The recent PR stated that "Critically, the '197 Application was allowed after the USPTO reviewed all of the relevant materials submitted by the defendants in GreenShift's current infringement litigation."
So I took a look at what is on file at the Patent Office Portal. I saw all the normal filings. Items five, six and seven in the link below show the emails and correspondence that the defense seems to be clinging to at this point. Clearly these things were reviewed by the Patent Office. Clearly the Patent office has since approved the patent by issuing a NOA. This does not guarantee that a court or jury will agree in the long haul, however if does raise the bar for the defendants. The actions of the Patent Office are basically considered correct until proven otherwise.
See Here
If you have any question if this is a list of items considered - notice the stamped type item on the bottom of the page. "All references considered . . . " followed with the examiner's initials.
SkunK
Wednesday, September 12, 2012
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1 – 200 of 367 Newer› Newest»This has not been a real issue for months: GERS has documented, in several ways, the primacy of its technology and that the defendant's arguments about not infringing are vacuous. There is always the risk that judges and juries see things differently but GERS has done a great job of minimizing this risk.
The real issue is how to translate this into an end game that GERS can survive long enough to execute. As the skirmish victories for GERS continue to mount, are the bad guys quietly executing their game plan? One which is not dependent on legalities, one often used by larger companies that covet smaller companies' technology -- delay them out of existence.
People you do recall that many millions of dollars are due a major lender by year's end; money they will not have unless another form of financing is found in a few months. Can the cloud of the litigation and its delays contribute to the reasons that new financing has not yet been found? It is getting late, and perhaps, just perhaps the defendants win by losing and GERS loses by winning.
extremely well written nobody....i am being real....excellent and speaks truth...thankyou...
another angle, if for aurgument dilution has ended as the screamers insist...is today a hesitation day and going forward investors must poney up...
just a thought..
glta long
thankyou techbody
bid rising 2.2 !
Listening to nobody I s a big mistake he is wrong A LOT. Just warning you
what ever,
this stock issue is no slam dunk...it is called high E risk...eg screaming risk....price does NOT yet say that the onerous obstacles GERS is facing have resolved...in FACT price says that gers will go bankrupt ...I personally do not believe so, but that is the markets view....
glta longs,,,we really really nedd it...
What will be the markets view when we win this case and millions of dollars in damages. Doe you have a chart up your ass that will help you with that scenario.
ohw...sounds like you got a chart a pointer and a RSI up your ars...good luck to you
guess i'm techbody234
People do you realize that YAGI would be eager to refinance at the same terms.
GERS wishes otherwise, don't be fooled by free advice from a "realistic" poster
ok i am open...i am not following ...yagi is eager for what?..please just expand a bit...they want gers to succeed?
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Just read the last 10 yearly filings and Skunk from the beginning.
Should be easy if you avoid the comment section for one month.
Then you would also not compliment a nobody for his purposely misleading statement.
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GOOD BYE
yagi wants loan payments not out in the street
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Anony 2:54 -- Your suppositions are inane. Assuming that YAGI wants loan repayments when they could own the patents and all their obvious value simply by calling the loan is a wise business move on their part. They have let GERS fight all the battles to secure this intellectual property, with our money I might add, and then they can waltz in and take over, the about to be court certified, extremely valuable patents. I am not saying that this is going happen but to assume that what is in the best interest of GERS and its common shareholders is going to happen is wishful thinking. It is actually outlandish considering the leverage that YAGI has and the business potential the patents represents. Your absolute denial that such an outcome is even possible is clearly delusional. I am not sure that GERS could do anything to stop this and I believe that in this scenario the common shareholders would end up with zero. Please stop misleading the newbies that all is wine and roses here. This is one of the many reasons that the PE ratio is 0.125, why our PPS is 2 cents not $2+ dollars. Can now see why alternative financing before the end of the year is in our interest?
dipchit donkey boy hee haw^
Greeeen close all buy no sellers
anony355 there was 1 sale for $6
That's all anybody would sell icm.
well i have mentioned that before....if gers/future is so great why cannnot they simply get legit finaning and pay off yagi...
any reason?
skunk?
slash?
