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3:14-4:50 GERS COES
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Feedstock Conditioning!
Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer, 37
So who will benefit from this relationship? Stay tuned to find out!
Project Manager, 2006-08 Greenshift Ethanol Conf Attendee, Alparetta, GA - About 28 years old
Rachael is a 1994 Graduate of Lakeside, a private Prep school in Seattle, WA. Rachael is a graduate of The University of the South, with a cum laude bachelor's degree in biological psychology and minors in fine arts and philosophy. One time IBM site designer, worked on Macy's e-commerce site and the redesign of the NYSE site. Founder of Kissykat and Candent Corp. As of March 31, 2008, the Company (GERS) owed Candent Corporation $757,853 (the "Candent Note"). The former president of Candent is the wife of the Company's chairman. All of the issued and outstanding capital stock held by Candent is in trust for the benefit of its former president. The note payable to Candent shall bear interest at a rate of 10% per year and matures November 8, 2010. (P. 21 1st Quarter)
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Time Line for Patents
- 17 Aug 2004 Clean Tech filed first COES Provisional Patent Application “050”
- 2004 Inventors Disclosed Technology to ICM. ICM executed Confidentiality Agreement. ICM purchases two authorized COES.p3
- June 2005: Westfalia is still "developing" COES technology while ICM is finally installing the two COES bought from the Inventors the year before
- 2005 The Inventors invited Ethanol manufacturers to symposium to hear about COES – 30% attended.(SkunK's idea on which one)
- 5 May 2005 Clean Tech filed first COES Non-Provisional Patent Application “859”
- 23 Feb 2006 '858 patent publication date.
- 23 Feb 2006 '729 publication date
- 6 May 2009 GERS receives Notice of Allowance for first Patents
- U.S. Patent 7,601,858 issued 13 Oct 2009
- U.S. Patent 7,608,729 issued 27 Oct 2009
- 16 Feb 2010 Notice Of Allowance Issued For Third GreenShift Corn Oil Extraction Patent
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CHAIRMAN of the GERS BOARD
Mr Kevin Kreisler maintains his GERS stock through his holding company: Viridis Capital, LLC. Mr. Kreisler is a graduate of Rutgers University College of Engineering (B.S., Civil and Environmental Engineering, 1994), Rutgers University Graduate School of Management (M.B.A., 1995), and Rutgers University School of Law (J.D., 1997). Served as the Company’s vice president from 1998 to 2000, president from 2000 to 2002, chief executive officer from 2002 to 2005 and has served as the Company’s chairman from 2005 to the present. Admitted to practice law in New Jersey and the United States District Court for the District of New Jersey. Kevin Kreisler is the sole owner of Viridis Capital LLC; GreenSpace Capital, LLC; Incandent Capital, L.L.C. Mr. Kevin Kreisler is about 37 years old.
"Roots" of Greenshift
- Greenshift Corp - until present
- GS Clean Tech Corp - until 2-2008 - 1-50 Reverse Split 12Dec2007
- VERIDIUM CORP until 7-2006
- KBF Pollution Management Inc from 3-1996 until 10-2003 - 1-20 Reverse Split 21Oct03
- KBF Pollution Control Inc 1984-1996
- Kreisler Bags - then - Kreisler Bags and Filtration 1979-1984 (hence "KBF" above)
Technicians and Magicians Behind the Curtain
David Fred Cantrell - Graduate of the University of Georgia where he received a Masters Degree in Poultry Science and Statistics. Co-inventor of COE technology with Dave Winsness. Started: Cantrell Winsness Technologies LLC. Next: CEO of Mean Green Biodiesel. Works out of One Penn Plaza, NY?
Dan Lester - Project Manager, GS CleanTech. Past: Warnecke Design Engineer 2004-2007; Imagetech Inc. Engineer 2001-2004. Education: Devry University EET, Electronics Engineering, 1998 — 2001
Patrick Bush - GreenShift’s Vice President of Biodiesel Technology
Dan Page - Attended 2008 Ethanol Conference for Greenshift Corp from Alpharetta, GA.
