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SkunK
"Cattle Carcass" sounds like road kill - just think steaks!
The video talks about how Canadian feed lots can use "low oil" as leverage to bargain for a lower price. Yet the video does not mention the study showed low oil "had no effect" on production performance!
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" ... no effect on cattle carcass"?
Someone know where to find carcasses that have delivered $120+ million in cash? Now those are some expensive hides -- ours. I love the current flock of newbies that consider themselves better than the other flocks of newbies that have left this field of battle completely vanquished. Yup, there are sure going get in a kick killing; theirs.
You're late! You were supposed to be bashing an hour ago! What's this? "Yup, there are sure going get in a kick killing; theirs" Damn it kid! Hung over again!?
Dave Vandegriend
Some of us old "newbies" never left. Just tired of useless conversations with a self-appointed "prophet" over a penny stock! Get a life!
The blaming of the 99.9999% loss of equity and the PPS over the last seven+ years on shorters, infringers, bashers, dastardly MMs, and the man in the moon, is the classic example of hoping, believing, and denial, instead of thinking. In that regard, all of the lost tens of millions of dollars was well deserved, and the losses to come (for a while) even more so. I have no empathy for these losers, myself included, I have even further disdain for those who think that it is going to be different NOW.
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Color blind?
90 cent bid wack you go griend!
Now it is the "bid whackers"; the Man in the Moon is no longer the culprit?
You're right nobody, infringers are 100% to blame.
If that is the case then it is going to be a long, long time before that grievance is righted. Google: "litigating the margins".
6s about gone !
Sure sounds like it.
"The proceedings have, however, significantly increased Lincolnway Energy's legal costs."
Don't worry, there is an inexhaustible supply being minted.
"costs to defendants has become burdensome"
Newegg’s “Scorched Earth” Policy Backfires
A federal judge in Texas has ordered on-line retailer Newegg to pay IPNav client TQP Development’s legal fees and costs as a fine for Newegg engaging in abusive litigation tactics in filing and pursuing a frivolous motion.
Newegg’s assault on patent rights is not working out so well. In fact, this isn’t the first time that Newegg has been slapped down by a court because of its “screw them!” (a direct quote from Newegg’s general counsel) attitude toward “patent trolls” in general, and its vendetta against IPNav in particular. Just last month Newegg’s attempt to paint IPNav and its client Data Carriers as “abusers” of the court system was thrown out, along with its attempt to bring IPNav – an advisory firm – directly into the court battle.
The current case is even more satisfying, because the judge said that not only was defendant Newegg wrong, Newegg was the one abusing the court system. And the judge ordered Newegg to pay up.
Newegg filed a very broad motion with the court, demanding that TQP provide to Newegg “[a]ll communications between [IPNav] and [TQP] …”
In other words they wanted to see everything IPNav and TQP ever talked about. TQP’s counsel attempted to reason with Newegg and have them focus the request on actual information that would be relevant to the litigation (if any). To no avail, Newegg and their counsel continued to abuse the system and even filed a motion to attempt to force TQP to comply with Newegg’s ridiculous demands.
Newegg’s General Counsel Lee Chen has famously said he will not settle any patent infringement lawsuits because “settlement only feeds the beast.” And he’s so incensed over being forced to pay reasonable license fees for the intellectual property that Newegg uses that he lets his lawyers go crazy and file frivolous motion after frivolous motion, just to add delays and make it more expensive for the patent owner. This time that strategy backfired.
There are a couple of lessons that can be learned from this episode:
1.Newegg’s emotional campaign against patent rights, inventors and patent owners is misguided and is costing Newegg shareholders considerable money.
2.There is such a thing as “abusive patent litigation”—and it is not exclusively engaged in by patent owners. Defendants have plenty of “abusive” things that they can do to attempt to abuse the court system and bully a legitimate plaintiff.
Abusive defenders such as Newegg impose costs that exceed billions of dollars on the judicial system with no benefit to anyone other than their hourly counsel. The Neweggs of the world should be forced to pay for the excessive legal fees incurred by patent owners that are the direct result of Newegg’s abusive and reckless litigation strategy. It’s apparent that at the end of the day Newegg is willing to do or say anything (including in documents filed with US Federal Courts) in its quest to not compensate inventors and companies for IP that it is misappropriating. Its nice to see that the Courts are calling Newegg on this strategy and making them pay.
In our blog post last month about Newegg we closed with saying
In their pursuit of their quest to end litigation abuse for baseless and frivolous assertions in litigation, we trust Mr. Chen will be sending a check our way.
It has now turned into reality. Mr. Chen will be sending our client a check.