Legal fees run both ways, the real ? with the recent patent decision and ending loan payment due by Gers is whether a settlement may occur. There are a lot of comments about hoe high risk GERS is, this is absolutely true and the share price reflects it, as unfortunately does the volume. My point here is a 10 to 20 bagger look like this and can be a full blown win or loss, if that is a playing field you can afford...it doesn't look like a bad play and the recent patent decision doesn't hurt.
PH
one question...why cannot gers replace the yagi deal with legit financing?
techguess, they are working on it. Each quarter that shows improved revenues, and each issued patent is getting the company closer to "legit financing." I predicted/guessed some time ago that they would achieve financing in Q3. Q3 ends in a couple of weeks. Hopefully we will learn about a financing deal by mid November, when the next Q is filed. GLTA
Good to see you back Jim
Nycdream
Nobody, I don't believe YAGI can waltz in and own the patents. If I'm not mistaken, GS doesn't own them to be taken from. Winsness/Cantrell and maybe the other inventors own the patents. GS licenses the patents form them. Just sayin'.
6000000 on the bid 2.44 !
wow huge 200000 buy !
300000 buy 2.5 !
Longs lock your shares. put in a sell for a high price Shorts can't borrow locked shares
TraderX2000
This is crazy what's happening?
bid up 315000 2.45 !
jimmowrey,
ok many thanks for that straight forward response to the financing dilema....that is the dream then...pulling off replacement financing...i will hope and pray for this...thank you very much Jim..glta long
ask jumps 2.6 !
ask jumps 2.6 !
GO GERS
Something does not add up. More than 1% of what we think the OS count is has been traded, all buys. Yet, the PPS has barely moved, less than a half of a percent. That suggests that there a more shares available than we think. Are the millions of diluted shares coming onto the market?
i see very well controlled price movement in a heavy accumulation day...the new shares are bieng scooped up...price is up because accumulation is outpacing dilution...net accumulation is good...four phases of stock movement....accumulation
mark-up
distribution
markdown
we definitely are in the accumulation phase with low volume and low price...glta long
There's a heavy hitter c0vering his tracks or trying to cover.
Anony 9:24 -- In years past there was "documentation" that the patents were the collateral for the loan. I hope that you are right and that DW and others did not put them in jeopardy to keep the company alive. I know that those were very desperate times for them then.
High volume Whos buying this?
dunno but i like
How long did Icm cling to the letter? And it was nothing? All for nothing jj you puke face woodworker.
nobody whats your problem
My problem is I have a small n thin penis size. Its 3 inches long.How can it grow bigger?
I want to increase my penis size. My frends say that 3 inches long penis is too short for intercorse and i cannot be able to satisfy my girlfrnd with such a short penis. I am totally nervous and afraid. Please please give me suggesion to increase my penis size.
Hi. Is there some proof biof is linked to this? I see lot a talk where's the proof?
Where's the "talk" you speak of?
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UBS I got 300,000 for sale @ .06 if it helps you out.
Chat rooms. It's true or no?
Go to BIOF last 10K. It is pdf form, search on Greenshift". You will find the following: "During 2011, we began installing corn oil extraction systems at each of our plants so that we could begin producing corn oil as an additional co-product. These systems were installed using certain patented technology we have licensed from Greenshift Corporation, for which we pay a royalty."
A little objective data never hurts. People around here should try it instead of conjuring up visions of wine and roses.
Objective would be also to point out that the worst case scenario were no one would want to refinance at better GERS terms then another entity then YAGI could step up to refinance at the same or worse terms.
The YAGI patent claiming scenario is the least probable one that your mind conceives as being the most objective one.
For all yours years watching paint dry it's astonishing how little you see.