Dan Saltzman - Controller Greenshift Corporation
Past: 2001 — 2004 Assistant Controller, New York Mortgage;
1989 — 2000 Assistant Vice President Financial Reporting, Scudder; 1984 — 1997 Bucknell University
Jacqueline Flynn - Controller of GreenShift Corporation since 2006. She is the Chief Financial Officer (CFO) and Chief Accounting Officer for ESYM/ADRN. She is also the CFO for CICS. She has twenty years experience in financial accounting for both public and private companies.
Mary J. Carroll - Worked in GreenShift Administration since at least December of 2003. Presently GreenShift Vice President of Administration.
John W. Davis - John "Whit" Davis, has a B.S. in Civil Engineering from the U.S. Coast Guard Academy and an M.B.A from Boston University. GS CleanTech's new Vice President of Operations (as of PR 22 Jan '07), has a broad base of diversified management, engineering, operational and business development experience. Mr. Davis led the deployment of GS CleanTech's existing Corn Oil Extraction System installations at Little Sioux Corn Processors and Glacial Lakes Energy. Most recently in his career, Mr. Davis was the technical director for special projects at Vortex Dehydration Technology, where he led product design, development and implementation for many applications of the technologies underlying GS CleanTech's Tornado Generator[TM]. Mr. Davis holds the rank of Lt. Commander as a reservist with the U.S. Coast Guard. (One of four original COES Inventors.)
Dan Lester - Project Manager, GS CleanTech. Past: Warnecke Design Engineer 2004-2007; Imagetech Inc. Engineer 2001-2004. Education: Devry University EET, Electronics Engineering, 1998 — 2001
Patrick Bush - GreenShift’s Vice President of Biodiesel Technology
Dan Page - Attended 2008 Ethanol Conference for Greenshift Corp from Alpharetta, GA.
Dan Saltzman - Controller Greenshift Corporation
Past: 2001 — 2004 Assistant Controller, New York Mortgage;
1989 — 2000 Assistant Vice President Financial Reporting, Scudder; 1984 — 1997 Bucknell University
Jacqueline Flynn - Controller of GreenShift Corporation since 2006. She is the Chief Financial Officer (CFO) and Chief Accounting Officer for ESYM/ADRN. She is also the CFO for CICS. She has twenty years experience in financial accounting for both public and private companies.
Mary J. Carroll - Worked in GreenShift Administration since at least December of 2003. Presently GreenShift Vice President of Administration.
John W. Davis - John "Whit" Davis, has a B.S. in Civil Engineering from the U.S. Coast Guard Academy and an M.B.A from Boston University. GS CleanTech's new Vice President of Operations (as of PR 22 Jan '07), has a broad base of diversified management, engineering, operational and business development experience. Mr. Davis led the deployment of GS CleanTech's existing Corn Oil Extraction System installations at Little Sioux Corn Processors and Glacial Lakes Energy. Most recently in his career, Mr. Davis was the technical director for special projects at Vortex Dehydration Technology, where he led product design, development and implementation for many applications of the technologies underlying GS CleanTech's Tornado Generator[TM]. Mr. Davis holds the rank of Lt. Commander as a reservist with the U.S. Coast Guard. (One of four original COES Inventors.)