Newegg no, ICM yes in terms of successful strategy. Have you looked at how long we have been engaged in what has become the MDL litigation, and how much money has changed hands? Perhaps more importantly, if just a few folks in the rest of the world thought that this was going to end up "smelling like roses" any time soon, why is the PPS sub penny? Until you can address this reality everything else is just dreaming and irrelevant, no mater how hard you try to buoy your spirits.
Printing presses finished -- get your red hot fresh 6's at the fire sale.
pix.bk
Yea pathetic ethanol is just a causality of the "successful strategy".
I see 0% chance of defendants winning this.
you can only delay the inevitable
There are several timetables for the "inevitable". The common share holders care only that it occurs before the next R/S -- unlikely and that BK is not filed before that horizon. It is inevitable that KK and the inner circle will see the inevitable pot of gold; it is foolish to assume that any one of the current shareholders will. Perhaps the next generation after the R/S and/or reorganization.
lots of assumptions zero proof
share holders
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moron
Their words not mine:
"The continued infringement hinders CleanTech’s ability to license the technology to ethanol plant operators who consider using (or are currently using) the corn oil extraction technology. When CleanTech is able to successfully license the patents-insuit to a customer, it is at a substantially reduced rate than it would be but for the infringement. Worse still, the continued infringement may cause current licensees to reconsider their licenses."
Revenue falling, royalties falling, no new licensees, client's renegotiating, costs increasing, large unpaid debt, end of note looming, litigation expanding, PPS falling requiring increasing number of tens of millions of shares just to pay one month's legal fees, therefore massive dilution continuing (likely more than a billion shares by the time of the 10K) -- what part of this do you not understand? What part of the history that continues to be recreated and is doing so again right in front of you, do you not accept?
false assumptions no proof
Hang on to that "banky", you are going to need in the months ahead.
What infringer do you work for an how much is their legal bill to date?
I have no idea what their legal bills are, but I have heard that they pay "associates" well to respond to false information and misrepresentations on various BBs; $500/day base + $10 for each responsive post, in cash. If that is true then they aren't hurting as much as some hope.
If that is true, then by engaging certain " associates" you increase their opportunity to capitalize through "responsive posts". Imagine that, you help lining the pockets of those that want to rob you! Of course, if that is true.
Where did you here that?
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Icm can't afford paying own employees let alone bashers inside family memebers bash to cut costs.
That is true insider info.
Color blind?
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No Sir 99.9999% in the RED! You are indeed color blind!
And now you know why I don't post any more. Same old delusional psychopath annoying everyone for years. There's no knocking him off his throne. By the way, the throne I'm referring to is used to relieve ourselves, that's why we keep hearing the same ole' sh*t from this guy.
"The same old" is a function of the same old facts here. When that story changes its description will as well. As for the years -- you are correct. If my perspective was warped there has been more than adequate time to prove it incorrect. Instead, year after year, I have been proven correct time and again. I believe it is that fact that has you so weary. Thank you for documenting my success here. As for not posting any more of your delusional hysteria, I can understand that as a wise decision; it is truly embarrassing to be that wildly wrong.
Time to get started a little early -- tough day coming. The silence over the Writ of Mandamus is NOT deafening. Go to the DC Appellate Court for IP web site. There you will see the amount of time that they are allowed by the Supreme Court. No wonder the strategy called "litigating the margins" is so often employed. Now the GERS' common shareholders have another enemy to add to the infringers, our current customers for taking advantage of difficult times, YAGI for bleeding us dry, KK for expanding the litigation front beyond our ability to support without massive dilution -- we have the court system and its leisurely timetable.
Agreed SkunK,
Makes you wonder why they think there's leverage when there's no effect on quality/performance. I think they have it backwards. Notice the key words were "common inclusion rate" (20%). Let's see what 40% regular DDGS does in comparison to 40% de-oiled DDGS inclusion rates.
They'll see a difference in carcass quality with the de-oiled DDGS subjects having superior carcass quality characteristics over the stuff that hasn't been extracted.
DDGS are a concentrate. Extracting the oil aligns the oil content to a level that's naturally found in corn.
Lower oil content allows for higher inclusion rates of high protein feed.
I like comparing it to eating a bunch of fried food as opposed to baked.
Here's a similar study on swine...
DDGS With Too Much Corn Oil, Bad For Livestock
Too much oil/fat in the DDGS raises the iodine levels creating unwanted soft fat. Soft fat contributes to many problems. Higher levels of extracted DDGS can be fed to livestock. Hope this helps.