Idiot -- your reading comprehension level is below that of an itinerant laborer. When you can read what is written and discuss in the context of its meaning, we can advance here, a little.
pencil dick^
Never confuse vocabulary with knowledge, nor knowledge with wisdom.
Back up the truck. Ethanol Corn Oil Gas Sector hot
Mideast going crazy. Invest in domestic energy
Why boy buy a few hundred K then? Never going to get cheaper -- or is it?
no seller all buys
nice huge bid asks flimsy
Something big I'd brewing here. If you have followed this stock for years you would know it's coming buckle up next three months are gonna be interesting
TY. Your help saved me time.
A what's coming?
Don't be positive now nobody will have something smart to say to shoot you down.
Haven't listened to him in years. The chorus is too loud. Upcoming court outcome will drive pps north get cheap ones while you can. Imo
huge trades 280000 !
ask size cut 1/2 !
And that says it all -- why you are so poor, and illiterate and why I am rich and loquacious. G'd I love pimping these cadets, hope that they do not move on too soon.
Who spent $7 grand?
ask up 2.6 wabr 2.9 !
Be alert, 2% of the supposed OS shares turned over and PPS only gains less than half a percent. The OS, fully diluted is being migrated into the OS, basic.
Ag sj motion tomorrow.
Dumbos -- ALL but one of the big blocks today was a trade initiated as a SALE. Can't you read a bar graph?
All sells and green? We need MORE sells like that! Clever accumulation is what it is.
Not so. The BUY volume is 213,000 and the SELL volume is 515,000. The "flim-flamming" that the penny flippers will stoop to in order to garner a little decimal dust is predatory.
bid hit 2.65 !
ask 2.9 !
Good volume money is flowing in this.
I don't follow you. What's sj?
pps 2.9 !
pps 2.9 !
"SJ" means Summary Judgement. In regards to the current litigation.
close at high !
Idiot, dumbos, sheesh nobody enjoy your life?
That is a beautiful example of how little you learned in all those years, the bar graph remark.
Reading a study book once a while could be really beneficial for you.
Give my regards to your wife.
Nobody wants this stock to fail don't be fooled
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It looked like a sell because the buyer bought everything and the bid rose.
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Nice close.
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haha no body wong a gain hahaha wong a gain hahahahaha
price scribing higher on net accumulation..still not sure that fresh shares are not in the mix...volume bars would show this...but as i have said old or new shares the demand is exceeding the supply and yes the price is rising...
first resistance horizontally is the .03 level,...we clear that with volume(accumulation) eg conviction we are off to the races and then the fist target becomes the recent blow off of .049 price on 403k shares....
glta longs
Fools and their money are soon parted. No better evidence than given by most of the participants in these commentaries.
^ terrible investor...haha sucker learn how to play the market and not get played...look where your thesaurus got you donkey boy.
dont get mad at others when you lose money SUCKER...p.s. your mom still a ho
sometimes it takes 6 years
I agree Nobody, that's why I very rarely post here. You, on the other hand, post regularly.
ok, it is at resistance...will accumulation be sufficient to push through .03 resistance...glta long
Anony 8:27,
I have openly admitted that I am taking a huge, almost foolish gamble on GERS. That to me is the "high" associated with this gambit along with pimping the cadets. The risk here is absolutely huge, but I am willing to look it square in the face, develop additional insights besides those of the disciples, even to where I have been accorded the courtesy of face-to-face meetings and a reasonable number of written communications. I haven't lost a cent and will not lose a cent, because I have "invested" only house money here -- when I hit it big on a similar gamble on GNBT more than six years ago during the avian flu panic.
We will need to catch some lightening in a bottle, get very lucky not to get wiped out, but if we do not, I will be very well off. SO I have it covered, I am enjoying the ride, playing with someone else's money and will be amazed and very happy if this makes a gazillionaire in the many years ahead. If not, so be it -- it was a fun ride.
Hope you get very rich. I hear mental hospitals are very expensive and you obviously need YEARS of extensive care and therapy.