Christopher Kennedy
Project Manager, 2006-08 Greenshift Ethanol Conf Attendee, Alparetta, GA - About 28 years old
Public History of the Keisler Family
The lovely Mrs. Rachael Kreisler
Rachael is a 1994 Graduate of Lakeside, a private Prep school in Seattle, WA. Rachael is a graduate of The University of the South, with a cum laude bachelor's degree in biological psychology and minors in fine arts and philosophy. One time IBM site designer, worked on Macy's e-commerce site and the redesign of the NYSE site. Founder of Kissykat and Candent Corp. As of March 31, 2008, the Company (GERS) owed Candent Corporation $757,853 (the "Candent Note"). The former president of Candent is the wife of the Company's chairman. All of the issued and outstanding capital stock held by Candent is in trust for the benefit of its former president. The note payable to Candent shall bear interest at a rate of 10% per year and matures November 8, 2010. (P. 21 1st Quarter)
Kreisler Family Involved in GERS
Lawrence M. Kreisler - Lawrence is the sole owner of Serenity Capital, LLC. Built Kreisler Bags, then Kreisler Bags and Filters, then KBF Pollution Control Inc., then KBF Pollution Management Inc. After 1-20 R/S Sept2003 company was taken over by Veridium Corp in Oct2003, controlled by son Kevin. Resigned, effective December 31, 2003, as an officer and director of Veridium Corporation. Continued to work at Veridium's Paterson, New Jersey based recycling facility, that was designed on recycling technologies he invented. His employment was terminated in July 2004 due to irreconcilable philosophical differences in how to best operate and grow that facility. Bronze Parachute included: 100 percent of his salary of $150,000 through December 31, 2004 and 50 percent of his salary through December 31, 2006. Medical benefits until the age of 65. Lawrence is about 61 years old.
Scott Kreisler - Scott is the sole owner of Cyrus Capital, LLC. Brother of Kevin Kreisler, listed as a Beneficial Owner of Veridium Corporation on 4/2/2002 SEC filings. The 2005 annual report also says: "During 2005, Scott Kreisler, brother of Kevin Kreisler, received salaries of $72,700. Scott Kreisler no longer works for the Company." In February 2006, Cyrus Capital, LLC, purchased from GCS Investments $500,000 in convertible debt issuedby GS Clean Tech. During the period ended March 31, 2006, Cyrus effected conversions totaling $280,000, corresponding to 14,000,000 shares of the Company's common stock. During the second quarter 2006 Cyrus effected additional conversions totaling $120,000 into a total of 6,000,000 shares of the Company's common stock.
Kathi A. Kreisler From a 3/30/2001 filing: Kathi Kreisler is a Co-founder of VERIDIUM CORPORATION and served as its President from 1984 through December 1994. She has been a director since March 1984. In January 1995, Ms. Kreisler became vice president, secretary and treasurer of Veridium Corporation. From 1979 to 1984, Ms. Kreisler was a principal in Kreisler Bags and Filtration, Inc., which name was subsequently changed to KBF Pollution Management, Inc. Ms. Kreisler is the wife of Lawrence Kreisler and is the mother of Kevin and Scott Kreisler. During 2005, Kathi Kreisler received salaries of $33,750. During December of 2005, Kathi Kreisler received 3,806,811 shares of the Company's common stock as a settlement of all severance liabilities.
MIF During the first quarter 2008, Minority Interest Fund (II), LLC ("MIF") acquired the Kerns $1,000,000 Debenture. In February 2008, MIF subsequently fully converted this debenture at the rate of $0.16 per share into 6,875,000 shares of Company common stock. The managing member of MIF is a relative of Kevin Kreisler. (p. 23 1st Qtr Rpt)
Scott Kreisler - Scott is the sole owner of Cyrus Capital, LLC. Brother of Kevin Kreisler, listed as a Beneficial Owner of Veridium Corporation on 4/2/2002 SEC filings. The 2005 annual report also says: "During 2005, Scott Kreisler, brother of Kevin Kreisler, received salaries of $72,700. Scott Kreisler no longer works for the Company." In February 2006, Cyrus Capital, LLC, purchased from GCS Investments $500,000 in convertible debt issuedby GS Clean Tech. During the period ended March 31, 2006, Cyrus effected conversions totaling $280,000, corresponding to 14,000,000 shares of the Company's common stock. During the second quarter 2006 Cyrus effected additional conversions totaling $120,000 into a total of 6,000,000 shares of the Company's common stock.