"One challenge associated with DDGS feeding relates to soft fat that occurs in pork carcasses when high levels of DDGS are included in the diet. Soft fat creates problems for processors when they slice bacon and for consumers that discriminate against pork products that have an oily or soft appearance. The soft fat results from the high levels of corn oil present in the DDGS."
http://www.ces.purdue.edu/extmedia/id/id-345-w.pdf
http://www.thepigsite.com/articles/2686/lowsolubles-dried-distillers-grains-improves-pork-fat-quality
http://www.hubbardfeeds.com/swine/Guides/TechLineSep09.pdf Less
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You understand that is just for the last eleven months?
52wk High/Date
0.085 / 10/1/2012
52wk Low/Date
0.0005 / 9/9/2013
% off 52wk High
-99.41%
Any one do any thinking about where all these 0.0005 and 0.0006 shares are coming from? Certainly not the decimal-penny flippers since we have never traded traded lower. If you think hard you will come up with he answer. And that answer will lead to the conclusion that we are going lower.
Extract Oil to Cut Transportation Costs
At 40% inclusion rates, distillers has 130% the feed value of corn. Nebraska research has looked at the impact on feed value and found very little.
"For feedlots that find ways to fill pens, distillers grains continue as a practical alternative to corn. Wet distillers grains and solubles (WDGS) hold the greatest promise for finishing cattle, feed value exceeding 130 percent that of corn at up to 40 percent inclusion.
That's according to Galen Erickson, University of Nebraska-Lincoln Extension feedlot specialist.
"Wetter is better," he said. But transportation costs add up, so one way to cut back is to extract most of the oil. Nebraska research has looked at the impact on feed value and found very little.
Feedlots may also fill some pens by taking in cow/calf pairs, noted UNL colleague Terry Klopfenstein. He summarized research with initial data that shows that is cost-effective as long as cows can spend the winter grazing on stalks or other cheap feed.
Those remarks led off the panel discussions in Omaha, while in Kansas that slot went to Pratt Feeders manager Jerry Bohn. He revealed preliminary results comparing cattle fed with and without shade in the feedlot, where performance was unaffected."
http://www.midwestproducer.com/news/livestock/forum-speakers-outline-options-for-future-in-cattle-feeding/article_0c8d4b94-1578-11e3-821a-001a4bcf887a.html
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n0body cry again, skunk beat him hard what dufus
it ran around 400% after the last RS --- so what?
Ok taking it to the foundation of trading person to person. No paper money, coins, just product or services. 1 man has basket of 30 bananas and a man steps up and inquires of the bananas as he would like some, so the man with the bananas asks the other what do you have to trade? The man who wanted the bananas was actually a marooned time traveller from a distant possible future. He showed the banana man, who had a few buddies sitting with him just for company, a visa credit card, about $80 in US dollars and a certificate for 1 million shares of GERS and the banana man looked at him bewildered then looked at his buddies and they looked at the strange papers bewildered and chuckled then asking what is this? I don't need these things, what else do you have to trade? The time traveller realized he was in a time when there was no paper money or coins or credit cards etc... people were just trading products and services, although the formula of Value is created and fluctuates by the fluctuations of Supply and Demand, is still the rule of thumb.
Liquidity here is not so liquid when you don't have what the other would like to trade for. So the banana man and his buddies have started to notice the not from around here look, in the time travellers looks, speech and clothing and of course his strange paper, card type things he offered to trade. Fyi time traveller had no weapons with him. So the banana man said looking at the travellers jacket and said how about that coat you have on I give you 10 bananas for it, traveller said throw in some drinking water and it's a deal. So banana man tried on the jacket and said it's a deal and liking the jacket so much said here are an extra 5 and a travelleing jug with a sling so he can take some water with him.
It went well and they invited him to sit with them and eat, so they spent the next few hours eating and laughing with their new strange friend, who then realized they were all not so different actually the same with just different systems of trading. They were simple men of a non technological age, men with hearts, minds of imagination, and warriors who fought in hand to hand combat or with wood and rocks like spears and hand axes. They sat by the campfire and the time traveller realized this was just not back in time, but a totally different version, like in the Twilight Zone.
I invested for long in summer 2010 and now I see it's almost worthless in current value, another r/s would delete my investment, along with others like me. Although following the news it seems they have used every penny from investors for the glory of corn oil. For the BIG fish it's about high profit margins, like with the early Texas oil boom and John Rockefeller and Standard Oil and Sweet Crude like in the Middle East as operational costs are low and the profit margin is very high, the profit margin drops when oil must be obtained from harder to get methods like deep sea, shale, etc... more spent on extraction and refining reduces the profit margin. Ethanol shows somewhat profits, then not so good and even needs Gov. Subsidizing. But at least it's renewable and can be derived from various crops like corn, sugarcane, algae, etc... Oil has only been around for like a little over century but it has become quite a monster and created quite a few tyrants? War for Oil, Pollution, the extra high tab added to the peoples monthly bill's as electric power plants run from the oil and we are stuck paying the meter. Tesla brought us the answer with electric current drawn from the ionosphere and wirelessly distributed, our world would be much different now and oil would take a much much smaller place in our energy usage. But it seems Mr. Illuminati / Fed Reserve Bank owned by Private Bankers who are not even American Citizens, Mr J.P Morgan saw Teslas invention as a threat because of it's economy and functionality, it was genius, a breakthru for mankind like with his invention of alternating current, etc.. It is sad that Mr. Edison chose to be Jealous and his Ego was full of animosity to the point of even trying to derail Tesla, insane. So J.P . Morgan scoffed at Tesla because he knew the profit margin would be far far lower and we probably would not feel a bit of the meter. So he made sure Teslas invention would not become the premier energy source. The invention is still there, the Wardencliff Tower which they destroyed.
