin about somebodys mother, fuker.
nbodys moma is da bestest in the westest
$500 for that punks name and address
50 cent for nbdys mom
25 shares for nobodys mama bumma
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