Kathi A. Kreisler From a 3/30/2001 filing: Kathi Kreisler is a Co-founder of VERIDIUM CORPORATION and served as its President from 1984 through December 1994. She has been a director since March 1984. In January 1995, Ms. Kreisler became vice president, secretary and treasurer of Veridium Corporation. From 1979 to 1984, Ms. Kreisler was a principal in Kreisler Bags and Filtration, Inc., which name was subsequently changed to KBF Pollution Management, Inc. Ms. Kreisler is the wife of Lawrence Kreisler and is the mother of Kevin and Scott Kreisler. During 2005, Kathi Kreisler received salaries of $33,750. During December of 2005, Kathi Kreisler received 3,806,811 shares of the Company's common stock as a settlement of all severance liabilities.
MIF During the first quarter 2008, Minority Interest Fund (II), LLC ("MIF") acquired the Kerns $1,000,000 Debenture. In February 2008, MIF subsequently fully converted this debenture at the rate of $0.16 per share into 6,875,000 shares of Company common stock. The managing member of MIF is a relative of Kevin Kreisler. (p. 23 1st Qtr Rpt)
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Capitalism
"This system is not bad, it is just how things have worked in every functional society since time began. Someone provides a good or service in exchange for receiving a good or service. Money just facilitates making change and keeping score."
Socialism
"A system where more goods and services are provided to those who provide less goods and services." Leads to less goods and services.
Communism
"Where the link to producing goods and services and receiving goods and services is severed. Outdated, shabby or no production follows. Leads in time to a robust Free Enterprise system - starting with a black market."
"This system is not bad, it is just how things have worked in every functional society since time began. Someone provides a good or service in exchange for receiving a good or service. Money just facilitates making change and keeping score."
Socialism
"A system where more goods and services are provided to those who provide less goods and services." Leads to less goods and services.
Communism
"Where the link to producing goods and services and receiving goods and services is severed. Outdated, shabby or no production follows. Leads in time to a robust Free Enterprise system - starting with a black market."
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DISCLAIMER: The author is not a registered stockbroker nor a registered advisor and does not give investment advice. His comments are an expression of opinion only and should not be construed in any manner whatsoever as recommendations to buy or sell a stock, option, future, bond, commodity, index or any other financial instrument at any time. While he believes his statements to be true, they always depend on the reliability of his sources. The author recommends that you consult with a qualified investment advisor, one licensed by appropriate regulatory agencies in your legal jurisdiction, before making any investment decisions, and that you confirm the facts on your own before making important investment commitments.
Note: I am a shareholder - I do not work for, nor do I receive any direct or indirect payment from GERS or anyone associated with them. (But it would be Kapitalist Kool if I did) I will not intentionally mislead - but I can be wrong (ask Mrs. SkunK for specific frequencies) - so do your own due diligence - and take responsibility for your own financial decisions – (and your own life in general) good or bad. I do not give financial advice - I let you look at my dd as I try to make sense of it all and make MY decisions. Make your own! I have been rightfully accused of being a rather cheery, positive individual who laughs at every opportunity. These tendencies may cause me to overlook deficiencies in this stock that are painfully obvious to others. Celebrate today - and some good garage logic luck to ya.
SkunK
(Blogger formerly know as Skunk)
Disclaimer for those who need additional clarification. . .
My beliefs and the financial strategies discussed on this site are not to be used without proper financial analysis of your personal situation. Better yet, you do not have my permission to use them at all. I strongly suggest you seek help of a financial advisor or, even better, a Certified Financial Planner in order to assist you in any financial planning. I am not selling or advising you to buy any financial products. I am not selling or advising you to buy this stock or any other stock! I am just blogging about one of my favourite subjects! This is a hobby for me and should only be entertainment for you. You may analyse my opinions and determine if they suit you or not. I hope that your personal finance path to your goals will be covered with success and profit. Enjoy your reading.
Additional Disclaimer for the real knukleheads . . . .
Look, if your still reading this disclaimer and haven't figured out my name is SkunK and I don't know nothin' then you really need help. If you still want to blindly go out and do whatever some dude on the internet does then I can't help you. If you are not emotionally secure enough to suffer another's opinion - then turn the dang channel. Quickly seek a mental health professional! I am not one of them either!