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GREEEEEEN
Fools, idiots, dumbo's, penny flippers, illiterate.
the ministry of disinformation is working on full force.
must be a lonely world were the only sane one is you.
"if all of you only did realize that maybe KK takes GERS private, or even worse maybe tomorrow never comes so stop misleading other people"
The dumbos are flocking today.
Why aren't the bozos and dumbos buying more of these dirt cheap shares? Three cents a share is a 70% discount from the R/S price. Don't you have faith that the PPS can recover to at least that level? What about all the positive earnings filings, and the many court victories since the last R/S? What? Are the bozos, dumbos, illiterate, disciples, and members of the Hallelujah Chorus not people of conviction? Are they afraid of putting just 3 cents where their mouth is? Incredible, perhaps they cannot find their pocket books.
will the injunctive relief prayed for in GERS complaint be automatic if summary judgment is entered for GERS? if so, defendants could be very squeezed during an appeal process.
just wondering.
GGGGGGGGGGGGGERS!>
Why is the self proclaimed 7 year's GERS veteran posting 14 times a day?
All very helpful off course in asking questions he didn't ask 7 years ago.
You don't need to be a fool to explain foolishness.
Nobody will you tell your full name address and tell what car you drive or do you want me to do it? Nobody's mother and step father divorced but kept living in the same house.
That's it -- dodge the critical questions for which a truthful answer would label many as cowards, and just big talkers.
when 1000 people describe very truthful a chair, you will get 1000 truth's.
Calling one of those persons a fool, idiot and the likes does label you as a pea brain.
people still screaming no dilution around the blogs...
i just do not know how that can be proved or not...
i guess just hoping....
i hope so as well....
building cause(accumulation) to launch thru the .03 resistance..
glta
tech:
Over the years one of the sinequanon indicators of dilution was the trade of a large block of shares (usually but not always later in the day) with the PPS BELOW the BID at the time of the trade. These represented discounted shares and there was another block of shares that was traded inside the BID and ASK range that together accounted for the total discount. Of course, these shares could be not be identified as unusual in that they traded in the standard range. Over two quarters I found that I could estimate very accurately the total number of shares moved through dilution by multiplying those traded below the BID by 2.3 (that is 1.3 times the discounted shares were also in the dilution package). For reasons that will be clearer in the next several filings, that method over estimated the OS, basic and way under estimated the OS, fully diluted in the last filing. When we find out where those additional 50 million shares end up we will know the answer to this question. But, we haven't seen as much of the sinequanon trades in the recent past and this leads me to believe that currently dilution may not be as rampant as it has been.
techbody playing with himself^
10:51 Yes it would.
Nobody and his 2.3 BS were wrong the entire Q2! He can't even be civil on iHub anymore and most of his posts are immediately removed by iHub admin. How delusional can one person be?
Spoken by the I-Hub administrator who will resort to any tactic to protect his precious few thousand dollars "investment" from the light of objective inquiry.
Example of what the above I-Hub stooge (administrator) removed as being uncivil: "D' has his theory and he is sticking to it -- regardless. I guess that it makes him feel better; the wishful thinking that is."
When his theory actually makes sense based on the facts, unlike your doom-and-gloom b.s., his theory isn't just "wishful" thinking.
So NoBody, based on your comment at 1:08, you admit that you're comments are toxic to GERS, as someone would have to remove your comments to protect their investment. Thank you.
The "facts" that any knowledgeable person would dismiss in an instant and were by several others. But this dismissal is hurtful to your fantasy and your motives have now been documented.
Truth is never toxic, only ignorance.
2 people do not equate to "several others". Stop exagerating EVERYTHING.
The truth is now coming out -- there is a concerted propaganda campaign here and on I-Hub to co-opt newbies into this stock and thereby rescue their own bad investment. Sounds like a fraudulent scam to me.
