GERS can File reply MIO HERE
GERS can file reply MIS, Seal granted for 10 days Here
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Two tiny tactical wins, GERS allowed to file both a reply Memorandum of Opposition and a reply Memorandum of Support.
Saturday, March 22, 2014
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http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/companies/greenshift-corporation/
How come the stock price is miserable with all the good news?
To Sunnybank:
I know exactly how you feel. But I am very stubborn and that almost cost me a great deal in this gambit. I am not a trader by any means, I love the thrill of the gamble, and I do believe in the very long term potential of this stock-poker affair. That said, over the years I learned my lesson and I have recently "profited" from it.
There is only one paradigm -- dilution continues or increases and the PPS will fall. We have seen that validated over the years. Last year I finally capitalized on this fact. When the announcement was made that the litigation was going to be expanded (and as a result I knew that the dilution would be ramped up) I sold everything for around 2 cents a share. When KK stepped down I thought this was sign that new financing was on the horizon (and therefore dilution would end in the foreseeable future). I thought that KK stepping down as CEO would be a requirement of the investor providing the new financing. We bought a very large position over several weeks at 0.0002 - 0.0003. A few weeks ago when the obvious pump came for ICP (there had not been any other PRs for the other unannounced signings and I knew that this was an unusual "break" from the attorney controlled communications) we sold-out almost all our position. As of this writing I have been in this company for nearly eight years and now am only a few thousand down compared to the $100K I threw at this over the years.
Other proof of the validity of this paradigm is the current stabilization of the PPS that has resulted from no more shares available to dilute until April 7. This in spite of the fact that virtually every one knows that after April 7 the massive dilution will continue. My point -- nothing else matters in the face of the historical massive dilution; not earnings, not potential, not hype, not well-being of clients, not economic times -- only dilution. What can change this -- only one outcome the court awarded damages from this round of litigation and that is still a long way off. A major settlement with ICM would also. But with what is known about how DVG has viewed this personally, almost irrationally, sound business decisions are not going to be made and the major infringer will fight on, to the last breath.
New financing would change this immediately, but they have tried very hard for more than two years to achieve this and failed. Either the suitors want more control than KK will give (i.e. real corporate governance), or their books are too bad for any but more toxic financing. So I now dismiss that possibility in the immediate and intermediate term.
There is one possibility on the horizon, besides the massive dilution that WILL start again in April. A SJ, full (which I doubt) or partial will cause an immediate pop in the PPS. This is why I held on to a small portion of my last position (25 million shares) to capitalize on this possibility. During the day or so buying panic that the SJ will create I will sell the rest of my position. Then when people realize that the SJ will be appealed and nothing will change in the near term, especially the dilution, I believe that the PPS will fall back to previous levels and even lower as the massive dilution continues. WHEN, and only when, it is imminent that the court awarded damages are in GERS' treasury will I buy back-in BIG TIME. Through execution of the painful lessons I will have substantial resources remaining to do so. If I had not headed the reality of this paradigm I too would have little chance to satisfy my stubbornness.
I make no advice to others, I do warn continuously about the ridiculous unbridled short-term enthusiasm, and continuously point out the real factor affecting the PPS.
I enjoyed your opinion and the inner view of your trading strategy for GERS. It is a 'common sense' approach indeed but the caveat I throw out there is oftentimes in the stock market the stock prices rise and fall for many reasons other than, common sense.
If a SJ is issued there will indeed be appeals but the damage to the 'other' sides case will have been severely eroded. For example: It will be a given that ICM will be hard pressed to find any buyers of their technology. Also, shareholders in those companies appealing will be viewing the loss and act accordingly. Also, it is easy to appeal but very, very, verrry hard to win when the evidence is concrete, or if you prefer, written in patent stone...
As it has been pointed out before 95% of patent infringing cases are settled before getting to trial or appeal.
Now, as per the comment about revenue, I disagree slightly in that depending on the increase (or decrease) in revenue, it will impact the pps. Increased revenue means more money to fund operations, pay debt, etc...while we all know what decreasing revenue can do.
Interesting times to be invested in GERS and I am fully invested and in the, 'wait and see' mode, but it is a risk to say the least.
I feel that more companies are going to realize a form of negotiated settlement would be a MUCH better path for both their shareholders and corporate management...Interesting times indeed.
a lot has happened since the last split, when the pps held favorably for a while:
new and improved markman
tpo re-issuance
new business
new patents
no drought (which may have impeded the full production by all licensees that was expected to occur by the 3rd or 4th quarter of 2012)
reduced debt
increased income
new ceo
reduced as
2.4b x >01 = >22m
new par value???
hope so.
Wonderful to read legitimate discussion here instead of the usual dribble.
"A reverse split would allow the Company to avoid these costs and the potential future debt default."
does this mean there will be no potential debt default in the future?
Does it pay to buy gets on 3/24/14?
does it pay to buy gers on 3/24/14? Are they splitting?
does it pay to buy gers on 3/24/14? Are they splitting?