Still do not understand? This is for the Lawyers (lol)
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SkunK's Public Library; Magazine Section
- June 2008 Bio-Diesel Mag - New Bio-Diesel method that can use corn oil
- Marion (3rd COE) site and COE/Biodiesel
- Dr. Bayless explains Algae process he sold to Greenshift
- Our Algae slime is 94% starch and 6% oil
- and the super "algae" comes from Yellowstone
- Biodiesel Nov 2006 - The Matchmaker
- Forbes Dan Fisher Article
- Distillers Grain Quarterly - 2007 1st Quarter - "COE Opens New Markets"
72 comments:
Maybe they are not concerned.
In it something is. Many thanks for an explanation, now I will know.
It is a pity, that now I can not express - it is compelled to leave. I will be released - I will necessarily express the opinion on this question.
You commit an error. Let's discuss. Write to me in PM.
In my opinion you are mistaken. I suggest it to discuss. Write to me in PM, we will talk.
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I thought Yoda was dead.
It is not GRREEEEENNN!!
It is not REEEDDDDDDD!!
It is still what it is.
ur rash is not red????????
Actually.......It IS Green.
And.....you are still what you are,
ahooooooooooooooole!
price cracked again....6 years of pain!...it only goes down!...it never goes up!...it is paper pushing time all the time!
Best move UP all week! Boy, the naysayers really come out of the woodwork around here, even when the pps starts to rebound!
Are you serious, it is still 25% below a penny! Petal, was that you painting the close so you would have a nice weekend?
No, it wasn't! Was that you selling 250 shares at the close the other day to bring the price down?
You're just disapointed the PPS stopped dropping. In case you didn't notice, the price was climbing the last half hour.
I have never sold a share of GERS.
Maybe they think, like most in the industry and outside of the industry, that DW & company show's coming to the end.
Oh, and by the way genious, .0079 isn't 25%. The form T doesn't count as the LAST price of the day.
Concerning "I have never sold a share of GERS", don't you have to OWN shares before you can sell some?
Your hysteria is certainly misdirected.
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hahha petal > n0b0dy
petal is so much smarter than dec 78 nobody its nto even funny hahahahaahha
The SOLUTION to DILUTION is POLLUTION. Why are there one L in solution and dilution and two Ls in pollution?
Maybe they're scared to talk about it?
Maybe elephants can fly? Too much mystery here to be stuck on maybes.
nobody12378 said...
Maybe they are not concerned.
March 8, 2013 at 10:48 AM
sell after all these years, just before the big 10k. wah, wah, wah!
only ~3 weeks to go.
buy-buy.
Why would they want to mention this?
All of the following defendants in GreenShift’s current litigation argued that GreenShift’s patents are limited to the recovery of at least 95% of the oil present in the concentrated thin stillage feed stream, and that they are consequently not infringing on GreenShift’s patents because they are recovering less than 95% of the oil present in their concentrated thin stillage feed streams: (1) Ace Ethanol; (2) Al-Corn Clean Fuel; (3) Blue Flint Ethanol; (4) Bushmills Ethanol; (5) Chippewa Valley Ethanol; (6) Heartland Corn Products; (7) Lincolnway Energy; (8) United Wisconsin Grain Producers; (9) Iroquois Bio-Energy Company; (10) Cardinal Ethanol; (11) ICM; (12) Big River Resources West Burlington; (13) Adkins Energy; (14) Big River Resources Galva; (15) Lincolnland Agri-Energy and (16) David Vander Griend.
The Court disagreed with the defendants’ arguments, and issued a Supplemental Claim Construction Order clarifying that the patents do not require recovery of any particular percentage of oil present in the syrup feed stream.
Significantly, the Court ruled that most of GreenShift’s patent claims cover mechanical processing to recover a product that is largely or mostly oil, and that they are not limited by the amount of oil that is not recovered from the concentrated thin stillage stream.