I said KNOWLEDGEABLE people, and there are only a few on I-Hub and here. Put your hands over your eyes, ears, and mouth and speak no evil, hear no evil and see no evil -- as you dance to the strings of propaganda and lies of your marionette.
Let’s get real NoBody. You are the propaganda king... of slander.
Just as politcal parties make up B.S. end-of-world theories if the other party is voted into office, you make the same, panic-based comments to instill fear in current and potential investors.
To say there's a propaganda campaign to co-op new investors because one of your comments is removed, is especially ridiculous considering you are the only individual who consistently, day after day, promotes the idea that GERS is a bad investment and that it's all going downhill.
No one, not even the "cadets" are so consistently pushy and forceful about their positive outlook, as you are with your negative, pessimistic outlook.
If anyone is concerting a propaganda campaign, by absolutely all facts and comparisons laid out on the table, it is you.
With an obvious campaign to drive the price down, discredit any and all positive news (as it's been proven over and over again because whenever good news comes out, like clockwork, you're the first person to make up a forward-looking theory based on complete opinion of how that good news is either bad, or will result in nothing positive).
Someone deleting a comment that clearly designates the possibility of the stock rising as complete fantasy is not a co-op propaganda campaign.
But writing up a clever paragraph of "objective questioning" and panic theories, and then posting it on both iHub and sKunk to ensure high visibility of your statements, is absolutely, even by definition, a propaganda campaign.
You are the most pathetic hypocrite I have ever come across in my entire life.
These cadets cannot even write coherently; how they expect others to internalize anything that they attempt to communicate is beyond me. Soon the toll of waiting for their unrequited expectations to come to fruition will take them from us. Hopefully, the next batch will be more interesting.
By the way, I have never stated that this a bad LONG term investment, to the contrary. This is another example of the craft of propagandists, ignoring that which does fit their thesis. It is very likely that I own more shares of this company than any one outside the inner circle. SO, I have put my money (actually GNBT's money) where my beliefs are. The numerous responses on my part to the outlandish near term expectations are only a small proportion of their cannonade. Just think how the world would have been different if someone could have done the same to Herr Goebbels!
Green Plains WedBush Investor Presentation
This is a great presentation from GERS' #1 customer, GPRE, that took place on 9-12.
They talk about corn oil and how yields are going higher. I think .75 pounds can be expected in the near future. I also believe the current price of corn oil is roughly $.44. I do expect it to be in the low $.50's by the end of the year.
There's also a slide show with more information about corn oil and it's contribution to the company.
http://wsw.com/webcast/wedbush22/gpre/
Here's an update about the 3 acre algae project which will be complete in a couple weeks.
Good Luck To All!$!$!$!$
"propagandists", the newest in a long list of demeaning, borderline slander words this psychopath uses to portray himself as the messiah of GERS (or at least it's downfall). Uh oh, watch out...others comments have now been "noted". Can't wait for the trial where we find the judge and jury are all one person.
By the way, after you supposedly made money through GNBT, it became YOUR money, not theirs. If it was enough to pay taxes on, who paid them, GNBT or you. Any of us could make the same claim from previous investments, but it is our choice how to spend or re-invest OUR money.
PEIX Wedbush Investor Presentation
Here's an excellent presentation from a possible GERS' customer, PEIX, that took place on 9-12.
It really is an excellent presentation. I encourage all to listen to it.
They talk about how the car companies are telling the ethanol companies that the new government standard of 54 MPG by 2020 is only possible with the high octane of ethanol. In other words, the new gasoline engines that will be coming out are similar to diesels in that they operate on high compression. I spoke about this in the past, Ricardo engines. They get more MPG of ethanol than gasoline. These smaller, high compression engines can't operate on the low octane of gasoline.
A lot of people are confused into thinking ethanol destroys MPG's, when in fact, it's the 90% subgrade gasoline that's partly to blame for the drop. Today's vehicles can't even operate on this subgrade form of gasoline without ethanol in it. Tomorrow's engines are being designed to take full advantage of the superior fuel, ethanol. Make no mistake about it, ethanol is a better fuel than gas.