Earnings releasing this week? Or will they ask for an extension with the pending RS? I was thinking of trying to meet Mrs. Kreisler today for lunch. Any takers?
Robin Lipinski, friend of the Mrs. who probably got stuck holding the bag. Family parties can't be comfortable. What is the weather like in NJ?
It is becoming clear that sometime in the next 8 - 9 trading days we are going to have a Saturday Night Massacre. Many folks will ride the no dilution tide (no shares available to dilute) until that time and bail like crazy at the first sign that the dam has broken. Too many smart traders here that will not wait until they can no longer sell their GERS shares, while they wait for the GERSD shares to be issued. During this time YAGI will have fresh GERSD shares to flood the market with and they know what this will mean. So, 8 to 9 days and counting to the Saturday Night Massacre.
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Why does this idiot keep posting the bid/ask information? I repeat, idiot...
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http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-galveston-oil-spill-20140323,0,5667259.story#axzz2wuDqMRIg
https://ecf.insd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?12013cv8015-41
Saturday Nig ([??? sj, 10k, Q1, $$$ ???]) ght Massacre
will any of it matter
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-24/heart-defects-in-gulf-tuna-seen-tied-to-2010-bp-oil-spill.html
Issue Date of Patent: 03-25-2014 8,679,353
Title of Invention: METHOD AND SYSTEMS FOR ENHANCING OIL RECOVERY FROM ETHANOL PRODUCTION BYPRODUCTS
Issue date: 3/25/2014
8,679,353
Earliest Publication Date: 08-09-2012
First Named Inventor: DAVID J. WINSNESS , ALPHARETTA, GA
http://portal.uspto.gov/pair/view/BrowsePdfServlet?objectId=HSFETGV4PXXIFW4&lang=DINO
Parent Continuity Data
This application is a Continuation of 13/185,841 07-19-2011 Pending -
is a continuation of 11/856,150 09-17-2007 Patented 8,168,037
is a continuation of 11/908,891 09-17-2007 Pending -
is National Stage Entry of PCT/US2006/009238 03-15-2006 - - -
Claims Priority from Provisional Application 60/661,733 03-16-2005
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We should start a poll: given that the PPS immediately after the R/S is X what will the PPS be on May 1? (1) More than X+10%, (2) X+10%, (3)X, (4)X-10%, (5)X-20%, (6)lower than X-20%.
I will start off -- the first vote is (6).
In other words, in my view buying opportunities will abound for the patient and still intrigued GERSlanders..
Is that based on the same data from which you contrived the "idea" of a 10,000 to 1 R/S, a no bid after vacation, and no new contracts?
Looks like patent is owned by Wisness and has nothing to do with GERS so why even mention it?
Again, Slash you conveniently forget that the playing field was dramatically changed with the announcement of the R/S AND the authorized share count being magically reduced by more than 88%. The dilution spree that occurred before the last R/Ss could not have happened now because they exhausted the shares for dilution. Ignoring this fact, prohibits you or anyone else from seeing what is happening and why any views stated before the announcement were based on assumptions violated by GERS themselves. And ignoring this reality will potentially cause great damage to to your equity post R/S, which is the thesis of the poll.
And Slash I would be the last to challenge the correctness of assumptions and projections, if I were you. You have been a "Strong Buy" proponent all the while the PPS has fallen 99.9999%.
You're trying to do the same thing as the defendant's, change something that's written in stone. (prevost 15% water, as apposed to 15% fat.)
Your newest failed prediction was one of the only times and certainly the most recent prediction. It's ok, you were only off by 9,900.
"I am expecting that we will see 10,000:1 R/S. By that time the OS will be a billion and the R/S will bring that down to 100,000 and this will be attractive to the uninitiated."
Yes much has changed. GERS reduced debt by another $2.2M, gained 4 new licenses and got an equipment installation contract as well as several more patents including 1 just today.
False predictions of "no bid after vaction", as well as "no new contracts" have fallen to the wayside.
Nobody's down 99%, not even you.
GERS continues to prove it's critics wrong.
GERS continues to innovate by developing new technologies, they continue to eliminate debt, gain new customers, grow cash reserves, and grow revenues.
All while bringing the unlawful use of their patented technologies to an end.
Nobody but GERS and its predecessors PPS'. A simple exercise, take the PPS of 0.32 from April 2006. Correct the current PPS for the four R/Ss since then and calculate the percentage drop from 0.32; breath taking, and precipitously in one downward direction.
Come on Slash, you just can't hide from these truths. Why try? Embrace them and accept we have major, major issues here to resolve that will not occur overnight. Perhaps then you could be more helpful to legitimate dialogue.
$200,000,000 in 2006 is now worth $1. It is a fact.
Stating the obvious that GERS has been damaged through infringement is old news. We're all well aware of this. This does nothing to distract from the self proclaimed "Nostradamus of GERS'" losing streak of false predictions fallen to the wayside.
GERS continues to eliminate debt, grow revenues, win court rulings, and have patents re-issued as valid.
Distraction tactics centered around the damage unlawful use of GERS' patented technology is of no use. This does nothing to predict the future of GERS.