“We are very pleased with the Court’s ruling,” said David Winsness, GreenShift’s Chief Technology Officer and co-inventor of its patented corn oil extraction technologies. “We have looked at the so-called advanced oil, oil plus, COSS and such other attempts to work around our patents. We are highly confident, and even more so with this latest ruling, that all such attempts plainly infringe our patents.”
Winsness continued: “Ethanol managers, board members, owners, lenders and other stakeholders that have adopted ‘wait-and-see’ infringement strategies are encouraged to pay careful attention to these events. Licensed producers receive a significant competitive advantage that we have pledged to vigorously defend. We will continue to do so and now look forward to expanding our efforts in the coming months.”
A copy of the Court’s January 29, 2013 ruling is available online at www.greenshift.com.
GreenS
and now look forward to expanding our efforts in the coming months.”
Hopes do spring eternal.
No one mentioned reading the Big River Article. Maybe it is because it comes out as a PFD Doc, but sideways? I tried laying down, but kept going to sleep. DHOLE
They Redacted the only meaningful statements in the whole Article!! No wonder no comments!! A nothingburger. Could have been written by Nobody about the weather! Meanwhile, Drudge blames the Weather on the Sun Activety!! He'll get flack on that from the Whitehouse! Tax Audit Time!! DHOLE
Nobody: I tend to agree with you regarding the long road ahead for this company. But when you say you have never sold a share of GERS I simply cannot believe it. Because based on your own predictions there would be no possible way that this stock doesn't undergo at least 1 more RS. So what gives?
I am a high stakes gambler, I am not interested in $10,000 here or $8,000 there -- no interest at all. The only thing that would truly disappoint me would be a surprise, a lightening strike, if you will, such as a new license with a major actor like Valero, or a real settlement. Each of these would propel the PPS quickly since that revenue/cash would allow pay-off of the debts, thus eliminating the need for dilution. This result would also place a great deal more pressure on the defendants. Is this likely -- NO!! But I would kick myself forever if I ever, I mean ever, had to chase it.
The big pay-off, court adjudicated award and penalties, after all appeals are completed is truly a long way off and not worth discussing.
(I do trade other stocks; and have done OK. I do not post on other stock boards any longer they are too droll, I-Hub and the Skunk blog are a blast for me. My biggest stock poker pot was with GNBT seven years ago -- I knew that the avian flu scare was coming -- no bluffing on that one. These resources have funded this gambit).
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Valero is just another alias, like Nobody! CITGO got really unpopular when customers found out it was HUGO CHAVEZ undercover leases. HUGO is dead. Really Dead! I wouldn't be puffing up Valero too much. I think their days are numbered, and few. DHOLE
petal > nobody
dhole > nobody
Is that because Valero's stock price is up 36% this year and GERS is down 60%? I now understand your philosophy on buying stock.
DHOLE go away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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New low this week? What could keep this from occurring?
The impending pump and dump?
Lightening?
EIA: Simple Ethanol Plants vulnerable
Mon Mar 11, 2013 08:39 AM CDT
STREATOR, Ill. (DTN) -- Beginning last summer, the prices of ethanol and corn reached levels where production costs at relatively simple ethanol plants exceeded revenue, causing ethanol plants to shut down production, according to a report posted Monday, March 11, by the Energy Information Administration.
These simple plants, which are not able to recover corn oil, make up a diminishing portion of the ethanol industry, EIA said. Reacting to the market conditions, by January, the number of idled ethanol plants had grown to at least 20.
Relatively simple ethanol plants produce ethanol and distillers grains or DDGs from corn. More advanced plants are able to recover other products, like extracting corn oil from DDGs. Ethanol plants with corn oil recovery units are able to earn more revenue, so they usually have higher profit margins than plants without corn oil recovery, even if their production costs are slightly higher.
Over the past few years, margins at plants with corn oil recovery have been 15 cents to 20 cents per gallon higher than at plants without it, meaning their margins have remained positive while margins at plants without corn oil recovery were negative. Each time margins at the simple plants turned negative, several of these less sophisticated plants announced shutdowns, including plants in Nebraska, Illinois, and Minnesota.