It's no wonder people in "the know" are buying up more stock in ethanol, like the top investor of BIOF.
On slide 12, it states PEIX is in discussions with vendors to put corn oil technology in their other 3 plants. It's clear ICM was only awarded 1 contract for their smaller plant. In fact, ICM gave it to them and said pay us back(PR stunt). They're in discussions with other vendors(plural).
It's clear the door is still open for GERS. If ICM was awarded all the contracts, they wouldn't be in discussions with other vendors.
PEIX expects .50-.55 pounds per bushel from this ICM system. REX just reported .50 pounds, well below what Greenshift is doing and not even in the same ball park as 1.33.
It's interesting to note that method II will be ready by the end of the year. PEIX expects the other plants to have oil extraction technology by Q113.
http://wsw.com/webcast/wedbush22/peix/
In the presentation, PEIX does call it both corn oil extraction and seperation. I thought that was interesting.
Good Luck To All!$!$!$!$
Thank you Slash,
even though your posts shall be called misleading the newbies
You apparently have no concept of "getting money off the table" to make the statements that you did about taxes and the house's money versus one's initial stake. Stay out of Vegas Bozo. I guess you never got up enough to walk away a winner; that's OK stay here for the next five years and you will have some shekels in your pocket, finally. And if you think that this gambit is different that stock poker you truly are misguided.
dipchit donkey doo^
wong a gain no body hahaha u wong a gain hhahahahahaha wong wong losr u wong hahahahahahahahaha
are you from china^
I LOVE IT...NO DILUTION....NEWS POPS THIS OVER A DOLLAR..YES $1...
daytonapaul,
could you explain to a less certain, how you know NO Dilution....i hope you are correct...what do you look at to see lack of dilution by gers?..thank you..
glta longs
It has been scientifically proven that people who repeatedly post obnoxious meaningless long one character or one word posts suffer from IPS (internal penis syndrome). back to real discussion, how can this thing move without volume? Any increase or decrease in share price independent of volume means very little.
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D-I-L-U-T-I-O-N good bye
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The morons on these GERS' boards are scaring people with IQs above that of paramecium.
After summary judgement is clear neilbody dilutes on his boyfriend
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GREENSHIFT....GERS....ON THE VERGE OF NYSE TRADING. ALGAE, CORN MANY OTHER PATENTS BEING LICENSED
GREENSHIFT CORP Financials Sat, Sep 15
Income Statement Get Income Statement for:
View: Annual Data | Quarterly Data All numbers in thousands
Period Ending Jun 29, 2012 Mar 30, 2012 Dec 30, 2011 Sep 29, 2011
Total Revenue 4,243 2,912 2,846 6,332
Cost of Revenue 1,488 1,312 2,162 4,366
Gross Profit 2,755 1,600 684 1,966
Operating Expenses
Research Development 38 - - -
Selling General and Administrative 558 1,656 1,815 1,127
Non Recurring - - 1,033 -
Others - - - -
Total Operating Expenses - - - -
Operating Income or Loss 2,159 (57) (2,165) 839
Income from Continuing Operations
Total Other Income/Expenses Net 3,045 (61) (1,778) 2,570
Earnings Before Interest And Taxes 5,204 (118) (3,943) 3,409
Interest Expense 560 579 799 745
Income Before Tax 4,643 (697) (4,742) 2,664
Income Tax Expense - - - -
Minority Interest - - - -
Net Income From Continuing Ops 7,715 (697) (4,742) (3,244)
Non-recurring Events
Discontinued Operations - - 172 -
Extraordinary Items - - - -
Effect Of Accounting Changes - - - -
Other Items - - - -
Net Income 4,643 (697) (4,571) 2,664
Preferred Stock And Other Adjustments - - - -
Net Income Applicable To Common Shares 4,643 (697) (4,571) 2,664
Currency in USD.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=gers
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