Maybe it was too early or too far ahead of time for the peoples as the same tech could as a weapon be used to just fry mass areas with frequency waves, Tesla was a master of vibration and frequency modulation demodulation and before Marconi had transfered electric power wirelessly and in total saftey as it was a matter of frequency. So much greed in the Oil as the ultra rich it has created see it as their income flow and after billion and trillions they only want more, like Darth Vader or rather the Emperor. So much in their greed, heartlessly and seemingly like aliens they trample the now peasant folk? with their system all for even more power and high profit gains.
Im still rooting for the team! Yay! Go team gers , but I wonder what is their true viewpoint of the common investors? Unless they announce some huge settlement received from the infringers and very soon, they will have taken every penny from us and will be asking more to continue, with the hope of winning a settlement. Like starving to death, I still think they should have flowed out some of the wealth that they used in special cash dividends so the guys who got weeded out could have at least got some of the steaks.
After all we paid for a very large amount of it, what $120 million over the years from investors?
I'm still holding to see if they prove they can create gains for their long term investors, i have 99% loss in value right now. Or is this just part of some huge corporate scam, like on Jesse Ventura with the BP conspiracy theory. I still hold and have faith but do consider the worst, I not insulting anyone personally just the facts of what has happened from my viewpoint. I hear most people know the great depressions of the early 1900's were rigged and manipulated by the extremely wealthy, to bankrupt all and then take all assets as they further do again and again with shady fraudulant morally bad manipulation, just basic thieves con artists, just they deal on big numbers. They are within our Government and our Worldwide Biggest Corporations, and we just got to love them right!
must be the lesser of two evils? and at least human slavery is no more! All kinds of people were slaves to all kinds of people who just had more power , but small hearts. Love will eventually triumph.
Im still rooting for the team! Yay! Go team gers , but I wonder what is their true viewpoint of the common investors? Unless they announce some huge settlement received from the infringers and very soon, they will have taken every penny from us and will be asking more to continue, with the hope of winning a settlement. Like starving to death, I still think they should have flowed out some of the wealth that they used in special cash dividends so the guys who got weeded out could have at least got some of the steaks.
After all we paid for a very large amount of it, what $120 million over the years from investors?
I'm still holding to see if they prove they can create gains for their long term investors, i have 99% loss in value right now. Or is this just part of some huge corporate scam, like on Jesse Ventura with the BP conspiracy theory. I still hold and have faith but do consider the worst, I not insulting anyone personally just the facts of what has happened from my viewpoint. I hear most people know the great depressions of the early 1900's were rigged and manipulated by the extremely wealthy, to bankrupt all and then take all assets as they further do again and again with shady fraudulant morally bad manipulation, just basic thieves con artists, just they deal on big numbers. They are within our Government and our Worldwide Biggest Corporations, and we just got to love them right!
must be the lesser of two evils? and at least human slavery is no more! All kinds of people were slaves to all kinds of people who just had more power , but small hearts. Love will eventually triumph. I think all those super rich people those mega billionaires, could like lose half of that and give it out as stimulus to the other 99% of us USA citizens and we would all be quite happy and believe me scrooge would melt because people would actually like and respect him a bit more, and say thanks scrooge now I can drive to work pay off my house in a shorter time and feed my family. The USA has 300 million citizens , yet 40 million cant even feed themselves and are on EBT. WTF? The greatest economy with a GDP of $16 trillion , yet the gap is far, far too wide corruption has used freedom to bypass anykind of top end regulation and the upper echelon of business takes what they want of the pie, and then determines what to give the lower end workers. Unrestricted capitalism is it not wonderful.
Go Obama! ok just a pat on the back for the Commander In Chief, as the power movers do the big things and make more money in one day than those 40 million US citizens on EBT in ?..... Remember that saying dont take life too seriously youll never get out alive, but the lord will judge so get ready
that's why i would vote to enact the death penalty for corporate fraudsters.
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