Profit margins also affect ethanol production, prices, and consumption. Following the first set of plant shutdowns, a rise in margins resulted in more domestic ethanol production, which helped reduce prices and resulted in higher ethanol consumption through July 2012. Then, at the beginning of August, a drop in margins led to lower production, reducing ethanol stocks to their lowest level since December 2011. This pattern illustrates how sudden changes in supply (e.g., shutdowns) can lead to short-term market volatility.
During plant shutdowns some companies have embarked on new capital projects to recover corn oil, while others are performing routine maintenance and looking for opportunities to buy corn economically. Two plants, POET Biorefining in Macon, Mo., and Abengoa in Madison, Ill., may add corn oil recovery units in 2013. Others, such as an ADM facility in Walhala, N.D., could shut down permanently.
Corn oil recovery is one of several strategies that the ethanol industry is developing to improve margins. Others involve switching to processes that are more advantageous under the Renewable Fuel Standard. For instance, Aemetis in Keyes, Calif., is changing its feedstock from corn to sorghum and replacing its natural gas consumption with biomass.
Other companies plan to produce butanol rather than ethanol, or integrate cellulosic feedstock, such as wood waste or corn stover -- meaning leaves, stalks, and leftover cobs after the corn harvest. These approaches allow their products to qualify as advanced biofuels under the RFS, a category that specifically excludes ethanol produced from corn starch, which has been the dominant feedstock for the U.S. ethanol industry.
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PPS rising, smallballs 12378 negative comments intensify. Free falling, "watch out above"!
Petal?
Come out form behind the curtain -- it is unbecoming for an adult.
FuzzyBalls comments on Adultry. (As if) DHOLE
Smallballs lashing out now. Can't stand to watch the PPS rise!
No comment smallballs? Can't stand it when the pps goes up?
One step forward, two steps back. This only has value to breaking any downward trend if it persists for a while. We have seen several hiccups in the past that appear as if a new (non downward trend) had been established only to be disappointed. I am not emotionally invested, forget invested -- conjugally dependent is a better term -- on any direction the PPS moves. Commentary is not the same as the investment most of the small minds, with no apparent life outside of GERS, appear to have.
Nice try smallballs! Does ICM still pay you when your bashing doesn't work?
I will be paid handsomely someday -- by Greenshift.
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GO GERS!!!!!!!
nobody learn how to trade sucker
told u to buy low sell high moron
Looks like you can cash in a few hundred bucks now -- so have your fun.
dont be jealous kid learn to trade and u can big tyme it too. i was a sucker like you b4 now the only sucker is your wife
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lol nobody dec 78 is bid whacking 100 shrares HAHAHHA idiot
Chromatin and Calgren Renewable Fuels Sign Multi-Year Alliance for Locally-Grown Sorghum for Ethanol Production
CHICAGO--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Chromatin, Inc., a leading provider of innovative crop breeding technology, sorghum seed products and feedstocks, and Calgren Renewable Fuels, a leading ethanol producer located in Pixley, CA, announced today an alliance to develop a local supply chain for sorghum for the production of fuel ethanol and distiller’s grains. The multi-year agreement covers up to 30,000 acres of sorghum grain to be grown and supplied to Calgren, which produces over 55 million gallons of ethanol annually.
“We are delighted to be working with Calgren Renewable Fuels – which has been continuously involved with ethanol production since 2009 – in our commitment to expand the use of locally-grown sorghum crops in California for the production of energy-efficient biofuels”
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“We are delighted to be working with Calgren Renewable Fuels – which has been continuously involved with ethanol production since 2009 – in our commitment to expand the use of locally-grown sorghum crops in California for the production of energy-efficient biofuels,” Chromatin Chief Executive Officer Daphne Preuss said. “Growers located near the Calgren facility recognize the benefits of growing a water-efficient crop like sorghum, and we are pleased that our products provide an affordable alternative to corn that can be used in ethanol production.”
“In areas of the Central Valley with water constraints and higher alkalinity soil sorghum looks like an especially good choice. In addition, preliminary tests suggest the protein level of our distiller’s grains may improve a bit,” said Lyle Schlyer, Calgren’s President. “We like the prospect of giving local farmers and dairies better options.”