GERS' Patented Ethanol Waste to Plastic Process
It saves ethanol plant's energy and money.
It makes them more money by selling a higher value product.
The plastic additive not only makes plastic stronger, but reduces the amount of material needed plus allows recyclers to "blend" different types of plastic back into new products, instead of the landfill.
By lowering the carbon intensity of ethanol, it's a valued process.
All the above is repeating what GERS is and has done with oil extraction, and that is to take a waste stream, turn it into a higher value product while saving energy and making more money.
The DDS Biocomposite additive has physical properties that allow previously unmixable materials to blend together at lower temperatures.
"...adding DDS BioComposite as a processing aid to these kinds of plastic conversions, energy requirements for the plastic processing were reduced as well as the temperature at which the plastic melted and became flowable. "
"We also found that under the right conditions this material will produce a microcellular foam," Tate says. "It reduces the amount of material required to fill a mold and is extremely compatible with a broad-range of thermoplastics."
Patent issued: 8,598,256
Patent Issued: 8,449,986
Patent Allowed: 13/863,758
Patent Allowed: 13/892,347
Patent Pending: 14/087,229
Title of Invention: MULTIFUNCTIONAL BIOCOMPOSITE ADDITIVE COMPOSITIONS AND METHODS 4. The biopolymer of claim 2, wherein the fibers comprise wood fibers, agricultural fibers, flax fibers, hemp fibers, kenaf fibers, wheat fibers, soybean fibers, switchgrass fibers, grass fibers, fibrous waste from the paper or wood industries, fiberglass fibers, aramid fibers, carbon fibers, nylon, or combinations thereof. The present additives and/or biopolymers can include a fiber additive. Suitable fibers include any of a variety of natural and synthetic fibers. Cellulose fibers include, without limitation, those from wood, agricultural fibers, including flax, hemp, kenaf, wheat, soybean, switchgrass, and grass, fibers obtained from paper and other fiber recycling, including, without limitation, household and industrial paper recycling streams, fibrous waste from the paper or wood industries, including paper mill sludge. Synthetic fibers include fiberglass, Kevlar, carbon fiber, nylon; mixtures or combinations thereof, and the like. Mineral or silica additives may also be used. The fiber can modify the performance of the biopolymers. For example, longer fibers can be added to biopolymers structural members to impart higher flexural and rupture modulus. In some embodiments, the DDS biocomposite additive or biopolymer can include about 0.001% to about 40% (HEMP) fiber.
3/24/2014 Application is Considered Ready for Issue
03-24-2014 Dispatch to FDC
03-24-2014 Application Is Considered Ready for Issue
13/863,758 MULTIFUNCTIONAL BIOCOMPOSITE ADDITIVE COMPOSITIONS AND METHODS
"Petroleum-based plastics can have a devastating impact on our environment. Approximately 300 million tons of plastic are produced globally each year. At these quantities, we could wrap the entire planet several times over,"
Parent Continuity Data
This application is a Division of 12/466,336 Patented 8,449,986
is a Continuation-in-part of 12/398,984 Patented 7,937,850
Claims Priority from Provisional Application 61/053,196
Claims Priority from Provisional Application 61/068,191
http://portal.uspto.gov/pair/PublicPair
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3/24/2014 Another GERS Biocomposite Patent "Ready for Issue"
03-24-2014 Dispatch to FDC
03-24-2014 Application Is Considered Ready for Issue
First Named Applicant: GS CLEANTECH CORPORATION , New York, NY
Title of Invention: MULTIFUNCTIONAL BIOCOMPOSITE ADDITIVE COMPOSITIONS AND METHODS
Application number 13/892,347
Parent Continuity Data
This application is a Division of 12/466,336 Patented 8,449,986
is a Continuation-in-part of 12/398,984 Patented 7,937,850
Claims Priority from Provisional Application 61/068,191
http://portal.uspto.gov/pair/PublicPair
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If their patents are that great, why R/S? They could just sell one of the patents for say $50 mil and get rid of the toxic financials.
As of this time GERS is a company of patent accumulation, litigation, and massive dilution to support them. what you are describing is a business act that would be in the interest of the common shareholders. Whatever you may think of GERS' future, the past is clearly one of lack of concern for the common shareholder despite the $125 million (compared to less than $50 million from KK's school chum at YAGI) we have provided to keep this company going and KK's dream alive.
If a public company doesn't work for common share owners, who else?
Good digging slash many thanks 2 u.
The preferred shareholders. They hold all the power.
That was not true before KK wiped out all the common share values.
Stating the obvious that GERS has been damaged through infringement is old news. We're all well aware of this. This does nothing to distract from the self proclaimed "Nostradamus of GERS'" losing streak of false predictions fallen to the wayside.
GERS continues to eliminate debt, grow revenues, win court rulings, and have patents re-issued as valid.
Distraction tactics centered around the damage unlawful use of GERS' patented technology is of no use. This does nothing to predict the future of GERS.
Slash..
How dare can you say that while the stock lost its value by 99.999% over the years? You must be either an excellent boiler man or a mental patient.
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