Chromatin is working with California growers who are attracted to sorghum’s water efficiency and tolerance to heat, as well as the cost benefits that come from reduced fertilizer use. In addition, the residue left over from the harvest of sorghum grain can be used as high quality animal feed, or as a feedstock for biogas or cellulosic biofuel production.
Ethanol plants in California have been seeking alternative crops to corn to reduce feedstock costs, to improve their carbon footprint and to source feedstock from locally grown energy-efficient crops. The EPA recently identified conditions in which sorghum, as an energy efficient feedstock, can qualify for the financial incentives related to producing Advanced Biofuel.
About Calgren Renewable Fuels
Calgren operates the longest running fuel ethanol plant in California, continuously supplying ethanol, distiller’s grains, and corn oil to areas in and around Bakersfield and Fresno, CA since 2009. With its unique, energy-efficient process, its fuel ethanol has one of the lowest carbon footprints in the country.
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20130225005309/en/Chromatin-Calgren-Renewable-Fuels-Sign-Multi-Year-Alliance
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GERS patents are solid and not limited to corn. Regardless of the type of feedstock, the method remains the same. Mechanical extraction of oil from concentrated stillage. Here's a quote from one of the patents...(last paragraph)
"Moreover, besides corn, the present invention may have utility with any other grain used in a dry milling process for producing ethanol, such as for example, milo."
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=2&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=winsness.INNM.&OS=IN/winsness&RS=IN/winsness
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Bunch of smack talking fools, you guys are very entertaining ha ha!I don't know much about the market but I started buying GERS about 2 years ago...I saw it on the OTC board on top of the vol activity chart everyday for a couple of weeks. I figured that had to mean something & research brought me to this page. Thanks for all the valuable info I will continue to hold on to what Ive got & buy when gets down Looooooooo like right now :-) thanks again GOOOO GREEEEEN!
Yes Skunk, it's interesting Big River left out the latest ruling that interpreted the patents in a way proving the unlicensed Tricanter and unlicensed AOS users are infringing. This is material information their investors have a right to know about.
Their argument that the stream needed to be 95% oil free failed and fell flat on it's face. What an embarrassing letter that would've been, had they been upfront with their investors.
But what really can they tell them? We were wrong and owe 10's of millions in damages for back royaltys? A summary judgement and injunction is likely?
Did Big River forget to mention the "lawsuit" ICM filed against GERS was dismissed? They have the right to know this material information. It sounds like corn oil information from here on out will be a sore subject and not so much something they want to brag about anymore.
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Slash - wht is your guess on the timing of any injunctions or or other substative moves by the courts?
I am long and strong now that I have seen the light!!!
It's not so easy to see the light when Nobody tries to block the sun with his Big Ass!
It's not so easy to see the light when Nobody tries to block the sun with his Big Ass!
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Ha ha......smallballs caught lying again on ihub and tried to totally change the subject like he always does and make the person responding feel like an idiot! No wonder the FBI (Fuzzy Ball Investigators) don't believe him!
How did Nobody respond to a recent accusation about working for ICM? In his own words.....
"I will be paid handsomely"
This is the same, out of context, method he uses to twist others words into his own self-serving lies.
The hurt feelings here are busting out all over.
Hurt feelings vs keeping someone honest? Hardly. Why don't you prove freedom wrong by jumping into the grinder and see if you produce any oil?
hahahaha^
Still the sub-penny silence around here. Just the annoying din of nobody and the cretins exchanging sophomoric barbs.
Two Rising Biofuels Trends: Corn Oil Biodiesel and Sorghum Ethanol
http://www.bigpictureagriculture.com/2013/03/two-rising-biofuels-trends-corn-oil-biodiesel-and-sorghum-ethanol-337.html
i call it: flippin boogers at each other. bwtf
Blogger nobody12378 said...
The hurt feelings here are busting out all over.
all over your wife...
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